Meanwhile in Israel

[wanderer1984]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Haha

‘ I don’t know anything about the councils and I’m well out my depth, so I’ll say something about taxis then head to another thread and tell people how stupid they are on there” 😂

But but but, 10% 10% 10%
 

can you do it a fourth I wonder?

 You made our resident Muslim basher laugh though so I’ll give you that one

Muslim basher 😊

Where do you keep getting this 1%?

Who are Johnny and Dave?

Why can't you answer RW question on the facts you gave us?

If I make another thread, do I run it past you beforehand?

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

There is no IF about Labour being in power after the next election. 

Probably, but they're going to try what they can to create those significant points of difference. This current situation is creating difficulties for both.

[London Wanderer]

34 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Muslim basher 😊

 

“Rather be dead than have any more Muslims on my Island”

 Dear oh dear…. 😊

The facts were that we wouldn’t be a majority in 50 years 😂 10% was their tongue in cheek estimate 

 Re-read it 👍

Edited November 10, 2023 by London Wanderer

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Well, no you couldn't

People attending a pro-Palestinian march by definition become an activist and therefore assume a responsibility (however small) in a way Jews (or Palestinians) simply going about their lives in the UK don't

Pro-Palestinian marchers might prove unable to police their own movement but there should be an expectation to at least make an effort and too many, whether through outright malice, indifference, or ignorance, simply don't

For example, one of the organisers of Saturday's march is the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and on 7th October the PSC praised "the resistance" and organised a march for the following Monday whilst the terrorist atrocities were still taking place and yet there's no pushback

The problem with contextualising is it's possible to end up contextualising out reality - the blunt fact is a significant proportion really do mean it

Israeli government policies are about extremist as you can get & have been for many decades now.

 When Jews across the world held vigils for those brutally massacred you weren’t also asking them to condemn their own policies. And rightly so, why the fck would you.

But Muslims & other people march for peace & a ceasefire & they’re expected to police everyone there. Not their job 👍

 The majority are doing nothing wrong

[Jol_BWFC]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

Cat and pigeons.

Close your eyes and it could be Bolty.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

18 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Israeli government policies are about extremist as you can get & have been for many decades now.

 When Jews across the world held vigils for those brutally massacred you weren’t also asking them to condemn their own policies. And rightly so, why the fck would you.

But Muslims & other people march for peace & a ceasefire & they’re expected to police everyone there. Not their job 👍

 The majority are doing nothing wrong

You made no reference to Jews attending a vigil but simply Jews

It's not a matter oh having to condemn the policies of either the IDF or Hamas but distancing oneself from advocates of ethnic hatred

If there were people attending the vigils for the massacred Isrealis also calling for "intifada" or for the removal of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank - much less the actual organisers - and on a regular and consistent basis, it'd be legitimate to criticise attendees for not making efforts to police their own protest/vigil

[wanderer1984]

53 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

“Rather be dead than have any more Muslims on my Island”

 Dear oh dear…. 😊

The facts were that we wouldn’t be a majority in 50 years 😂 10% was their tongue in cheek estimate 

 Re-read it 👍

By 2050

Pickled again 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Close your eyes and it could be Bolty.

Wondered who would be the first!

 

[wanderer1984]

On 08/11/2023 at 22:47, London Wanderer said:

FactCheck wouldn’t bet on the British Muslim population ever topping 10 per cent, let alone 50 per cent.

You forgot to read the facts mate. Here they are again. The key word there being ‘ever’. 

The tounge in cheek facts! 👍🏻

[Casino]

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Well, well. Others have been castigated for this.

you'll need to be more clear before i decide if youre getting a whoosh

[Not in Crawley]

47 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Close your eyes and it could be Bolty.

Open your eyes and think, eee Bolty's looking a lot healthier these days.

[London Wanderer]

51 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

The tounge in cheek facts! 👍🏻

You said we’re all set to be under Muslim rule in 50 years and you would rather be dead than see any more of them in power.

