Duck Egg Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Surely the EFL must be at the point of issuing a final deadline and withdrawing the golden share? Even if they can prove they've got the funding to cover the next 2 years and I dont see how, they currently have just 5 contracted players and the fixtures are out Thursday. I wouldn't wish it on them but they do seem to be getting greater leeway than us or Bury got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Surely the EFL must be at the point of issuing a final deadline and withdrawing the golden share? Even if they can prove they've got the funding to cover the next 2 years and I dont see how, they currently have just 5 contracted players and the fixtures are out Thursday. I wouldn't wish it on them but they do seem to be getting greater leeway than us or Bury got. Understandable view. However the fixtures close to out & fixtures close to starting are quite different matters. The EFL though have finally lost some of their patience, & pointing out that whoever bids needs to be checked & they can't hide behind anonymity seems nbt (not before time). The difference between them now & us then was that bidders do seem to be available. We hoicked ourself around the World & got no takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: The difference between them now & us then was that bidders do seem to be available. We hoicked ourself around the World & got no takers. The difference between them and Bury perhaps, who had no serious bidders. We were issued a final warning while FV were in talks with the administrators. Agree re the fixtures though. Ours and Burys were out at the time and the league season had kicked off before they were expelled. Suggests Derby may have a few more weeks yet before things become critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 20, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 20, 2022 So, is the situation such that a club can be bought without EFL approval if the bidder wishes to remain anonymous I doubt they would, but could the EFL still boot a club out once purchased if the owner didn't pass a fit and proper test (in theory of course, everyone passes it) Seems odd that the bidder and admins don't want to let the EFL know who they are They should be allowed to remain private but still be looked into by the EFL before completing a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, Zico said: So, is the situation such that a club can be bought without EFL approval if the bidder wishes to remain anonymous I doubt they would, but could the EFL still boot a club out once purchased if the owner didn't pass a fit and proper test (in theory of course, everyone passes it) Seems odd that the bidder and admins don't want to let the EFL know who they are They should be allowed to remain private but still be looked into by the EFL before completing a deal It can't be, can it, really. I get that privacy may be wanted but not from the licencee ... the EFL ... surely, at the actual final stages. Formal procedings could be entered into with the legal proviso that the names aren't divulged. The Administrators have played a very odd game throughout all this. The EFL have sent in Trevor Birch to oversee things, now the Yank has finally pulled out, but he's being ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 20, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2022 Besides, there’s a rule that you can’t have a financial interest in more than one club. If the EFL allowed anonymity they wouldn’t be able to keep check on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 The EFL also own a golden share in each club so not sure how they can be ignored Also have to ask why would a buyer want the EFL excluded ? In terms of starting the season we were allowed to as we had a credible funding plan in place. Bury did not hence did not play any games. Assume same applies to Derby so makes it even stranger to think it is a good idea to exclude the EFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Surely the anonymity only applies up to the point where the sale is agreed and funds are shown / provided. the buyer would then need to be revealed in order for the EFL to conduct their fit and proper checks why any / all of the prospective buyers don’t want the EFL to know who they are at this moment in time seems pointless. Reckon it’s a ploy by the administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, barrycowdrill said: Surely the anonymity only applies up to the point where the sale is agreed and funds are shown / provided. the buyer would then need to be revealed in order for the EFL to conduct their fit and proper checks why any / all of the prospective buyers don’t want the EFL to know who they are at this moment in time seems pointless. Reckon it’s a ploy by the administrator The EFL wanted to be involved to save time. Have a look at the prospective owners and say yeah they will pass the test and we are confident of funding. Now they will have to wait until bid accepted by admins and will then be under pressure to read it through and then grant approval. Derby papers now saying virtually impossible to get takeover sorted before season starts. Only takes EFL to lose patience and in shit. Plus need £1.6 million to cover this months wages or 3 point deduction held over from 2020. Anyway fuck em Mel Morris caused this cheating fecker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Max Cherry said: The EFL wanted to be involved to save time. Have a look at the prospective owners and say yeah they will pass the test and we are confident of funding. Now they will have to wait until bid accepted by admins and will then be under pressure to read it through and then grant approval. Derby papers now saying virtually impossible to get takeover sorted before season starts. Only takes EFL to lose patience and in shit. Plus need £1.6 million to cover this months wages or 3 point deduction held over from 2020. Anyway fuck em Mel Morris caused this cheating fecker. They can stay in admin until next April apparently. As long as a) one of the prospective buyers props it up with the money needed whilst sale goes through (kirchner paid the last £1.6m) or b) admins fund it and add those fees on at the end either way they’ve got a while yet. Too many interested parties waiting for it to hit rock bottom for them not to be saved they will prob get a -15 though for not meeting the pennies in the pound to creditors in that situation Edited June 20, 2022 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, barrycowdrill said: They can stay in admin until next April apparently. As long as a) one of the prospective buyers props it up with the money needed whilst sale goes through (kirchner paid the last £1.6m) or b) admins fund it and add those fees on at the end either way they’ve got a while yet. Too many interested parties waiting for it to hit rock bottom for them not to be saved they will prob get a -15 though for not meeting the pennies in the pound to creditors in that situation -15 will do us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embankment Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 weeks till season starts,plenty of time to get sorted . But I as we know their fans are going through mental hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Hope they get sorted. A delay will see them finish well below us. That works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 20, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, tomski said: Hope they get sorted. A delay will see them finish well below us. That works. A few weeks playing 16 and 17 year olds please. They may even get a point against Coventry; we’ll give them the start we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, MickyD said: A few weeks playing 16 and 17 year olds please. They may even get a point against Coventry; we’ll give them the start we got. Tranmere fans celebrating the 5-0 like they’d beaten Real Madrid will long live with me. Similar to 1991. I hope we beat em but honestly don’t want to play against their kids like we had too. Some teams in the division really embarrassed themselves over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Kids are inevitable for a short while. 5 contracted players yet offering Barkhuizen £10k a week then they eventually get sorted 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Kids are inevitable for a short while. 5 contracted players yet offering Barkhuizen £10k a week then they eventually get sorted 👀 Really? Wheres that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Max Cherry said: Really? Wheres that from? Read numerous places tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Kids are inevitable for a short while. 5 contracted players yet offering Barkhuizen £10k a week then they eventually get sorted 👀 No wonder he wants to wait around for em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, tomski said: No wonder he wants to wait around for em. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Exactly Yep cross another off list. That's crazy money if true for injury prone Nobber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Would of thought there would be some sort of embargo for the new owners unless they pay all the creditors so 10k a week seems a lot till that get sorted even with new owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 22 hours ago, Max Cherry said: ... Plus need £1.6 million to cover this months wages or 3 point deduction held over from 2020. He did pay last month's, last week, apparently. Those players are largely now gone/leaving. They have, reports vary, 5 to 8 adult professionals & 2 of them want to clear off. So next month's outstanding wages are likely to be a fair bit lower 😅. Despite "£10k pw for Barkhuisen" noises, unless all debts are completely paid off they'll be under all sorts of constraints and embargoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 18 hours ago, barrycowdrill said: Kids are inevitable for a short while. 5 contracted players yet offering Barkhuizen £10k a week then they eventually get sorted 👀 but we have a pretty stadium and will win the league by 100 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 21, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Big E said: but we have a pretty stadium and will win the league by 100 points 94 points is technically the biggest possible winning margin, but that will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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