Meanwhile in Israel

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

That is the most stupid thing I have read on the whole conflict. Fucking hell Mounts.

If you don’t see it think you’re a bit stupid… israel clears the scum and the average every day Palestinian lives in peace… until the new scum form. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Muddled & Puddled.

Deluded!

[Spider]

If the Palestinians hated Hamas so much they’d have got rid by now.

Truth is that they’re ok with it.

So are Iran.

I’ll say it again, it wasn’t a bloke with curly sideburns and thick glasses that killed those kids at the MEN.

We didn’t eradicate Nazis without regretfully accepting the collateral human damage.

Extreme Islam is a fucking menace we can really do well without.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Agree.

I'd add that it would clearly be very difficult for Gazans to oust them, or even demonstrate there, given Hamas' approach, but enough of them exist outside and are free to campaign for their removal. 

Just don't see protests to that effect. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Tonge moor green jacket

[Zico]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Well Im glad we are team USA if that's the case.

 

 

[Zico]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

You’re making out as if they’re deliberately killing loads of innocent people. 

Do you think they cut off humanitarian aid for two weeks by accident?

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Do you think they cut off humanitarian aid for two weeks by accident?

He was referring to the bombing. But you know that. 

[Zico]

57 minutes ago, Spider said:

If the Palestinians hated Hamas so much they’d have got rid by now.

Truth is that they’re ok with it.

So are Iran.

I’ll say it again, it wasn’t a bloke with curly sideburns and thick glasses that killed those kids at the MEN.

We didn’t eradicate Nazis without regretfully accepting the collateral human damage.

Extreme Islam is a fucking menace we can really do well without.

The guy who did the men was Muslim 

The guys who bombed market Street were Irish 

If they Irish hated the ira they'd have got rid by now

We didn't eradicate Nazis, they still exist 

Evil cunts everywhere 

Including extreme jews

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

The guy who did the men was Muslim 

The guys who bombed market Street were Irish 

If they Irish hated the ira they'd have got rid by now

We didn't eradicate Nazis, they still exist 

Evil cunts everywhere 

Including extreme jews

Who said the Irish hated the IRA? 

[Zico]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

He was referring to the bombing. But you know that. 

I didn't 

It goes way beyond "the bombing" 

As though there was one

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

The guy who did the men was Muslim 

The guys who bombed market Street were Irish 

If they Irish hated the ira they'd have got rid by now

We didn't eradicate Nazis, they still exist 

Evil cunts everywhere 

Including extreme jews

You can never truly eradicate an idea, or a belief.

And you shouldn’t.

But it’s on all of us to eradicate extreme versions that place no value on other humans that disagree with them and want them dead.

I’m with John and Yoko, trust me. But realistically it’s never going to happen, so extremism will always have to be dealt with forcefully.

Soz.

[Zico]

Just now, Spider said:

You can never truly eradicate an idea, or a belief.

Which it's why it's not on the every day Palestinians to eliminate hamas 

I've no problem with Israel and their mates doing it 

If they do it properly 

But no one has ever done it properly in the history of everything 

And tell me how this ALSO doesn't apply to Israel 

"But it’s on all of us to eradicate extreme versions that place no value on other humans that disagree with them and want them dead"

Because you can apply that to israel so far as I can see

They killed Jesus FFS

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

Which it's why it's not on the every day Palestinians to eliminate hamas 

I've no problem with Israel and their mates doing it 

If they do it properly 

But no one has ever done it properly in the history of everything 

And tell me how this ALSO doesn't apply to Israel 

"But it’s on all of us to eradicate extreme versions that place no value on other humans that disagree with them and want them dead"

Because you can apply that to israel so far as I can see

They killed Jesus FFS

Jesus was getting too big for his sandals and this 12 disciples bit absolutely STANK of recent Tory cabinets.

It’s not hard to see why he was potted, to be honest.

Nobody could have predicted that city breaks 2000 years later would revolve around buildings in his name.

[globaldiver]

2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I don't have the knowledge on the whole thing other than trying my best to make sense of it all through articles past and present.

From reading, things were so very close to a form of solution back then, yet so far, seems a light year away now.

