bolty58 Posted May 11 Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, Zico said: It's odd to me that someone would support the actions of Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah because they don't like the folk protesting against anti semitism. Quote
Zico Posted May 12 Posted May 12 1 hour ago, bolty58 said: No one supports the actions of hamas other than other extreme nut jobs Criticism of Israel isn't anti Semitism as much as they'd like you to think it is I suppose if you think all Muslims are the same you think all Jews are too Quote
bolty58 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, Zico said: No one supports the actions of hamas other than other extreme nut jobs Criticism of Israel isn't anti Semitism as much as they'd like you to think it is I suppose if you think all Muslims are the same you think all Jews are too Now you're just being ridiculous. Those (thousands of) sickening marchers in Khan's London with hang glider images on display chanting 'From the river to the sea' etc. are all extreme nut jobs are they? Green party banners, Socialist Worker banners and various Union banners all on display. Don't bother responding, I've reached a conclusion as I typed. Yes, they all are extreme nut jobs. Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, kent_white said: Are they though? I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw one. Probably about 25 years ago in Kent. I just think there's better things to cast your ire at. Anti-Semitic attacks being one of them. Are you on a wind up? Go to Manchester this weekend and you will likely see some, or just google Israel protests. There’s been 100s around the country. 5 hours ago, Zico said: It's odd to me that someone would support the actions of Israel because they don't like the folk protesting against the actions of Israel It’s odd to me that on many weekends 100s / 1000s will go cities and towns across the U.K. supporting terror groups on British soil. Edited May 12 by royal white Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 12 Posted May 12 7 hours ago, Zico said: It's odd to me that someone would support the actions of Israel because they don't like the folk protesting against the actions of Israel Very odd ‘I don’t like the pro Palestine marches so I’m going to support Israel’s terror campaign’ It’s like condoning two things isn’t possible Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 hours ago, royal white said: It’s odd to me that on many weekends 100s / 1000s will go cities and towns across the U.K. supporting terror groups on British soil. Showing support for Palestine/protesting against Israel isn’t supporting terrorism some conclusion you’ve reached here Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 16 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Showing support for Palestine/protesting against Israel isn’t supporting terrorism some conclusion you’ve reached here A correct conclusion unless the government and police are wrong and London is right (you’re not) Quote
Bertie Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 20 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Showing support for Palestine/protesting against Israel isn’t supporting terrorism some conclusion you’ve reached here Spot on. But we end up here every single time. Some folk on here (well, just two), can’t seem to fathom out that it’s possible to criticise the actions of Israel without being pro-Hamas. It’s almost as though they’re in denial that the Israelis ever do anything wrong…. Edited May 12 by Bertie Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 5 minutes ago, Bertie said: Spot on. But we end up here every single time. Some folk on here (well, just two), can’t seem to fathom out that it’s possible to criticise the actions of Israel without being pro-Hamas. It’s almost as though they’re in denial that the Israelis ever do anything wrong…. Are you saying none of those demonstrating across the U.K. are in support of a terror organisation. Quote
boltonboris Posted May 12 Posted May 12 7 minutes ago, royal white said: Are you saying none of those demonstrating across the U.K. are in support of a terror organisation. A tiny few may be. But flying a flag in support of the people of Palestine is NOT pro-hamas Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, boltonboris said: A tiny few may be. But flying a flag in support of the people of Palestine is NOT pro-hamas Around 3-4k have been arrested for supporting a terror organisation 👍 Edited May 12 by royal white Quote
Bertie Posted May 12 Posted May 12 9 minutes ago, royal white said: Are you saying none of those demonstrating across the U.K. are in support of a terror organisation. Nope. Not saying that at all. There’s evil on both sides of this particular conflict - I don’t understand why a few folks can’t see that and call it out. But that’s the way it always is. Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, Bertie said: Nope. Not saying that at all. There’s evil on both sides of this particular conflict - I don’t understand why a few folks can’t see that and call it out. But that’s the way it always is. I agree there’s bad on both sides. This has all come from “the world does nothing” comment. The majority of the world clearly aren’t to bothered Quote
Bertie Posted May 12 Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, royal white said: I agree there’s bad on both sides. This has all come from “the world does nothing” comment. The majority of the world clearly aren’t to bothered Yep….I guess they aren’t which itself is a sad state of affairs. Too many unnecessary fires burning around the world…..largely due to wars and economic crises, most of which dare I say have been self-induced by corrupt, self-serving politicians. Quote
kent_white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 3 hours ago, royal white said: Are you on a wind up? Go to Manchester this weekend and you will likely see some, or just google Israel protests. There’s been 100s around the country. Which proves the point I'm trying to make. You have to go out of your way to see one of these people you're talking about and get angry about them. I go to Manchester all the time - and hand on heart - I've not seen any demos or people protesting. It seems to me like you follow a load of people on Twitter who give oxygen to the type of people who get on your nerves. Which seems bad for your anxiety levels. Quote
kent_white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: Which proves the point I'm trying to make. You have to go out of your way to see one of these people you're talking about and get angry about them. I go to Manchester all the time - and hand on heart - I've not seen any demos or people protesting. It seems to me like you follow a load of people on Twitter who give oxygen to the type of people who get on your nerves. Which seems bad for your anxiety levels. Sorry - this post was supposed to more lighthearted than it reads 😁 Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: Which proves the point I'm trying to make. You have to go out of your way to see one of these people you're talking about and get angry about them. I go to Manchester all the time - and hand on heart - I've not seen any demos or people protesting. It seems to me like you follow a load of people on Twitter who give oxygen to the type of people who get on your nerves. Which seems bad for your anxiety levels. Going off that logic then I’ve seen no evidence of kids killed in Gaza so it ain’t happening. 3-4k folk have been arrested in 12 months, that’s a lot of people. You don’t have to go out of your way, you can watch the news it’s regularly shown on there. It doesn’t have to be Twitter either literally any social media platform. Quote