 Now we’ve proven that’s a bollocks forecast (a percent each year 😂) 

Keeping rambling on about your 10% though 👍

 nice try lad  x

 

Edited November 10, 2023 by London Wanderer

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

By 2050

Pickled again 😂

You forgot to read the bit “wouldn’t bet” 😊

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

You made no reference to Jews attending a vigil but simply Jews

It's not a matter oh having to condemn the policies of either the IDF or Hamas but distancing oneself from advocates of ethnic hatred

If there were people attending the vigils for the massacred Isrealis also calling for "intifada" or for the removal of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank - much less the actual organisers - and on a regular and consistent basis, it'd be legitimate to criticise attendees for not making efforts to police their own protest/vigil

They don’t need to call for it. Because the Israeli government brutally removes people from their land week in week out. 

Credit to those in the Jewish community who have spoken out and joined the Pro Palestine protests. And credit to the Palestinians who speak out against Hamas, of which there are many.
 

What would be the best way to distance themselves from the minority of anti-semitism that is occurring on these marches? 
Shout at them? Stand two feet away? Ask to stop? Stop the whole demo until they go away?

Edited November 10, 2023 by London Wanderer

[wanderer1984]

21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 

 

21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Now we’ve proven that’s a bollocks forecast

Thanks for finally admitting it.

Edited November 10, 2023 by wanderer1984

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

15 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

They don’t need to call for it. Because the Israeli government brutally removes people from their land week in week out. 

Credit to those in the Jewish community who have spoken out and joined the Pro Palestine protests. And credit to the Palestinians who speak out against Hamas, of which there are many.
 

What would be the best way to distance themselves from the minority of anti-semitism that is occurring on these marches? 
Shout at them? Stand two feet away? Ask to stop? Stop the whole demo until they go away?

If people attended the vigil and expressed support for that action, or glorified terrorist actions committed by the Israeli government, attendees - and certainly the organisers - should have a moral obligation to root that sentiment out

And they should approach it as a matter of principle and with zeal

Have there been any demands from members of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign for the people responsible for the organisation's public statements on 7th October to be expelled or pressure from the other organisers to suspend their involvement until those expulsions happen?

Has there been any introspection on how many of the chants used by protestors are, at best, ambigious in their meaning and that a significant proportion utter those chants with malicious intent?

Has there been any sincere reflection, understanding, and respect for how many Jewish people are terrified of the intimidating atmosphere developing?

Has there been any investigations into to how often people with "controversial" views come to speak and play prominent roles in these protests, or how easy it seems to be to uncover hateful and racist rhetoric?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/live-bristol-school-strike-palestine-8897103

Seen video of this on the TV.

Fuck me, they're indoctrinating primary aged kids with antisemitic chants.

Some gormless do-gooder called China Fish organised it.

Absolutely cuntish behaviour- let the kids be fucking kids and stop inculcating them to have racist views before they can even understand the situation. 

[Not in Crawley]

Is there some sort of odd right-wing klaxon call you you sign into to get yourself proper wound up?

Anyway, ignoring the fact that annoying Bristolian hippies make my teeth itch, I'm not getting heavy hatred vibes from the lyrics.

'We pray for peace and liberation

We pray for peace in every nation

We pray for safetly for all children'

I mean it cut out then, so if it went onto 'We pray that we get the opportunity to cut the head off the next Jewish person I see.' fair enough.

I presume it goes on about from the river to the sea at come point which has got you right annoyed, but as we discussed a couple of days ago its not excatly a a one-way street.

I'm still baffled that people can take a really one-sided view to this conflict, but hey that's just me.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

27 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Is there some sort of odd right-wing klaxon call you you sign into to get yourself proper wound up?

Anyway, ignoring the fact that annoying Bristolian hippies make my teeth itch, I'm not getting heavy hatred vibes from the lyrics.

