Meanwhile in Israel

[Cheese]

30 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Certainly not what it's cracked up to be all this UN stuff.

A UN transit body has sent lots of refugees to Rwanda- a country that they apparently said wasn't safe, and formed part of the reasoning behind the supreme court's findings.

I wonder how easy it is to manage such a big, dispersed organisation. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67431602

 

It is true that the UNHCR, with financial support from the EU, has transferred refugees from Libya to Rwanda under a scheme called the Emergency Transit Mechanism (ETM).

However, the ETM is voluntary, not compulsory, like the UK's plan. The ETM offers vulnerable refugees, taken into detention by the Libyan authorities, a choice to have their application processed in Rwanda.

Libya - a major transit route for those hoping to reach Europe - is not considered a safe country for refugees.

People moved from Libya to Rwanda by the UNHCR are given assistance to resettle elsewhere should they choose to do so. It says that "as of March 2023, 932 refugees from the ETM centre have been resettled to Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and USA".

[Tonge moor green jacket]

And?

If it was so bad, the UN lot simply wouldn't allow it.

 

[Jol_BWFC]

Seems that some Iran-backed militants have had a pop at the US military in Jordan. I can see some sharp, swift retaliation from the aircraft carrier sitting in the Med.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Seems that some Iran-backed militants have had a pop at the US military in Jordan. I can see some sharp, swift retaliation from the aircraft carrier sitting in the Med.

Just reading an article on it, which quotes a Jordanian source saying it was base over the border in Syria. 

3 dead, over 20 injured.

Certainly another headache incoming for a few militants. 

[Cheese]

7 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

And?

If it was so bad, the UN lot simply wouldn't allow it.

Did you not read the bit about it being voluntary, and any people transported there can choose to be relocated?

[royal white]

15 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Just reading an article on it, which quotes a Jordanian source saying it was base over the border in Syria. 

3 dead, over 20 injured.

Certainly another headache incoming for a few militants. 

Can’t beat a conflict on foreign soil in the run up to an election.

[gonzo]

Nuke Iran!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Nuke Iran!

Rumblings that Israel may launch a few missiles their way. Wouldn't be those big boys obviously, but there's a big risk of serious escalation. 

[globaldiver]

Fair play to Starmer for a speedy suspension, but Labour is full of anti semitic filth

[Spider]

15 hours ago, globaldiver said:

Fair play to Starmer for a speedy suspension, but Labour is full of anti semitic filth

Will anti-semites give all our money to Michelle Mone for aprons made of newspaper?

[globaldiver]

54 minutes ago, Spider said:

Will anti-semites give all our money to Michelle Mone for aprons made of newspaper?

Eh?

[Casino]

i think his point might be that labour cranks and corrupt fuckers arent generally in the cabinet

 

and tbh, if holcaust day is intended to commemorate more than just jewish victims, ill have an internet 5er that in years to come, including gaza wont be contentious

[Spider]

1 hour ago, globaldiver said:

Eh?

I’ll try and put it in a graph.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

i think his point might be that labour cranks and corrupt fuckers arent generally in the cabinet

 

and tbh, if holcaust day is intended to commemorate more than just jewish victims, ill have an internet 5er that in years to come, including gaza wont be contentious

Let's hope it stays that way.

History says it won't, irrespective of party there are always some.

 

[globaldiver]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

i think his point might be that labour cranks and corrupt fuckers arent generally in the cabinet

 

and tbh, if holcaust day is intended to commemorate more than just jewish victims, ill have an internet 5er that in years to come, including gaza wont be contentious

Of course they aren’t in the cabinet, they aren’t in government!

I’ll take that bet.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Of course they aren’t in the cabinet, they aren’t in government!

I’ll take that bet.

Don't blame you.

 

[Casino]

9 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Of course they aren’t in the cabinet, they aren’t in government!

I’ll take that bet.

I actually have no idea who she is

You might not agree but theres no reason gaza shouldnt get a mention

I only learned yesterday that holocaust memorial day doesnt just cover the nazi atrocities

[Casino]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Don't blame you.

 

You would say that

2 out of 3 aint bad

 

[globaldiver]

19 minutes ago, Casino said:

I actually have no idea who she is

You might not agree but theres no reason gaza shouldnt get a mention

I only learned yesterday that holocaust memorial day doesnt just cover the nazi atrocities

Time will tell if Gaza becomes acknowledged a genocide, which is generally accepted as

“In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.^[1][2]”

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Well, if that makes Israel guilty, then it must also apply to Hamas, and maybe to other groups who vow to destroy the Jews. 

[London Wanderer]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well, if that makes Israel guilty, then it must also apply to Hamas, and maybe to other groups who vow to destroy the Jews. 

Absolutely 

Hamas are a terrorist organisation, you expect them to do vile things.

You don’t expect it from a liberal democracy.

The ICJ were clear that there was a plausible genocide case against Israel l. That doesn’t mean it will be labelled as such, but they’ve hardly thrown the case out.

 I’m a broken record i know, but if all Israel ever did was defend itself against Hamas, then there wouldn’t be a case. But they are regularly displacing innocent people, in areas where Hamas hold no power, under brutal circumstances. Now we know that the current government have do desire at all to see Palestinians have any rights under a two state solution.

Anybody who calls this out is just anti-Semitic filth though. Okay then 👍

[FrancisFogarty]

Meanwhile in the other Israel, the one I know and love.

 

It pissed it down yesterday.

[globaldiver]

16 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Absolutely 

Hamas are a terrorist organisation, you expect them to do vile things.

You don’t expect it from a liberal democracy.

The ICJ were clear that there was a plausible genocide case against Israel l. That doesn’t mean it will be labelled as such, but they’ve hardly thrown the case out.

 I’m a broken record i know, but if all Israel ever did was defend itself against Hamas, then there wouldn’t be a case. But they are regularly displacing innocent people, in areas where Hamas hold no power, under brutal circumstances. Now we know that the current government have do desire at all to see Palestinians have any rights under a two state solution.

Anybody who calls this out is just anti-Semitic filth though. Okay then 👍

If Hamas are faced with genocide, why have they turned down the latest ceasefire offer?

[frank_spencer]

I see that BD is still banging the 'criticism of Israel=anti semitism' drum.

Linking the actions of the Israeli Government to all Jewish folk is anti semitic, saying Israeli Government actions are those of a bunch of cunts isn't anti semitic.

[London Wanderer]

43 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

If Hamas are faced with genocide, why have they turned down the latest ceasefire offer?

You should write to the ICJ mate

 I’m sure when they see this latest argument that they will throw the case right out and save themselves 2 years deliberating. 
 

Hamas don’t speak for all Palestinians 👍