Members burnden Posted September 22, 2021 Members Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 points deducted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Sad to see yet another big, old club get into serious trouble and with much bigger debts than we had, more difficult to see them getting out of it. Yet again a team ruined chasing the riches of the promised land in the PL. I hope they can find a genuine owner like Sharon to rebuild them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnden Pies Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, burnden said: 12 points deducted Probably more to come due to the irregularities on the accounts. Accounts that should have been submitted last season and if they had those points would have been deducted then, meaning Derby would have been relegated. Morris himself says the accounts are 'about £4mil out', and if true that's a four point deduction. Enabled them to stay up last season I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. I did warn folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 22, 2021 Author Members Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, gonzo said: The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. I did warn folk Fraud and money laundering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gonzo said: The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. I did warn folk He’s going out punching, be interesting to see how this goes. Edited September 22, 2021 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Fraud and money laundering? https://www.fleetwoodtoday.co.uk/news/crime/fleetwood-town-owner-andy-pilley-accused-of-fraud-and-money-laundering-and-appears-in-court-in-blackpool-3392290 FTFC are in £20m in debt to Pilleys energy firms as well. Fuck knows whats going on with what MK just posted. The blokes a crook but what hes done for Fleetwood and Thornton where their academy is, is unbelievable. Be a shame if it all goes tits up, even though everyone knew it would do eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 hours ago, gonzo said: https://www.fleetwoodtoday.co.uk/news/crime/fleetwood-town-owner-andy-pilley-accused-of-fraud-and-money-laundering-and-appears-in-court-in-blackpool-3392290 FTFC are in £20m in debt to Pilleys energy firms as well. Fuck knows whats going on with what MK just posted. The blokes a crook but what hes done for Fleetwood and Thornton where their academy is, is unbelievable. Be a shame if it all goes tits up, even though everyone knew it would do eventually Fleetwoods Escobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Rudy said: Fraud and money laundering? 8 years of investigations, a 3 month trial. Fraud is notoriously complex but fck that's a long time. Now, as per MK, he's going out swinging & I doubt he cares less about who he hits. Where's Basinni when you need him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 deja vu reading DerbyWays - threads about what division their phoenix club could end up in, players asked to take wage deferrals etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye doyle Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 I want Derby to survive. They’re an old club with a big fan base. Good luck to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 So do I want Derby to survive Popeye and also Fleetwood. You have to feel sorry for the fans of these clubs who just want to watch and support their teams. We know exactly what it’s like when owners you have to trust let you down like this. Sadly the money needed to compete at all levels these days just encourages owners to push the margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Whist I feel for the fans, the club should have had a points deduction last season for the irregularities, and that would have relegated them, the -12 would then be applied this season in L1, so they would be adrift at the bottom of this division instead of the Championship. It stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Feel for the Derby fans. A proper club and fans, who're just unfortunate to be the latest victims of the money madness. Fleetwood are a bloated amateur club, who will revert to bumbling around the non leagues again if the worst should happen. Same as Salford and Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 23, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 23, 2021 Fuck Fleetwood, fuck Derby Have SSN got a countdown click on yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Just now, Casino said: Fuck Fleetwood, fuck Derby Have SSN got a countdown click on yet? Get off the fence. i am sure both sets of fans wanted us to go under so fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, Gonk said: Whist I feel for the fans, the club should have had a points deduction last season for the irregularities, and that would have relegated them, the -12 would then be applied this season in L1, so they would be adrift at the bottom of this division instead of the Championship. It stinks. Exactly. Macclesfield and bury both had to suffer. these cunts are getting off lightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Not sure Fleetwood are in any immediate danger with all their monies being owed to Pilleys own company. What happens to those loans if Pilley gets done and his businesses not allowed to operate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Shiner co can take up the role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emus wig Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Feel sorry for Wycombe fuck Derby should have gone down last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 23, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Not sure Fleetwood are in any immediate danger with all their monies being owed to Pilleys own company. What happens to those loans if Pilley gets done and his businesses not allowed to operate? Don't know how these things operate, but I would imagine that if the company is solvent it would be allowed to continue. Obviously if dodgy money has been involved and that has to be recovered then things might be difficult, but if a legitimate, going concern is still there, then would the authorities want it closed putting folk out of work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't know how these things operate, but I would imagine that if the company is solvent it would be allowed to continue. Obviously if dodgy money has been involved and that has to be recovered then things might be difficult, but if a legitimate, going concern is still there, then would the authorities want it closed putting folk out of work? I don’t think it’s even a question of how the money came about, but if Pilley is the sole reason they’re currently paying their bills and his businesses are closed down then they would be pretty much going straight in to administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 23, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I don’t think it’s even a question of how the money came about, but if Pilley is the sole reason they’re currently paying their bills and his businesses are closed down then they would be pretty much going straight in to administration. Aye, but that's my point- his business might not be closed. Don't know how it's set up, or whether it could be taken on without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Serves the fvkr right for foisting Crellin on us .... &, more so, not being willing to take the useless lump back. I hope he gets 78 years to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 Looks almost certain these are getting an extra 9 points deducted. Our usual 4-0 battering is back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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