Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2022 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: And that's without a stadium to play in! Kinell. That’s got to be one of the highest debts for a championship club in administration Edited January 28, 2022 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Aye he's a scouser, but he's showing something that you don't normally see from other managers, a sense of loyalty to the situation he is in, deserves enormous credit imo. You have a point there, I have been privately nodding to him when he has been on TV Parkie also conducted himself in a dignified way in the middle of all the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: But nobody wanted Parkinson and he had no seige mentality going on with the players, them & us during our situation, he hid behind it all, he was an absolute shithouse! Don't forget ballooning to Wilbraham. But in fairness, he did remain quite calm and dignified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't forget ballooning to Wilbraham. But in fairness, he did remain quite calm and dignified. The managers in both circumstances were/are acting in the club's interests by projecting a day to day stability. Looks like Mel Morris has walked away completely with the property deeds in his back pocket whereas Parkie had to put up with Anderson's vanity and then no socks Bassinni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2022 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Grey said: I don't think Parkinson has it in him to get excited, emotionless, I've seen sloths looking more lively than that cnut! Had an early night with a Horlicks when we got promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I don't think Parkinson has it in him to get excited, emotionless, I've seen sloths looking more lively than that cnut! He was indeed. I wonder if he managed to permanently "zone out" whilst Ken was there. Like a Buddhist monk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2022 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: ..and ? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 28, 2022 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: ..and ? I was referring to Parky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, Rudy said: I was referring to Parky Aye. He may have had it luke warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Mr Grey said: Aye he's a scouser, but he's showing something that you don't normally see from other managers, a sense of loyalty to the situation he is in, deserves enormous credit imo. He's on 90k a week in a no lose situation, no wonder he's sticking around Fair play on their results like, be very impressive if they stay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted January 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2022 He will end up at Burnley or Blackburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 57 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: He's got the players playing and showing some balls, which is more than can be said with regards to Parky & that fucking embarrassment Chino, they won't stay up imo, starting to lose players and the longer the season goes on they will start accepting their fate. Parky massively overachieved for us, first by getting us promoted whilst under an embargo & then even more remarkably, by keeping us in the championship with a div 1 squad & the loss of his most important player mid-season. He also acted with class throughout his time with us. Only a simpleton would liken Parky to that bellend Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: All about opinions fella. With that squad in L1, he should have gone up, luckily we did. My point about Parkinson was when the financial shite really kicked in, imo he hid behind it all and told the fans and players we we didn't have the players and weren't good enough, massive mistake from a managerial perspective, it was like we accepted it (we did), others like Rooney and Wilder before him at Northampton in the same position showed how to manage a set of players in them conditions, got them playing and introduced a seige mentality. But eh, I'm a simpleton, who chats shit and who's opinions aren't valid. The first 2 seasons of massive overachievement (we'd all have been happy just to survive at the start of his !st season ) showed that Parky did create a "siege mentality " & he got the best out of the players he had to work with eg Madine,who had been hopeless the previous season under Lennon or Morais who hadn't even been in Bradford's 1st team squad. No manager in the world would have kept us up in his 3rd season with the club's off field collapse....Rooney is doing a good job at Derby but there's no comparison with the playing squad he's been working with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 My word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Zico said: He's on 90k a week in a no lose situation, no wonder he's sticking around Fair play on their results like, be very impressive if they stay up he cant be on that much with the shit they are in Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I'm struggling with "massive over achievement" by Parky in either of those seasons. He had a great squad by league one standards at that time, and he just managed to finish above Scunthorpe and Fleetwood. Trying to get the last few points we needed was painful, with the likes of ALF played out of position or not at all. In the championship, yes it was great to stay, but prior to the last 2 minutes of the season we had 40 points from 45 games, we finished just above Barnsley and Burton (thanks in part to Forest being on their hols). As bad as it was to watch Parkyball, I accept he had qualities, but I didn't see any overachievement, the points he got were at best just about acceptable taking into account resources and standard of opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, bolton va va said: The first 2 seasons of massive overachievement (we'd all have been happy just to survive at the start of his !st season ) showed that Parky did create a "siege mentality " & he got the best out of the players he had to work with eg Madine,who had been hopeless the previous season under Lennon or Morais who hadn't even been in Bradford's 1st team squad. No manager in the world would have kept us up in his 3rd season with the club's off field collapse....Rooney is doing a good job at Derby but there's no comparison with the playing squad he's been working with. Will always be grateful to any Bolton manager on promotion. If he’d of failed with that squad it would of been right up there with all the under achievements of my life time. We had people on over £20k a week in division 3. in regards to staying up. His teams were awful in the championship. His inability to use proven strikers properly was a disgrace and we only stayed up due to Barnsley and Burton being truly awful and he nearly cocked that up. That Steven Davies (Bradford) story about Parky summed him up. Soft as shit. Parky licked Ken’s arse as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 hours ago, tomski said: Will always be grateful to any Bolton manager on promotion. If he’d of failed with that squad it would of been right up there with all the under achievements of my life time. We had people on over £20k a week in division 3. in regards to staying up. His teams were awful in the championship. His inability to use proven strikers properly was a disgrace and we only stayed up due to Barnsley and Burton being truly awful and he nearly cocked that up. That Steven Davies (Bradford) story about Parky summed him up. Soft as shit. Parky licked Ken’s arse as well. 👏 Quality summary. We did get promotes and he should get some credit, but fuck me I reckon with the squad we had, anything else would have been criminal. Even then it wasn't guaranteed until the death. Can you imagine him with us at the start of last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 He is a dour fckr, who plays dour, dreadful football. But I'll always respect him for not taking bonus money he was due at a time when that could have tipped us over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: He is a dour fckr, who plays dour, dreadful football. But I'll always respect him for not taking bonus money he was due at a time when that could have tipped us over the edge. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 30, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 30, 2022 20 hours ago, little whitt said: he cant be on that much with the shit they are in Shirley Apparently so, which sums up why they're in the shit This article reckons he deferred some of his wages to pay the players instead https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13850321/wayne-rooney-derby-wage-deferral/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zico said: Apparently so, which sums up why they're in the shit This article reckons he deferred some of his wages to pay the players instead https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13850321/wayne-rooney-derby-wage-deferral/ Deferred, not written off. He’s such a generous bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 they play on sky at DINNER time might have a watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted January 30, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 30, 2022 He knows he will have to be paid in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, MickyD said: Deferred, not written off. He’s such a generous bloke. Either way, some wouldn't have done that. We had players who went on strike ffs. If he'd insisted we could have been a Bury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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