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Just watched ITV Granada News and they just interviewed a bloke who knew the family of the chap in Texas. He questioned how the ‘authorities’ allowed his passage to USA bearing in mind he has a conviction (didn’t elaborate). 
What’s the betting the Govt. Agencies; MI5, MI6, Border Force, etc., will all be blamed before the Mosque, the family, the ideologies?

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5 hours ago, MickyD said:

Just watched ITV Granada News and they just interviewed a bloke who knew the family of the chap in Texas. He questioned how the ‘authorities’ allowed his passage to USA bearing in mind he has a conviction (didn’t elaborate). 
What’s the betting the Govt. Agencies; MI5, MI6, Border Force, etc., will all be blamed before the Mosque, the family, the ideologies?

Even money. It's always someone else's fault these days. Just ask anyone with a Liverpool postcode.

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The later news said he flew in to JFK and then on to Texas where he bought a gun. 

Now I may be being cynical here, and I know their gun laws aren’t up to much but flying from Manchester to Texas on 29th December and owning a gun by 15th January must have needed some help. Who the fuck bought the gun and why? (Rhetorical)

Also, why did he buy a return ticket for 2nd February? (Also rhetorical)

 

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20 minutes ago, MickyD said:

The later news said he flew in to JFK and then on to Texas where he bought a gun. 

Now I may be being cynical here, and I know their gun laws aren’t up to much but flying from Manchester to Texas on 29th December and owning a gun by 15th January must have needed some help. Who the fuck bought the gun and why? (Rhetorical)

Also, why did he buy a return ticket for 2nd February? (Also rhetorical)

 

Pretty sure in texas you can walk in to Walmart and buy a gun and ammo no questions asked.

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5 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Pretty sure in texas you can walk in to Walmart and buy a gun and ammo no questions asked.

Apparently not.

If not a US citizen or permanent resident, then generally, no. There are exceptions, all pretty rare, for example temporary residents who have a hunting license. But a tourist is not even a temporary resident, does not have a proper visa for residency, so cannot buy a gun.

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Just had a recording of his last phone call with his brother on news.

His brother was super-calm when asking him why he’s doing what he’s doing.

Too calm.

He fucking knows what was going on. 

 

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20 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Just had a recording of his last phone call with his brother on news.

His brother was super-calm when asking him why he’s doing what he’s doing.

Too calm.

He fucking knows what was going on. 

Because we all know how we'd react if we found out our sibling was carrying out a terrorist attack and we managed to contact them. I imagine most of us would be in shock.

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Does make you wonder how many 'potentials' are walking around at liberty in northern English towns. Hopefully the security forces keep tabs on most but incidents like this suggest that it is impossible to have it all covered.

Great result. No innocents injured, one less arsehole to worry about.

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13 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Does make you wonder how many 'potentials' are walking around at liberty in northern English towns. Hopefully the security forces keep tabs on most but incidents like this suggest that it is impossible to have it all covered.

Great result. No innocents injured, one less arsehole to worry about.

There will be thousands of them, and not just in Northern towns - the problem I suppose is what to do if somebody is a "potential" in reality you have to wait until they actually do something sadly, you can't just arrest people because the security forces "think" they have the potential to do something, otherwise they'd probably be arresting dozens and dozens of people each day......which would of course then cause further problems as we knows. We just don't have the resources to monitor everybody, and never will

There is no answer to this problem, that isn't very, very extreme......

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1 minute ago, Sweep said:

There will be thousands of them, and not just in Northern towns - the problem I suppose is what to do if somebody is a "potential" in reality you have to wait until they actually do something sadly, you can't just arrest people because the security forces "think" they have the potential to do something, otherwise they'd probably be arresting dozens and dozens of people each day......which would of course then cause further problems as we knows. We just don't have the resources to monitor everybody, and never will

There is no answer to this problem, that isn't very, very extreme......

But, apparently, the main threat is from extreme right wing groups

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