Meanwhile in Israel

[DirtySanchez]

11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Ofcom rules certainly wouldn't prevent the BBC from referring to the terrorist attack as a terrorist attack

So why did Shapps get his arse handed over by a BBC journalist over it?

[BobyBrno]

8 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'm anti terrorism  

Hamas are scum and should be dealt with 

I don't think this approach is a good idea 

I don't need someone to tell me what is proportionate, it's quite clear this is not

I don't think it's indiscriminate, I think Israel are deliberately taking this response to the next level 

Like they wanted an excuse to flatten Palestine 

Hamas appear to have given them one 

Israel should be handling it much better than this with the west behind them

Yeh, that’s what everyone else has said. I asked you what you asked me. What do you think about the attack on the hospital? 

[Zico]

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Joe Biden visiting tomorrow. Why would Israel do such a horrendous thing on the eve of a visit from their biggest allie? If they have then they will have lost all credibility around the world. Plenty of other versions out there. 

 

The US president's trip to the Middle East "just got a lot more complicated", US correspondent James Matthews says, after a deadly strike on a hospital in Gaza.

"It couldn't be worse," Matthews says.

Hamas says at least 500 people have been killed, and although that's not verified, Matthews says, "we are just a couple of hours away" from Mr Biden's departure for the Middle East.

"This is a man who has styled himself as the champion of 'humanity'," he says.

"Yes he is standing behind Israel but also stressing the humanitarian issues as well. He sees the danger in all of this.

"We are looking at unverified reports of what could be the deadliest airstrike in five wars since 2008 in Gaza if it is verified."

Mr Biden was already in a difficult position, given the level of mistrust in the US in recent years, but the hospital incident makes it significantly more problematic for the president.

"Joe Biden is in a position where he wants to project himself as a power broker, but he will be sitting in a meeting room looking at pictures of a hospital that has been bombed with a loss of several hundred lives," he says.

"It was always going to be a complicated trip for Joe Biden, it has just got more complicated." 

 

Be interesting to see how they react

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yeh, that’s what everyone else has said. I asked you what you asked me. What do you think about the attack on the hospital? 

Disgusting 

Unnecessary 

Have they neutralised hamas yet? 

Has it done what they hoped it would? 

Has it fuck 

Hamas and Israel are killing innocent people for the sake of it 

One of them shouldn't be

[London Wanderer]

Apologies, not a school. A Christian run hospital. Now reported with over 500 dead who were sheltering.

The response has become indefensible. Which felt impossible after the abject horrors of last weekend. 

[Spider]

Emirates flight EK19 has been grounded before take off at Manchester because of a bomb threat.

Chaos as flights are diverting to Liverpool.

Gonna be loss more of this.

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

Disgusting 

Unnecessary 

Have they neutralised hamas yet? 

Has it done what they hoped it would? 

Has it fuck 

Hamas and Israel are killing innocent people for the sake of it 

One of them shouldn't be

Are Israel doing it deliberately? 

[jmjhb]

I see Rachel Riley has replaced David Baddiel as the go-to Jewish celeb

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Are Israel doing it deliberately? 

Nah

They fired the missile during a period of evacuation by accident. I hear the fella that did it didn’t get the memo, admin error. Likely caused by Hamas.

They deliberately kill ten militants and accidentally hit 100 children👍

Edited October 17, 2023 by London Wanderer

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

12 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

So why did Shapps get his arse handed over by a BBC journalist over it?

Because he's thick as mince, or playing political games, or both

I'm not sure the BBC or others need to be as stringent as they choose to be regarding labelling Hamas a terrorist organisation, but the real disgrace is that they refuse to refer to Hamas' terrorist attack as a terrorist attack

 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Nah

They fired the missile during a period of evacuation by accident. I hear the fella that did it didn’t get the memo, admin error. Likely caused by Hamas.

Was that the intended target? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. 

[DirtySanchez]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Because he's thick as mince, or playing political games, or both

I'm not sure the BBC or others need to be as stringent as they choose to be regarding labelling Hamas a terrorist organisation, but the real disgrace is that they refuse to refer to Hamas' terrorist attack as a terrorist attack

 

I was meaning TMGJ singling out the BBC when there's others doing the same, but that seems to be ignored 

[Zico]

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

Are Israel doing it deliberately? 

I think so, yes

They know what they are doing 

This is the path they have decided to take 

So let's see where it takes them

[globaldiver]

14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Apologies, not a school. A Christian run hospital. Now reported with over 500 dead who were sheltering.

The response has become indefensible. Which felt impossible after the abject horrors of last weekend. 

Jumping to conclusions 

poor, typically poor

[London Wanderer]

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

Was that the intended target? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. 

It was during an evacuation period

The IDF knows full well these bombs will hit innocent civilians. And they have, in their thousands. No assumptions made in pointing that out 👍

[globaldiver]

Facts known; a hospital had been hit

Thats all is known, anything else is conjecture 

[globaldiver]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

It was during an evacuation period

The IDF knows full well these bombs will hit innocent civilians. And they have, in their thousands. No assumptions made in pointing that out 👍

Apart from who caused it

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It was during an evacuation period

The IDF knows full well these bombs will hit innocent civilians. And they have, in their thousands. No assumptions made in pointing that out 👍

Were they the intended target? 

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Jumping to conclusions 

poor, typically poor

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/israel-hamas-war-at-least-500-people-killed-in-hospital-bombing-in-gaza-palestinian-officials-claim-12986454
 

It’s an Anglican run hospital. The numbers confirmed are in every media outlet. What conclusion have you jumped to in regards to who fired the missile?

4 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Apart from who caused it

 It’s a historical conflict. Hamas’ atrocities have caused this latest flare up, nobody is denying that. But that doesn’t justify the amount of innocent lives Israel have taken since.

 

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Were they the intended target? 

They fire them knowing they will hit some militants and mostly innocent civilians. 
 

The IDF knows 👍

[globaldiver]

We know Hamas aren’t bothered about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza, having instigated the murdering of 1,200 innocent Israeli citizens; why would they now be concerned?

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

They fire them knowing they will hit some militants and mostly innocent civilians. 
 

The IDF knows 👍

So you don’t know. Just assuming again. 👍

[Winchester White]

Whatever the cause, its just awful.

[London Wanderer]

Just now, royal white said:

So you don’t know. Just assuming again. 👍

Nah

I don’t know that thousands of innocents have been killed including many women and children. 

I’m just assuming. 

Rest assured the IDF are looking into it and I’m sure there’s a plausible explanation 👍
 

They’ve got it badly wrong with the scale of this response, and there’s a risk we could all be sucked into it if things escalate.

Ah well ‘such is war’ 😉

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

Nah

I don’t know that thousands of innocents have been killed including many women and children. 

I’m just assuming. 

Rest assured the IDF are looking into it and I’m sure there’s a plausible explanation 👍
 

They’ve got it badly wrong with the scale of this response, and there’s a risk we could all be sucked into it if things escalate.

Ah well ‘such is war’ 😉

As you know civilians will get killed in war, always have always will. You seem to think it’s being done on purpose, why you’re coming to this conclusion is anyone’s guess as it only seems to be Hamas that are saying these Israeli strikes are deliberate.