Quite

Now Israel can look to finish it.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[gonzo]

29 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

Ah the left defending the left that are that far fucking left they are right. 

Labour need to be strong on this.

Why dont Islam form their own party?

Sooner they are eradicated from social politics the better. 

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, Zico said:

In terms of hamas 

How will we know when the job is done? 

I want them wiped out as much as you 

So far, apparently, it's 7000 Palestinians to 1400 Israelis 

I doubt the 7000 are all hamas 

I've heard collateral damage and inevitable death of civilians etc mentioned but it's not been clarified what the acceptable ratio is 

I'd have thought a calculated attack on hamas targets based on Intel would be the best way to go about it, as opposed to a blanket laying of destruction of Gaza 

Do hamas have a figurehead like bin Laden they can go after? 

Just really not sure how or when we will know that Israel have dealt with them

"Acceptable ratio". A curious term. As a matter of interest, you might want to eke out details of past exchanges for Israeli hostages versus imprisoned Palestinian terrorists. I don't think there is any doubt which side places more value on cherished human life.

The 7,000 you refer to is a number from Hamas controlled sources. You may as well go back to believing that Israel bombed a hospital if you believe that number.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, Casino said:

seeing as this seems difficult

 

if PM Ben lobs a big fat bomb at London cos theres a few not rights having a party over the death or poor innocents, is it fair to flatten Israel and all its population?

You need to find a weaker weed pal. Avoid the hydroponic ones.

[bolty58]

It all gets rather tiresome. None on here will change their position on this issue. None in the Middle East will either. I can understand why Boby would chuck in the towel on this thread. It's all pretty pointless as Israel must and will act.

It's a very simple sum to do. Israel must punish Hamas to a degree that borders complete extermination (or preferably achieves it totally). Anything other than this will simply mean more depraved butchery by the same or similar primitive savages. The mob who removed a baby from a woman's womb, beheaded it and then beheaded the mother must be removed from the face of the Earth rather than be allowed to live and be poster boys for some who like to wave Palestinian flags. Inhuman and happy to commit the most profoundly depraved acts beyond what even the Nazi's could come up with. The pro Palestinians on here won't like it but it's a fact that their stance provides tacit support to the subhuman scumbags who carried out this unforgivable attack.

The sooner Israel liberates however many Palestinians remain alive in the Gaza Strip after this is all over the better. Collateral damage is inevitable, especially when Hamas are perfectly happy to put the people they purport to represent in the line of fire as human shields. Israel will ignore the bleating from the UN and the like and get the job done. Most of the bleating is only for 'optics' anyway.

[Zico]

Speaking of collateral damage 

Here's a website showing the number of children killed on each side since the year 2000  

https://countingthekids.org/

The data sources are listed at the bottom

[London Wanderer]

Israel’s actions won’t ‘liberate’ Palestinians, neither will it make Israel safer in the long run. I hope I’m wrong.
 

The idea that Palestinians should welcome the IDF with open arms into the Gaza Strip has to be one of the ridiculous things I’ve ever read on here. And you can understand from reading the details why Palestine rejected those historic deals. Nobody would choose to be a nation without those basic rights.
 

Ultimately, nobody on here can really understand, because we haven’t seen our innocent loved ones massacred by Hamas, or by Israel. The majority of Israeli’s want revenge & so do the majority of Palestinians. How big those majorities are will influence the outcome.

 The more it goes on, the more likely it looks to escalate. 

[London Wanderer]

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

Speaking of collateral damage 

Here's a website showing the number of children killed on each side since the year 2000  

https://countingthekids.org/

The data sources are listed at the bottom

Christ

 That’s all Hamas’ fault. These things happen in war unfortunately and I’m sure Israel didn’t do it on purpose. 🙄

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Christ

 That’s all Hamas’ fault. These things happen in war unfortunately and I’m sure Israel didn’t do it on purpose. 🙄

It is Hamas fault, if Hamas would live in peace with Israel and Jews then Israel would never throw bombs at Palestinians…. It’s that simple… bit like you.

[London Wanderer]

13 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Whatever. My position should be fairly clear even for you to understand. 

It’s quite clear that the responses are different in the scale of bombing and time frame. No point getting sucked into the technicalities. 

[Spider]

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