'We pray for peace and liberation

We pray for peace in every nation

We pray for safetly for all children'

I mean it cut out then, so if it went onto 'We pray that we get the opportunity to cut the head off the next Jewish person I see.' fair enough.

I presume it goes on about from the river to the sea at come point which has got you right annoyed, but as we discussed a couple of days ago its not excatly a a one-way street.

I'm still baffled that people can take a really one-sided view to this conflict, but hey that's just me.

 

Yes it does become anti semitic apparently. 

However, that isn't the point: they're kids, leave them alone to grow and mature without bias.

You ought to be able to grasp that, but as you appreciate blokes dressed as women overtly talking about your school age daughter's breasts, perhaps such common sense thinking is lost on you. 

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

 

Thanks for finally admitting it.

Nice try 😉

You’re getting desperate lad x

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

If people attended the vigil and expressed support for that action, or glorified terrorist actions committed by the Israeli government, attendees - and certainly the organisers - should have a moral obligation to root that sentiment out

And they should approach it as a matter of principle and with zeal

Have there been any demands from members of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign for the people responsible for the organisation's public statements on 7th October to be expelled or pressure from the other organisers to suspend their involvement until those expulsions happen?

Has there been any introspection on how many of the chants used by protestors are, at best, ambigious in their meaning and that a significant proportion utter those chants with malicious intent?

Has there been any sincere reflection, understanding, and respect for how many Jewish people are terrified of the intimidating atmosphere developing?

Has there been any investigations into to how often people with "controversial" views come to speak and play prominent roles in these protests, or how easy it seems to be to uncover hateful and racist rhetoric?

It’s not the majority, that much is obvious. Breakaway groups, isolated incidents. Whatever you want to call it. Any one can video just the morons at a demo and make that out to be representative. It’s odd seeing people getting so sucked into these videos.

Palestian’s don’t condemn Hamas brutality enough 

And Israeli’s don’t condemn their own governments brutality enough

 the hatred is embedded. It’s odd ( again ) seeing people so obsessed with the actions and ignorance of only one side.

[wanderer1984]

32 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Nice try 😉

You’re getting desperate lad x

Desperate to what?

Prove my opinion? Something I don’t need to do. 

You've spent the last 3 days trying prove what I said wouldn't happen. That's desperation!

In that time I've not once tried to prove it would. Are you really that bothered or do you just like the last word? 😂

You've had the 10% experts in and still failed.

 

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said:

Desperate to what?

Prove my opinion? Something I don’t need to do. 

You've spent the last 3 days trying prove what I said wouldn't happen. That's desperation!

In that time I've not once tried to prove it would. Are you really that bothered or do you just like the last word? 😂

You've had the 10% experts in and still failed.

 

You can have to last word mate

 it’s all yours - with bells on

 enjoy your Friday 

p.s - your opinion was wrong, my Muslim hating friend 😉

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Is there some sort of odd right-wing klaxon call you you sign into to get yourself proper wound up?

Anyway, ignoring the fact that annoying Bristolian hippies make my teeth itch, I'm not getting heavy hatred vibes from the lyrics.

'We pray for peace and liberation

We pray for peace in every nation

We pray for safetly for all children'

I mean it cut out then, so if it went onto 'We pray that we get the opportunity to cut the head off the next Jewish person I see.' fair enough.

I presume it goes on about from the river to the sea at come point which has got you right annoyed, but as we discussed a couple of days ago its not excatly a a one-way street.

I'm still baffled that people can take a really one-sided view to this conflict, but hey that's just me.

 

Aye

I spent 7 years in Bristol, the hippies there are of a breed I’ve never seen before. 
 

Another massive overreaction again though. You’d think it was fckn child abuse by the reaction.

No different to a parent taking a kid to church. It’s an anti-war protest ffs, hardly a radicalisation of the youth.

 

[wanderer1984]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

You can have to last word mate

 it’s all yours - with bells on

 enjoy your Friday 

p.s - your opinion was wrong, my Muslim hating friend 😉

👍🏻