Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why do you think the police and the FA get together to work on fixtures? 

to allow plod to plan resource and do their best to avoid disorder

their decision, not a racist home sec

forgetting for a moment whether govt should be banning protests, or pressurising the police to ban protests, do you really think the lawless elements planning to attend on saturday will just not turn up

naiive doesnt come close

19 minutes ago, Casino said:

to allow plod to plan resource and do their best to avoid disorder

their decision, not a racist home sec

forgetting for a moment whether govt should be banning protests, or pressurising the police to ban protests, do you really think the lawless elements planning to attend on saturday will just not turn up

naiive doesnt come close

So the police are working alongside someone. The FA. Who are the police working with this weekend to avoid disorder? 
 

I’m sure you’re aware political parties in the past have spoken out about how they want to tackle football violence…..isn’t that a job for the police? 
 

If those lawless elements just turn up on sat it will be a lot easier to police wouldnt you think (try to think) 

 

it obvious your hatred for certain party members is having a big influence on your opinion. 

50 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nah.

We can all see the level of hate being spouted at these marches, but it isn't permitted to describe it as such. Instead, it has to be blown into something bigger by the usuals. Acknowledge nothing of the bleeding obvious and look to shift focus and apportion blame elsewhere.

Always the case 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

How many? 

Millions attended football last weekend millions didn’t attend a March. If the millions who attended football acted like the protestors did there would have been a lot more arrests at the footy. Those attending the footy weren’t attending a peace rally/protest. 

The average arrest ratio per 100,000 attendees for football isn’t too dissimilar from the ratio at the weekends demos.

which is why made the comparison 

You can’t ban a demonstration because a minority of people act like idiots or you don’t like the day they’ve chose.

 The police can ask, which they’ve already done👍

22 minutes ago, royal white said:

So the police are working alongside someone. The FA. Who are the police working with this weekend to avoid disorder? 

The organisers of the march... although Suella is doing her best to stir things up and muddy the waters.

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

The average arrest ratio per 100,000 attendees for football isn’t too dissimilar from the ratio at the weekends demos.

which is why made the comparison 

You can’t ban a demonstration because a minority of people act like idiots or you don’t like the day they’ve chose.

 The police can ask, which they’ve already done👍

It’s a ridiculous comparison and you know it is. 
 

The police can ban a demo if they ask the Home Secretary. Who is the HS again? 

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The organisers of the march... although Suella is doing her best to stir things up and muddy the waters.

From one side Who are obviously going to say there’s going to be no trouble and it’s completely peaceful. 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

From one side Who are obviously going to say there’s going to be no trouble and it’s completely peaceful. 

That's how these things work, otherwise demonstrations/protests would be banned outright "in case someone causes trouble". To go back to the football analogy, do you think the FA tell the police "We promise there won't be any trouble"?

The Met has previously banned protests when they deemed there to be a sufficient risk of public order offences

It's difficult to believe their reluctance to do so in this instance is because they're satisfied that risk is insufficient

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

That's how these things work, otherwise demonstrations/protests would be banned outright "in case someone causes trouble". To go back to the football analogy, do you think the FA tell the police "We promise there won't be any trouble"?

No the police will probably tell the FA there will be trouble as they have the experience and intelligence. (Like they do in the situation we are discussing) They will then work on an alternative date/time.

That’s what comes under common sense. 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

No the police will probably tell the FA there will be trouble as they have the experience and intelligence. (Like they do in the situation we are discussing) They will then work on an alternative date/time.

That’s what comes under common sense. 

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The Met has previously banned protests when they deemed there to be a sufficient risk of public order offences

It's difficult to believe their reluctance to do so in this instance is because they're satisfied that risk is insufficient

 

In one. Additional risks this time because of the time of year.

 

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

No the police will probably tell the FA there will be trouble as they have the experience and intelligence. (Like they do in the situation we are discussing) They will then work on an alternative date/time.

That’s what comes under common sense. 

So as it stands, either the police don't think there will be much trouble at the march on Saturday, or there's some sort of conspiracy - otherwise they'd have already banned it.

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So as it stands, either the police don't think there will be much trouble at the march on Saturday, or there's some sort of conspiracy - otherwise they'd have already banned it.

Senior officers said they were concerned breakaway groups “intent on fuelling disorder” will commit crimes if the protest on 11 November goes ahead

 

 

Its the Blob, or the Wokeraity, or the metropolitan elites or something. Anyway, Braverman's work is done - she's whipped up another Them Vs Us pissing contest.

Look elsewhere - concern yourselves with this.

21 minutes ago, royal white said:

Senior officers said they were concerned breakaway groups “intent on fuelling disorder” will commit crimes if the protest on 11 November goes ahead

So why haven't they banned it?

Just now, Cheese said:

So why haven't they banned it?

You would have to ask them cheesey bollocks 

31 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So as it stands, either the police don't think there will be much trouble at the march on Saturday, or there's some sort of conspiracy - otherwise they'd have already banned it.

I wouldn't say conspiracy, more that there is also concern over what the reaction will be if it is banned.

A difficult balance for sure, but my concern is that should a level of unrest be reached, then reactionary unrest could spread throughout the country.

Time will tell.

1 hour ago, royal white said:

It’s a ridiculous comparison and you know it is. 

I think it’s a pretty fair comparison to be honest. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same.

If the police were concerned about breakaway groups at a footy match causing trouble, would they ban everyone from attending the match? 
 

The police have more powers since the latest bill, but they have to be careful with how they use them, so not to face legal battles down the line.

I’d be very surprised if they find enough reason to ban this one. Who knows though. 
 

4 hours ago, mickbrown said:

So if they are starting after 11 and going nowhere near the cenotaph and it’s not even the same day as the actual service, what’s the problem?

Policeing  i would think 

13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I think it’s a pretty fair comparison to be honest. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same.

If the police were concerned about breakaway groups at a footy match causing trouble, would they ban everyone from attending the match? 
 

The police have more powers since the latest bill, but they have to be careful with how they use them, so not to face legal battles down the line.

I’d be very surprised if they find enough reason to ban this one. Who knows though. 
 

Like they do for the old firm? 

Stop the muslamic Ray Guns. The kind of berk who represents the stop the march groups.

 

 

The inevitable reaction to apparent police inaction.

Hence the increased risk of civil unrest.

Put their march back by a week. Simple.

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The inevitable reaction to apparent police inaction.

Hence the increased risk of civil unrest.

Put their march back by a week. Simple.

"Civil unrest". Jesus wept. Who was it that mentioned drama queens earlier?

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The inevitable reaction to apparent police inaction.

Hence the increased risk of civil unrest.

Put their march back by a week. Simple.

it looks like you are suggesting you feel some fucking gammon are going to break the law

lock their doors, dont let them out of their homes

ever

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

it looks like you are suggesting you feel some fucking gammon are going to break the law

lock their doors, dont let them out of their homes

ever

Islamic type climbs the cenotaph plants the Palestinian flag… poor old gammon climbs up removes it…. Who gets nicked in todays London.