Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

Just now, Ani said:

Tbf LW there are plenty of images within the marches of overtly anti Israel material too.

I agree the vast majority of people really want an end to so much killing but Hamas are (or were) still firing missiles with the intent of killing too. 

Without a doubt, and I'm not suggesting there aren't extremist elements on those protests either. My point was criticising Israel doesn't equate to defending Hamas. You can condone both, equally. And you can condone one without needing a follow up banner for the second. 

Our PM waved the flag of Israel after the massacres, which was an important touch. Does that mean he was defending Israel for all their previous atrocities'? Of course not. But people are applying that same logic to anyone with a Palestine flag. 

Yes Hamas broke the ceasefire but when you look at the whole history of this conflict do you think the 'blame' is equally balanced? 

30 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

And there we go again. Criticising Israel means your a terrorist sympathiser. Christ. 

I've said previously on this thread that the far left can be ignorant. But assuming that everyone with a Palestinian flag is defending Hamas is nonsense and shows no understand of the conflict. 

Hamas' dictatorship is deeply unpopular in Gaza, they were polling at around 27% and that's even with their own corrupted polls.

Id say large proportions of those protesting are just there for a boot off to support anything against the west in the name of Islam.

 

15 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Without a doubt, and I'm not suggesting there aren't extremist elements on those protests either. My point was criticising Israel doesn't equate to defending Hamas. You can condone both, equally. And you can condone one without needing a follow up banner for the second. 

Our PM waved the flag of Israel after the massacres, which was an important touch. Does that mean he was defending Israel for all their previous atrocities'? Of course not. But people are applying that same logic to anyone with a Palestine flag. 

Yes Hamas broke the ceasefire but when you look at the whole history of this conflict do you think the 'blame' is equally balanced? 

I do not know enough of the history to balance the blame. I am pretty sure there will be 'versions' of history that make the case either way.

You can condone equally is where I am at. But if you take the streets carrying a flag to show solidarity with Palestine alongside people who are carrying banners calling for the destruction of Israel you are can not claim it is a peace protest. 
 

The hate and division on both sides will drive this conflict and peoples need in modern society to have a 'side' and belittle and hate everything on the other 'side' rears its ugly head again. I get this for people who live in the region but Tarquin who is protesting because it is cool at Uni, less so. Equally people excusing Israel totally is just as wrong IMO. 

18 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Id say large proportions of those protesting are just there for a boot off to support anything against the west in the name of Islam.

 

Correct… pro trouble causers and we’ve folk defending them and supporting and defending them. Be same folk who thought BLM was a just cause.

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Correct… pro trouble causers and we’ve folk defending them and supporting and defending them. Be same folk who thought BLM was a just cause.

Wont get many followers of Islam on the next gay rights march

Do you reckon these rallies and marches about XY and Z are like funerals and weddings and there's just loads of shagging going on due to heightened emotions and people feeling really good about themselves ?

Might have missed a trick here.

 

10 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Do you reckon these rallies and marches about XY and Z are like funerals and weddings and there's just loads of shagging going on due to heightened emotions and people feeling really good about themselves ?

Might have missed a trick here.

 

Now this is the take we wanted

😁😁👏👏

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Id say large proportions of those protesting are just there for a boot off to support anything against the west in the name of Islam.

 

How’d you know that?

45 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Do you reckon these rallies and marches about XY and Z are like funerals and weddings and there's just loads of shagging going on due to heightened emotions and people feeling really good about themselves ?

Might have missed a trick here.

 

What funerals have you been going too. 

51 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Do you reckon these rallies and marches about XY and Z are like funerals and weddings and there's just loads of shagging going on due to heightened emotions and people feeling really good about themselves ?

Might have missed a trick here.

 

Bandwagons. This current one being one of the most popular. 

14 minutes ago, Nowack said:

What funerals have you been going too. 

Was thinking the same. Fair play to the lad. 

I'd say my funeral to shags ratio is roughly 12:1. 

If two hours after the wake still counts. 

Edited November 5, 20232 yr by London Wanderer

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Was thinking the same. Fair play to the lad. 

