stevieb Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Quality cross from trippier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted July 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2021 Quality so far. I fancy Italy to show far more 2nd half but we can destroy them down the flanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 New tactic from Southgate... Gift them a corner after 30 seconds and then score a goal on the break. Different Worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirNatsDog Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Southgate out. Been so good up to now and bottled it when the opportunity was there. Well done Italy, they wanted it far more than we did after the first half. Rashford wants locking up for that pathetic attempt. If you’re going to try fancy Dan stuff, at least make sure you hit the bloody target and what’s all this start and stop nonsense he and Sancho did? Just pick a spot and put your foot through it like the Italians did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2021 Ah well. Disappointing, but we seemed to sit back part way through the first half and only played a little in extra time. Penalties are always a lottery, but there were 3 quite poor ones. Not sure Sancho had kicked the ball, and Rashford made one tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 11, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SirNatsDog said: Southgate out. Been so good up to now and bottled it when the opportunity was there. Well done Italy, they wanted it far more than we did after the first half. Rashford wants locking up for that pathetic attempt. If you’re going to try fancy Dan stuff, at least make sure you hit the bloody target and what’s all this start and stop nonsense he and Sancho did? Just pick a spot and put your foot through it like the Italians did. Poor penalties aren't Southgate's fault. Calling for his head is bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirNatsDog Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Poor penalties aren't Southgate's fault. Calling for his head is bollocks. Only joking Jacket, he’s done brilliant during the tournament but I do think he got lots wrong tonight. As for the pens, why on earth do they try to be fancy when just picking a spot and putting your foot through it as The two Harry’s did gave the keeper no chance? Ah well, great performance from the team up to tonight and both they and Gareth can learn from this for the coming World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, SirNatsDog said: Southgate out. Been so good up to now and bottled it when the opportunity was there. Well done Italy, they wanted it far more than we did after the first half. Rashford wants locking up for that pathetic attempt. If you’re going to try fancy Dan stuff, at least make sure you hit the bloody target and what’s all this start and stop nonsense he and Sancho did? Just pick a spot and put your foot through it like the Italians did. Piss off and do your booing elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Ah well. Disappointing, but we seemed to sit back part way through the first half and only played a little in extra time. Penalties are always a lottery, but there were 3 quite poor ones. Not sure Sancho had kicked the ball, and Rashford made one tackle. Almost a carbon copy of Croatia in 2018. Disappointing, but hopefully forgotten & forgiven by the time the WC is over next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) We need to get fitter, much fitter. We wilted in the 2nd half just like we did against Croatia in the semi in Russia. Kane didn’t turn up and Sterling wasn’t at his best. Oh, and we’re fucking shite at penalties. Edited July 11, 2021 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: Almost a carbon copy of Croatia in 2018. Disappointing, but hopefully forgotten & forgiven by the time the WC is over next year. Hopefully it's not forgotten. It has to be learned from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton in bedford Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Hopefully it's not forgotten. It has to be learned from. We’ve had 30 odd years trying to learn how to take penalties, and we’re still shit at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, bolton in bedford said: We’ve had 30 odd years trying to learn how to take penalties, and we’re still shit at it. The post I quoted wasn't about penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Lottery. Proud of them. Would have made the changes on 65 mins. Still think Southgate is a bit hesitant with subs in big games. Still he hasn't got much wrong over the last 4 weeks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted July 11, 2021 Members Share Posted July 11, 2021 Fucking proud of them👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Did really well all in all , albeit it was basically a home tournament .But for the first half tonight we made a very good and wily Italian team look very ordinary , but they showed all their experience in the 2nd half and we were probably fortunate to get to extra time level . I said to my Missus before the pens that our body language looked beaten before 1 was taken . 2 shit penalties did for us but how wise it was in hindsight to bring on 2 lads who hadn't kicked a ball all night will need to be answered. what a man mountain the keeper was though., reminiscent of David James filling the goal in the Villa semi final. Hopefully we carry on improving for the world cup. A good effort lads and kept our household and the nation buzzing for a few weeks. Edited July 11, 2021 by dusan nikolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Great overall when things have calmed down & it can be seen for what it is. However, on the night Mancini outthought Southgate, the wily old heads of the Italian team outplayed & outfouled England. That we got to penalties at all was fortunate Had we won it would have been against the run of play. But ... those penalties. I fckg refuse to accept stuttery run-ups to penalties. If I was manager I'd utterly ban it. Choose where you're going to hit it, do not change your mind, hit the fckg thing. End of. Top corner, either side ... on target. Goal. See McGuires THAT is a fckg penalty. They can coach that, practice that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 We’re serial bottlers, can’t see us ever wining a tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Great overall when things have calmed down & it can be seen for what it is. However, on the night Mancini outthought Southgate, the wily old heads of the Italian team outplayed & outfouled England. That we got to penalties at all was fortunate Had we won it would have been against the run of play. But ... those penalties. I fckg refuse to accept stuttery run-ups to penalties. If I was manager I'd utterly ban it. Choose where you're going to hit it, do not change your mind, hit the fckg thing. End of. Top corner, either side ... on target. Goal. See McGuires THAT is a fckg penalty. They can coach that, practice that. I think Ray Stewart, West Ham's penalty expert said " hit em hard enough and they should go in " . The run up bollocks grates more than the actual miss . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, dusan nikolic said: I think Ray Stewart, West Ham's penalty expert said " hit em hard enough and they should go in " . The run up bollocks grates more than the actual miss . Frannie Lee said to me at a school match "Don't change your mind & hit it hard". Served me well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Frannie Lee said to me at a school match "Don't change your mind & hit it hard". Served me well. No doubt about it ., especially with a keeper that size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Southgate apparently chose the penalty takers based on players performances in training. Bollocks to that, choose the lads who step forward in the night who are up for it. There was a sort of inevitibilty with the penalties. Sako never looked confident with his pen and Rash/Sancho’s were just lame. Gareth got it wrong on the night unfortunately and was outthought by Mancini. Kane should have been subbed on the hour after a poor performance and a fairly shit tornament , we needed fresh energy and Sterling was fairly ineffective throughout the game. Our “big players” just didn’t turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I received a text after about an hour. It said "Use your subs Southgate. Bring Sterling & Kane on". They barely showed. Now, maybe that was the defenders quality but that's why changes were needed. I won't, long term, be downhearted. But right now, that performance after 30m was poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said: I received a text after about an hour. It said "Use your subs Southgate. Bring Sterling & Kane on". They barely showed. Now, maybe that was the defenders quality but that's why changes were needed. I won't, long term, be downhearted. But right now, that performance after 30m was poor. In order to beat Italy we needed all 11 players to be on top of their games, but a couple of our key players just didn’t turn up on the night. Edited July 12, 2021 by Burndens Bogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: Almost a carbon copy of Croatia in 2018. Disappointing, but hopefully forgotten & forgiven by the time the WC is over next year. Already forgiven by me. This tournament has given my lad a passion for football, and he's chomping at the bit for me to take him to watch Bolton. Been trying to get him into it for a couple of years now, but it's never stuck. It has now. Gutted for him more than anything. Proud as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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