Zico Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 hours ago, royal white said: Are you on a wind up? Go to Manchester this weekend and you will likely see some, or just google Israel protests. There’s been 100s around the country. It’s odd to me that on many weekends 100s / 1000s will go cities and towns across the U.K. supporting terror groups on British soil. Aye, I agree, it doesn't make me want to support Israel though Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 17 minutes ago, Zico said: Aye, I agree, it doesn't make me want to support Israel though Some may use it to support Isreal, others to distance themselves from Palestine, either way it’s not helping the cause. Quote
kent_white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 hours ago, royal white said: Going off that logic then I’ve seen no evidence of kids killed in Gaza so it ain’t happening. 3-4k folk have been arrested in 12 months, that’s a lot of people. You don’t have to go out of your way, you can watch the news it’s regularly shown on there. It doesn’t have to be Twitter either literally any social media platform. I've seen loads of evidence of kids being killed in Gaza. And I also don't consider some crackpot shouting slogans in Manchester and thousands of kids being killed, mained and mangled as being moral equivalents. Each to their own though. It's up to you what you choose to devote your energies to 👍 Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 14 minutes ago, kent_white said: I've seen loads of evidence of kids being killed in Gaza. And I also don't consider some crackpot shouting slogans in Manchester and thousands of kids being killed, mained and mangled as being moral equivalents. Each to their own though. It's up to you what you choose to devote your energies to 👍 But managed to miss all the evidence of protests down the road. Amazing. I’d say all kids being killed mangled and maimed are equals, it’s a shame many only focus on one lot. imagine being a British citizen and not being able to go to work because some pro Palestine clowns have smashed your shop up. Imagine being a Brit cop and being abused and spat at because of some PP clowns. Imagine a local councillor getting voted in and one of his main pushes for votes was about Palestine. Imagine having to have security outside your place of worship because some nutters want to kill you or burn your place of worship down. This is what’s happening to some Brits, so when someone says “whilst the world watches” surely you can understand why? People are sick of this Palestine bollocks let them all crack on with what they’ve been doing for years, nothing will change them. Quote
kent_white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 2 minutes ago, royal white said: But managed to miss all the evidence of protests down the road. Amazing. I’d say all kids being killed mangled and maimed are equals, it’s a shame many only focus on one lot. imagine being a British citizen and not being able to go to work because some pro Palestine clowns have smashed your shop up. Imagine being a Brit cop and being abused and spat at because of some PP clowns. Imagine a local councillor getting voted in and one of his main pushes for votes was about Palestine. Imagine having to have security outside your place of worship because some nutters want to kill you or burn your place of worship down. This is what’s happening to some Brits, so when someone says “whilst the world watches” surely you can understand why? People are sick of this Palestine bollocks let them all crack on with what they’ve been doing for years, nothing will change them. You're amazed that I don't know about some protests or other going on down the road? You give me more credit than I'm due. I'm not omnipresent. And I'm not sick of this 'Palestine bollocks' - you are. I think people should continue to protest (within the boundaries of the law) until there's a change in the way Israel conducts itself. And the 'pink hairs' have got a right to protest - just like Tommy Robinson has got a right to protest. Up to the point where they break the law - at which point they should be punished. Even if I think proscribing Palestine Action or whatever they're called as a terrorist group (which I imagine what most of the arrest are for) is over the top. And I agree with you. All kids being mangled and maimed are equals. I can only comment on the ones I hear about though. Again, I can't be everywhere at once. So just for the record - I am also against any kids being mained or mangled in any obscure conflicts I may not have heard about through my own ignorance/lack of pressure coverage. The Police are abused and spat at by lots of people sadly. People standing on a Palestine ticket is something they're free to do in a democracy. Just like they're free to stand on a ticket of 'sending the buggers back'. Agree with you on the places of worship. It's abhorrent. Quote
royal white Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 39 minutes ago, kent_white said: You're amazed that I don't know about some protests or other going on down the road? You give me more credit than I'm due. I'm not omnipresent. And I'm not sick of this 'Palestine bollocks' - you are. I think people should continue to protest (within the boundaries of the law) until there's a change in the way Israel conducts itself. And the 'pink hairs' have got a right to protest - just like Tommy Robinson has got a right to protest. Up to the point where they break the law - at which point they should be punished. Even if I think proscribing Palestine Action or whatever they're called as a terrorist group (which I imagine what most of the arrest are for) is over the top. And I agree with you. All kids being mangled and maimed are equals. I can only comment on the ones I hear about though. Again, I can't be everywhere at once. So just for the record - I am also against any kids being mained or mangled in any obscure conflicts I may not have heard about through my own ignorance/lack of pressure coverage. The Police are abused and spat at by lots of people sadly. People standing on a Palestine ticket is something they're free to do in a democracy. Just like they're free to stand on a ticket of 'sending the buggers back'. Agree with you on the places of worship. It's abhorrent. Thousands arrested in 12 months tells us both that many aren’t. You may not be sick of it, many are, which no doubt is one of the reasons the “world is just watching”. We have plenty of our own shit to deal with already, stupid protests over a conflict that will never end 1000s of miles away is the last thing needed over here. You need to delete some of those Thai lady boy apps off your phone and stick a couple of news ones on 😉 Edited May 12 by royal white Quote
London Wanderer Posted May 12 Posted May 12 8 hours ago, royal white said: A correct conclusion unless the government and police are wrong and London is right (you’re not) Nope attending a protest in support of Palestine doesn’t make you a terror supporter There have been extremist elements on the demos, but that doesn’t make everyone else a terror supporter Quote
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