I'd say my funeral to shags ratio is roughly 12:1. 

If two hours after the wake still counts. 

It’s well known that death is an aphrodisiac 

Not in a Jimmy Savile way, he got a bit confused.

Still find it absolutely incredible that the next President after this guy was:

 

29 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

How’d you know that?

Its clear as day mate. Obviously you'd never accept it.

What the fuck have bus loads of muslims from Batley got to do with Palestine?

 

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s well known that death is an aphrodisiac 

Not in a Jimmy Savile way, he got a bit confused.

Big Zionist supporter was Jimmy. 

He was confused about a lot of things. The filthy prick. 
 

 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Its clear as day mate. Obviously you'd never accept it.

What the fuck have bus loads of muslims from Batley got to do with Palestine?

 

I'd say it isn't clear as day, that nothing about this is. I completely accept that some elements are anti-western and that there are some ignorant 'lefties' joining the cause. To say that they are a large proportion would be an overstatement. Most in attendance are completely harmless and peaceful.  

Muslims have often come together to protest against the occupation of Palestine. History tells you that they have valid reasons to, whether they are second/third generation British is irrelevant. 

29 arrested out of 1000s attending hardly shows they were all there for a 'boot off'. You would see similar numbers after a local derby but wouldn't start saying everyone at the game was gunning for a fight. 
 

Just now, London Wanderer said:

I'd say it isn't clear as day, that nothing about this is. I completely accept that some elements are anti-western and that there are some ignorant 'lefties' joining the cause. To say that they are a large proportion would be an overstatement. Most in attendance are completely harmless and peaceful.  

Muslims have often come together to protest against the occupation of Palestine. History tells you that they have valid reasons to, whether they are second/third generation British is irrelevant. 

29 arrested out of 1000s attending hardly shows they were all there for a 'boot off'. You would see similar numbers after a local derby but wouldn't start saying everyone at the game was gunning for a fight. 
 

Oh, come on

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I'd say it isn't clear as day, that nothing about this is. I completely accept that some elements are anti-western and that there are some ignorant 'lefties' joining the cause. To say that they are a large proportion would be an overstatement. Most in attendance are completely harmless and peaceful.  

Muslims have often come together to protest against the occupation of Palestine. History tells you that they have valid reasons to, whether they are second/third generation British is irrelevant. 

29 arrested out of 1000s attending hardly shows they were all there for a 'boot off'. You would see similar numbers after a local derby but wouldn't start saying everyone at the game was gunning for a fight. 
 

They wouldn’t be on a peace protest either 

Fucking bandwagon jumpers.

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Fucking bandwagon jumpers.

 

 

 

 

That’s in Israel……you know where the war is. 

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s in Israel……you know where the war is. 

Ah. So it's a "bandwagon" when it's something happening in a different country? We're getting there slowly. I'm sure we'll whittle down to your definition eventually. Or you could just tell us...

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Ah. So it's a "bandwagon" when it's something happening in a different country? We're getting there slowly. I'm sure we'll whittle down to your definition eventually. Or you could just tell us...

See them 1000s of clowns having sit down protests in London train stations because of a war 1000s of miles away. Bandwagon. I already explained it earlier, I know you sometimes find it difficult. 

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Oh, come on

Over 30,000 marched through London in the day. It was peaceful and had very little trouble. They were calling for a ceasefire. Most of the banners read things like 'end the occupation', 'ceasefire now' and 'free Palestine' etc etc. 

The majority of the trouble were isolated groups after the main event. In Trafalgar square Saturday night and Friday night at Kings Cross. 

Obviously social media is rife with the isolated incidents and certain papers will also focus on these. That doesn't detract that the vast majority of those in attendance were peaceful. Let's not create a problem where there isn't one. 

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

See them 1000s of clowns having sit down protests in London train stations because of a war 1000s of miles away. Bandwagon. I already explained it earlier, I know you sometimes find it difficult. 

Are these Bandwagon Jumpers?

 

 

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 We're getting there slowly. 

He still doesn't seem to have grasped that wars abroad have an impact on our lives. You'd have thought that the war in Ukraine and the rise in fuel prices might have made him realise....