Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 20, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, royal white said: Yes apart from this I thought Covid was handled quite well. Looking at other countries (can we compare countries in this thread?) no one seemed to do everything right and I don’t think any country was expected to Absolutely. The amount of borrowing to get through it was warned against in some quarters as it would affect the economy later. Which has happened. The same all over. Yet had the money not been spent, just imagine what the political effects would have been at the time. Devil and the deep blue sea. Anyway, that's rhe reason for the enquiry. To reveal successes and failures, and learn from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 20, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Absolutely. The amount of borrowing to get through it was warned against in some quarters as it would affect the economy later. Which has happened. The same all over. Yet had the money not been spent, just imagine what the political effects would have been at the time. Devil and the deep blue sea. Anyway, that's rhe reason for the enquiry. To reveal successes and failures, and learn from them. I just hope the powers that ‘were’ didn’t simply channel loads of money to companies they or their families had a stake in. Because that would be very suspicious, even in a pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: I just hope the powers that ‘were’ didn’t simply channel loads of money to companies they or their families had a stake in. Because that would be very suspicious, even in a pandemic. I'm sure none of that went on. Everything throughout the pandemic trusted the science and was done for the greater good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Been following things in New Zealand. They were praised by many for their approach to COVID restrictions. The government has recently been ousted. A Labour government, unfairly by my reckoning. We may have a NZ poster who could enlighten us. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/14/new-zealand-election-2023-results-national-party-labour- Acknowledging the natural disasters, terrorist attack and pandemic that marred his government’s term, Hipkins said: “I honestly think that the Gods rounded up curveballs to throw at us.” I dont live there anymore but still follow NZ politics. Light years ahead of the UK btw. Ardern locked down Auckland far too long, where about 40% of the population live. It dominates NZ so much that pretty much everyone was affected. Also Labour engineered a housing boom during Covid which they're now paying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I think 2020 was very poorly handled by the Govt including the critical start. Had a couple of weeks buffer too when it was clear Italy was fucked. 2021 was far better when they started listening to scientists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 20, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Spider said: 😂😂😂 reminds me of this gem https://27bslash6.com/overdue.html Ha ha I was about to post the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Anyone watching this enquiry on Sky news? Ol' Party Marty turned his disappearing message function on just as the inquiry started and cant remember why he did it. But he can remember every single other bit of detail at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 30, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, gonzo said: Ol' Party Marty turned his disappearing message function on just as the inquiry started and cant remember why he did it. unions made him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 31, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Eh? How on earth are you getting that impression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 31, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Bold How many lives did they save? How many would have died had we just carried on as normal? Edited October 31, 2023 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 31, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: Bold How many lives did they save? How many would have died had we just carried on as normal? I would like to know what evidence they have and if anyone mentions fucking Sweden I will fucking scream as they clearly do not understand Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 31, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Winchester White said: I would like to know what evidence they have and if anyone mentions fucking Sweden I will fucking scream as they clearly do not understand Sweden. It’s impossible to prove either way. So a nonsensical statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 31, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2023 “If he’s played Elmander up front we’d be playing in the champions league by now” Prove me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: Eh? How on earth are you getting that impression? He's not been watching the same enquiry as I have, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 31, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Youre taking the piss Arent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 31, 2023 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2023 Can criminal charges come out of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted October 31, 2023 Members Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 1, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 1, 2023 If its looking that way, his eyes are fooooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. Go on, I'll call this out, because whatever your rationale, you are typing absolute, unadulterated horse shit. If a few months of me not seeing my mates down the pub, and having to hug my nan virtually for a few months meant that Betty down the road and thousands, if not millions, like her, had the best chance of living, I'd do the same again. Every. Single. Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 1, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 I’ll wait for the graph to prove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 hours ago, globaldiver said: Looking increasingly as though lockdowns were the wrong option. What the fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I believe he's alluding to the point where yesterday when questioned Cummings believed that with a better test and trace system we wouldn't have had to lockdown, but because Cummings believed Dido and Handcock were not up to the task and repeatedly lied about how up to speed they were to the cabinet office that lockdowns became inevitable to protect the most vulnerable as there was no other system in place. It was Cummings way of saying the system (of which he was part of) wasn't up to the task and led to harder lockdowns that were inconsistent. But that's quite a leap to then suggest lockdowns were not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 1, 2023 Author Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 I honestly did think a G7 country would have a pandemic plan in place. Turns out we didn’t (neither did any of them to be fair). Still, Boris had bigger issues to worry about at the time, I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 1, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, Spider said: I honestly did think a G7 country would have a pandemic plan in place. Turns out we didn’t (neither did any of them to be fair). Still, Boris had bigger issues to worry about at the time, I’m sure. There was a dedicated team called the Threats, Hazards, Resilience and Contingency Committee that was responsible for pandemic planning, but Johnson scrapped it 6 months before Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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