Meanwhile in Israel

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Blondi said:

Can we not just unleash a couple of nukes at Tehran while we're at it? Kill two birdies with one stone.

Are you Donald Trump in disguise? 😁

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Are you Donald Trump in disguise? 😁

Plausible deniability.

"We believe the Iranians' attempts at uranium enrichment went wrong ".

 

[kent_white]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Plausible deniability.

"We believe the Iranians' attempts at uranium enrichment went wrong ".

 

Can you imagine if Iran manage to develop and test a nuke? That balance of power in that region is going to change forever.....

[globaldiver]

53 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Can you imagine if Iran manage to develop and test a nuke? That balance of power in that region is going to change forever.....

How does it play out?

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, globaldiver said:

How does it play out?

Well I'm no Henry Kissenger - but I think Iran can pretty much guarantee that the US and it's allies aren't going to engage in armed combat with them. In a similar fashion to the way North Korea have us by the short and curlies.

[globaldiver]

56 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Well I'm no Henry Kissenger - but I think Iran can pretty much guarantee that the US and it's allies aren't going to engage in armed combat with them. In a similar fashion to the way North Korea have us by the short and curlies.

Better sort them out before they get it then!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Iran has many internal problems. If the people can be "encouraged" to rise up again, in greater numbers, then the issue may resolve itself.

As for Yemen- the footage of protestors there today shows a hell of a lot of supporters of the Houthis- supposedly.

Didn't fit with the impression that the place is devastated by internal conflict.

The government there has also spoken and accused the Houthis of causing the conflict. 

[kent_white]

29 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Better sort them out before they get it then!

Or prevent them from getting one in the first place. But Donald Trump put pay to that. 

I think there's a small but realistic chance that Israel launches preemptively if they think it's close to fruition. Which is a terrifying thought......

[Tonge moor green jacket]

16 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Or prevent them from getting one in the first place. But Donald Trump put pay to that. 

I think there's a small but realistic chance that Israel launches preemptively if they think it's close to fruition. Which is a terrifying thought......

I'm not sure Iran could be trusted even with an agreement in place.

Some improvements since Trump went, but they're just a dodgy set. 

I've said on here before that I've worked with 4 of them in the past. All different characters, and most were pleasant.

One wasn't, and indeed I wouldn't put terrorism beyond him.

The one thing they had in common: I wouldn't have trusted any of them.

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm not sure Iran could be trusted even with an agreement in place.

Some improvements since Trump went, but they're just a dodgy set. 

I've said on here before that I've worked with 4 of them in the past. All different characters, and most were pleasant.

One wasn't, and indeed I wouldn't put terrorism beyond him.

The one thing they had in common: I wouldn't have trusted any of them.

I'd feel much more confident with inspectors going in regularly. I don't think they are since DT scrapped the deal are they? 

Also - did I imagine it - or did I read the US lost to Iran when they war gamed it a few years back?

[Winchester White]

24 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'd feel much more confident with inspectors going in regularly. I don't think they are since DT scrapped the deal are they? 

Also - did I imagine it - or did I read the US lost to Iran when they war gamed it a few years back?

Iran doing 'friendly' war games with the US? I doubt it.

But then again every time I think something someone has has said is stupidly fantastical in the past it usually ends up true when it comes to Murica.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-watchdog-condemns-iranian-decision-bar-some-inspectors-2023-09-16/

Seems that some inspections have been going on, but in September, Iran stopped them as they'd found something. 

No doubt since the Don did his thing, its got worse, but like I said, I just wouldn't trust them.

Bit like the east Germany situation, the people there don't know who's watching them etc. It must make for a very nervous society which brings distrust. I think the people are however realising how others live with comparative freedoms and are desperate to break out.

The nation is both different and yet similar following the Islamic revolution, and no better off for it.

[kent_white]

12 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Iran doing 'friendly' war games with the US? I doubt it.

But then again every time I think something someone has has said is stupidly fantastical in the past it usually ends up true when it comes to Murica.

No I think the US were acting as both sides and role playing it. Let me have a Google! 😁

[Cheese]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'm not sure Iran could be trusted even with an agreement in place.

Some improvements since Trump went, but they're just a dodgy set. 

I've said on here before that I've worked with 4 of them in the past. All different characters, and most were pleasant.

One wasn't, and indeed I wouldn't put terrorism beyond him.

The one thing they had in common: I wouldn't have trusted any of them.

Fuck me 😁

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Iran doing 'friendly' war games with the US? I doubt it.

But then again every time I think something someone has has said is stupidly fantastical in the past it usually ends up true when it comes to Murica.

Was 2002 so a bit longer ago than I initially thought! 

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/fact-us-military-lost-simulated-war-iran-back-2002-88136

[gonzo]

See we are using Typhoon fighter jets for this mission?

Made up the road in Warton.

[royal white]

23 minutes ago, gonzo said:

See we are using Typhoon fighter jets for this mission?

Made up the road in Warton.

Use um or lose um 

[Spider]

This would be an entirely different conflict if they were Hooters

[MickyD]

A question rather than a right wing ideology:

I’m seeing news pictures of thousands upon thousands of Yemeni men and male youths of fighting age all carrying kukris and Kalashnikov rifles standing in town squares vowing to fight the US and UK.

Does the fact they’re armed not make these gatherings a legitimate target?

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Apparently these mass gatherings are "forced" by their overlords.

[globaldiver]

China hadn’t been mentioned as yet in this chapter. 
 

If shipping their stuff to the West is hit, then they would need to be involved.

[Sweep]

57 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

China hadn’t been mentioned as yet in this chapter. 
 

If shipping their stuff to the West is hit, then they would need to be involved.

Its already causing huge problems, I've got about $2M with of goods that are going the "long way round" and won't get here this month as planned, which is a bit of a bugger

[MickyD]

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

China hadn’t been mentioned as yet in this chapter. 
 

If shipping their stuff to the West is hit, then they would need to be involved.

WWIII incoming? 

[globaldiver]

7 minutes ago, MickyD said:

WWIII incoming? 

God knows.

Reading that China abstained from the “bomb Houthi” vote at the Security Council.

They’ll not be able to sit on the fence forever.

I find it interesting that stock markets are holding up.

 

[DirtySanchez]

2 hours ago, globaldiver said:

China hadn’t been mentioned as yet in this chapter. 
 

If shipping their stuff to the West is hit, then they would need to be involved.

Would have thought Egypt aren't too happy if ships aren't using the Suez