Members bolty58 Posted February 22, 2024 Members Posted February 22, 2024 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: we have a tinderbox of sectarianism. Which Enoch Powell accurately predicted many decades ago. The apologists, socialists and 'refugee advocates' should hang their heads in shame when they see that law defying mob on the streets of London which is now influencing the activities of a free countries democratic Parliament. We have recent history examples of where sectarianism leads. If you don't think this has a good chance of happening in GB then you really do have your head in the sand. Quote
Duck Egg Posted February 23, 2024 Posted February 23, 2024 Aye. You can't move round here for all the rivers of blood running through the streets. Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted February 23, 2024 Posted February 23, 2024 15 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said: Shame the Tories weren’t so vocal when their own prime minister was found to have broken the law and when it was abundantly clear he had misled parliament. 15 hours ago, BobyBrno said: They were. They kicked him out. He (and the government) were found to have broken the law in 2019 when they illegally prorogued parliament. 3 years before he quit. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 23, 2024 Members Posted February 23, 2024 It's probably only me who cares, but prorogation was found to be unlawful not illegal Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 36 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's probably only me who cares, but prorogation was found to be unlawful not illegal Semantics alert! I looked it up. Illegal means that it is forbidden by a law that has been passed. Unlawful means that it is not authorised by law because no such law has been passed. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 8 minutes ago, MickyD said: Semantics alert! I looked it up. Illegal means that it is forbidden by a law that has been passed. Unlawful means that it is not authorised by law because no such law has been passed. Doesn't sound much of a difference, but it is. By doing something later deemed unlawful, you've not broken any law. By doing something illegal, you have, and can be subject to trial, punishment imprisonment etc. Which I'd say is very significant. Not long back, the police stopped a protest march, which was later found to have been unlawful. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted February 23, 2024 Moderators Posted February 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It's probably only me who cares, but prorogation was found to be unlawful not illegal And what Hoyle did was neither? Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 23, 2024 Members Posted February 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, Casino said: And what Hoyle did was neither? Sure Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Doesn't sound much of a difference, but it is. By doing something later deemed unlawful, you've not broken any law. By doing something illegal, you have, and can be subject to trial, punishment imprisonment etc. Which I'd say is very significant. Not long back, the police stopped a protest march, which was later found to have been unlawful. Now here’s where it becomes confusing. Which was the unlawful bit, the March itself or the police stopping it? Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 5 hours ago, MickyD said: Now here’s where it becomes confusing. Which was the unlawful bit, the March itself or the police stopping it? The police stopping it. Hence a request from senior policing individuals to the government for new powers, to allow them to do such things in future. Hence the new legislation which followed. And now officers dragging the likes of jso from the roads. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 23, 2024 Members Posted February 23, 2024 A shift in policy from the US pn the West Bank settlements About time Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 The uk sanctioned 4 Israeli extremists a few days ago too. Quote
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted February 23, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 23, 2024 11 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Doesn't sound much of a difference, but it is. By doing something later deemed unlawful, you've not broken any law. By doing something illegal, you have, and can be subject to trial, punishment imprisonment etc. Which I'd say is very significant. Not long back, the police stopped a protest march, which was later found to have been unlawful. I bet plenty on the unlawful march were doing something illegal. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 24, 2024 Site Supporter Posted February 24, 2024 10 hours ago, FrancisFogarty said: I bet plenty on the unlawful march were doing something illegal. As I detailed, the particular march I referred to, didn't happen. It was banned. That banning was later declared unlawful. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 On 23/02/2024 at 08:32, Duck Egg said: Aye. You can't move round here for all the rivers of blood running through the streets. It's a complete nightmare. On Thursday for example, there I was on the District line and this bloke who had a Palestinian flag, god knows where he'd been, got out of his seat and offered it to with a bloke a young child! This sort of thing should not be allowed to stand!!!! Quote
Traf Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 10 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: It's a complete nightmare. On Thursday for example, there I was on the District line and this bloke who had a Palestinian flag, god knows where he'd been, got out of his seat and offered it to with a bloke a young child! This sort of thing should not be allowed to stand!!!! Offered the flag or the seat? 😉 Despicable behaviour. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 22 minutes ago, Traf said: Offered the flag or the seat? 😉 Despicable behaviour. ☺️ I'm always a bit curious as to why people who don't live in London get all het up about marches here. It's not spoiling my trip to Crystal Palace Food Market this morning. Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 (edited) Islamists have taken over London now! Got the mayor in their back pocket….. That’s according to Lee Anderson chatting away to GB news. The ‘London is Lost’ brigade are back out. Christ he’s full of shite. Do people actually believe the crap he comes out with? Imagine the outcry if a Labour MP had said similar things about ultra Zionists running London. They’d be out the job, and rightly so. Read the other day that we’ve seen similar rises in reports of Islamophobia as we have of antisemitism. Edited February 24, 2024 by London Wanderer Quote
deeane Koontz Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 (edited) 25 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Islamists have taken over London now! Got the mayor in their back pocket….. That’s according to Lee Anderson chatting away to GB news. The ‘London is Lost’ brigade are back out. Christ he’s full of shite. Do people actually believe the crap he comes out with? Imagine the outcry if a Labour MP had said similar things about ultra Zionists running London. They’d be out the job, and rightly so. Read the other day that we’ve seen similar rises in reports of Islamophobia as we have of antisemitism. They want to believe it. Unfortunately, it's all the Tories have. In their death throes desperately trying to appeal to rank thickos and bigots. I'd imagine most Tory surpporters can't wait for Lee Anderson and his ilk to do one. They're an embarrassment Edited February 24, 2024 by deeane Koontz Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: ☺️ I'm always a bit curious as to why people who don't live in London get all het up about marches here. It's not spoiling my trip to Crystal Palace Food Market this morning. Didn't affect my morning mooch round Canopy Market at Kings Cross either. The bloke charging 16 quid for a jar of honey nearly caused a heart attack though. Plenty of bewildered Geordie's ahead of their game at arsenal tonight wandering around among the hipsters. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 37 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Didn't affect my morning mooch round Canopy Market at Kings Cross either. The bloke charging 16 quid for a jar of honey nearly caused a heart attack though. Plenty of bewildered Geordie's ahead of their game at arsenal tonight wandering around among the hipsters. Get yourself over here - just had a lovely Thai lunch at under a tenner a dish Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 Just now, Not in Crawley said: Get yourself over here - just had a lovely Thai lunch at under a tenner a dish Missus is running a writing workshop at Queer Britain so I'm having a mooch round the middle class hipster mecca that the kings cross area has turned into. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 32 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: Missus is running a writing workshop at Queer Britain so I'm having a mooch round the middle class hipster mecca that the kings cross area has turned into. If you're around Granary Square, firstly don't go to the lighterman - it's a rip off. Go to the Queer history museum (used to work at Art Fund whose offices are above and then walk directly away from all the other crap and down the canal (see the bench slow horses is flim on) and then go to the wetherspoons at Camden lock. Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 24, 2024 Members Posted February 24, 2024 King's Cross is one of the best areas in London for boozing imo Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 24, 2024 Posted February 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: King's Cross is one of the best areas in London for boozing imo Seems to be mainly overpriced soulless bars. That said Crawley's suggestion of spoons is hardly enticing. Plus if I go too close to Camden I'll end up in All Ages records spending money i don't have on vinyl I don't need Quote
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