Members Rudy Posted June 21, 2021 Members Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Mr Grey said: Simple question. When do you want the players to stop taking the knee or how long do you want it to go on for. Go on, I will give you my answer: NOW Where have I said it? Go on then As long as it’s carrying on the conversation. As long as it’s annoying people who are upset at 3 precious seconds by booing or being sick of it Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Rudy said: Where have I said it? Go on then As long as it’s carrying on the conversation. As long as it’s annoying people who are upset at 3 precious seconds by booing or being sick of it But surely the point is to stop racism not annoy people by your own admission? Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 21, 2021 Members Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Grey said: How long do you want the players to keep taking the knee before games, simple question, just answer it. I’ve answered it you bellend Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 21, 2021 Members Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: But surely the point is to stop racism not annoy people by your own admission? Ok not annoy but to make people realise it’s not a fad, that booing and abusing players online will only make it go on longer Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 21, 2021 Members Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Mr Grey said: Have you ? No definite timescale in your answer ? Bit touchy, as something got to you ? Is there a definite timescale for racism to end? No not really, just think you come across as a bit of a ignorant cock and not the person I thought I knew all those years ago And you said I want it to go on forever you couldn’t answer where I said that, because I haven’t Quote
Guest Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 What about none blacks who get abused online gemma Collins doesn’t half get dogs Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: Ok not annoy but to make people realise it’s not a fad, that booing and abusing players online will only make it go on longer And you think that’s going to stop It? I see it as futile really. It’s not going To stop it. Players can keep doing it folk in the stands will Keep booing. And all through this wee charade people will still abuse players on social media. It’s quite simple it isn’t going to stop it and never was. Regulating social media and Punishing people appropriately will. Simple as that. are you ever going to stop racism though in its entirety? No. Sadly. Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 21, 2021 Members Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Escobarp said: And you think that’s going to stop It? I see it as futile really. It’s not going To stop it. Players can keep doing it folk in the stands will Keep booing. And all through this wee charade people will still abuse players on social media. It’s quite simple it isn’t going to stop it and never was. Regulating social media and Punishing people appropriately will. Simple as that. are you ever going to stop racism though in its entirety? No. Sadly. I don’t think it will but it keeps the conversation going 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: @Rudy Invite: Why don't you come into the College were I work, we have around 80 Students doing sport and a couple of units involve physiology. Come in, give a talk about you became a Physio at Manchester City, and as a POC at the most successful club of the last 10 years in the EPL. I can sort it with the sports department for the next academic year, I'm sure the sports staff and students would benefit enormously regarding how you got there and your experiences in getting there. And it would be very self satisfying for yourself to pass on that experience and maybe you could be an inspiration to some of our Students to fulfill their ambitions In what is a very difficult career to get into. Happily Quote
London Wanderer Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 Take the knee before the talk Rudy.. just to wind him up Quote
London Wanderer Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: it isn’t going to stop it and never was. Regulating social media and Punishing people appropriately will. Simple as that. It highlights that a problem exists and gets people talking. Those solutions that you mention might come about quicker the more awareness is raised. I agree with some of what you're saying but to me I don't see the futility in something that raises awareness. Just a shame it's so divisive and that people are still trying to link it to George Floyd. Quote
Escobarp Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: It highlights that a problem exists and gets people talking. Those solutions that you mention might come about quicker the more awareness is raised. I agree with some of what you're saying but to me I don't see the futility in something that raises awareness. Just a shame it's so divisive and that people are still trying to link it to George Floyd. It highlights nothing that we didn’t already know. And it’s done nowt to lessen it as far as I’m aware. So it’s pointless unless you see two sides continually bickering over their entrenched views and nobody budging an inch as positive? If you do it’s a very odd viewpoint. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) This is a great article to educate on racism, has more impact on me than footballers taking the knee. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57518071 Edited June 22, 2021 by Mounts Kipper Quote
London Wanderer Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Escobarp said: It highlights nothing that we didn’t already know. And it’s done nowt to lessen it as far as I’m aware. So it’s pointless unless you see two sides continually bickering over their entrenched views and nobody budging an inch as positive? If you do it’s a very odd viewpoint. I don't want to big it up as some great turning point or political action. It probably has gone on for too long. But nothing ever changes overnight. But I just don't see it as totally futile. It is sending a message to the powers that be ( the FA, Uefa, police social media etc.) that we need proper punishment and regulation. Whether people boo or not is irrelevant. Whether people are bickering is irrelevant. The message is still being sent to those who have the power to do more. Many of those players taking the knee have to travel to countries on a yearly basis where they are victims of racial abuse whilst representing their country. Then wait around as Uefa brand out some piss poor punishment. Some of these teams are in the tournament - so the Euros is the right place for it in my opinion. Edited June 22, 2021 by London Wanderer Quote
Escobarp Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 The only “power that be” that matters is the police. The fa and Uefa have zero power over joe public. The players also as I’ve said should come off social media. Force the socials to do something. But they won’t because of greed. Simple. Quote
tomski Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 16 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: What about none blacks who get abused online gemma Collins doesn’t half get dogs Instead of kneeling they lie down fully waiting for her to do her thing!!! Quote
Members DazBob Posted June 22, 2021 Members Posted June 22, 2021 16 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: What about none blacks who get abused online gemma Collins doesn’t half get dogs Gemma Collins FFS. :D:D:D Not sure if intentional, but that's the worst whataboutery I've ever seen. Kudos if it was supposed to be a piss-take. Haha. Quote
Moderators Zico Posted June 22, 2021 Moderators Posted June 22, 2021 16 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: What about none blacks who get abused online gemma Collins doesn’t half get dogs if Gemma Collins took the knee it'd take her about half an hour to get back up Quote
Guest Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, DazBob said: Gemma Collins FFS. :D:D:D Not sure if intentional, but that's the worst whataboutery I've ever seen. Kudos if it was supposed to be a piss-take. Haha. Thought you’d comment sooner mate slacking daz Quote
Guest Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zico said: if Gemma Collins took the knee it'd take her about half an hour to get back up Thinned out these days you would Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 22, 2021 Members Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zico said: if Gemma Collins took the knee it'd take her about half an hour to get back up And another half an hour to fix the bunker Quote
Members Rudy Posted June 22, 2021 Members Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Thinned out these days you would Her head is the size of a fiat panda Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 22, 2021 Site Supporter Posted June 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Thinned out these days you would Aye, proper thin these days isn't she.... https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gemma-collins-declares-its-hot-24311484 Quote
Guest Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Cheese said: Aye, proper thin these days isn't she.... https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/gemma-collins-declares-its-hot-24311484 Calm down I’m messing around Quote
tomski Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Calm down I’m messing around Haha thought the same. Sadly takes itself too seriously these days Quote
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 22, 2021 Site Supporter Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Calm down I’m messing around Fuming. Quote
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