Dr. Feelgood Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The Wycombe owner has popped up today and said ... 1. I'll believe it when I see it. 2. Slippy characters & wouldn't believe a word they say. 3. Once they DO get a new owner we'll be having a word coz we're owed at least a season's loss of earnings. Ooops !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just reading they’re now hopeful of completing deals on the 10 players they had lined up barkhuizen james Chester connor Hourihane some big money there… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Makes you wonder where these new owners have been all along? 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 has he got the ground cheaper than other buyers? seems all a bit strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, gonzo said: Makes you wonder where these new owners have been all along? 🤷 probably after a better deal than what was originally on the table and want to save a few quid not buying out of season I'd imagine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big E said: has he got the ground cheaper than other buyers? seems all a bit strange Possibly as he is Mel Morris's mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Rooney apparently being investigated for paying the £1.8m running cost and wages bill this month.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 I’m not convinced it’s a done deal yet. No way can they have gone through the books so quickly almost a matter of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 More underhand shenanigans, undoubtedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: More underhand shenanigans, undoubtedly. Yeah suits everybody to rush it through now. Could be another Wigan scenario here re a quick rebound with money chucked about after admin. Looks like they could be up there as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Rooney apparently being investigated for paying the £1.8m running cost and wages bill this month.. Its Rooney's agent Stretford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, barrycowdrill said: Rooney apparently being investigated for paying the £1.8m running cost and wages bill this month.. Would that be, in any way, illegal or against EGL rules. "Concerned (ex) employee ensures funds are available to pay other employees wages whilst take over stalls". The shame of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Would that be, in any way, illegal or against EGL rules. "Concerned (ex) employee ensures funds are available to pay other employees wages whilst take over stalls". The shame of it. Morally no issue but we know where the EFL stands on morals.. if he has or as MK says it’s Stretford, either way what’s the difference in the money coming from them or potential buyers? kirchner put it up previously and ended up with as much control of the club as Rooney has.. zilch Edited June 29, 2022 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Would that be, in any way, illegal or against EGL rules. "Concerned (ex) employee ensures funds are available to pay other employees wages whilst take over stalls". The shame of it. I think there is an issue that they were allowed to continue/trade based on an agreed budget . someone sticking a load of money in potentially breaks this agreement. I think they are buying the ground, paying football creditors 100% up front and the rest 25p in the pound. I think meeting the liabilities up front means they will just be able to sign players. The EFL will have to sign off the business plan which is why the fact they may have broken an earlier deal could be important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ani said: I think there is an issue that they were allowed to continue/trade based on an agreed budget . someone sticking a load of money in potentially breaks this agreement. I think they are buying the ground, paying football creditors 100% up front and the rest 25p in the pound. I think meeting the liabilities up front means they will just be able to sign players. The EFL will have to sign off the business plan which is why the fact they may have broken an earlier deal could be important. The c.£1.8m was to ensure all running costs and wages were paid exactly the same as Kirchner did in May whilst pretending he could buy. He subsequently lost that money money hasn’t gone towards any creditors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: The c.£1.8m was to ensure all running costs and wages were paid exactly the same as Kirchner did in May whilst pretending he could buy. He subsequently lost that money money hasn’t gone towards any creditors I did not say it had.(or did not mean to !) Think I was using 'they' to describe whoever made the alleged £1.8m payment and the takeover group do not that clear Kircher put money in as a preferred bidder, all up front. As I understand the issue is that a third party needed to put in £1.8m to keep the day to day going. So having been presented with a budget a few months ago that was not delivered the EFL are likely to be cautious next time round. The payments to Creditors I mentioned are part of the new takeover and if made as proposed could see Derby able to trade without restrictions, like had or a points deduction. Edited June 29, 2022 by Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ani said: I did not say it had.(or did not mean to !) Think I was using 'they' to describe whoever made the alleged £1.8m payment and the takeover group do not that clear Kircher put money in as a preferred bidder, all up front. As I understand the issue is that a third party needed to put in £1.8m to keep the day to day going. So having been presented with a budget a few months ago that was not delivered the EFL are likely to be cautious next time round. The payments to Creditors I mentioned are part of the new takeover and if made as proposed could see Derby able to trade without restrictions, like had or a points deduction. Makes you wonder why the new third party (ie; the new preferred bidder) didn’t provide the funding like Kirchner did previously and it was left to Rooney / Stretford.. doesn’t bode well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 No longer in Admin and transfer embargo lifted but can only complete transfers in line with their agreed business plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, dave2980 said: ... can only complete transfers in line with their agreed business plan I wonder what the detail there is ? A wage cap ? A total spend cap ? Doubtless they'll break the rules sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Don't they still have to pay the creditors 25p £ to fully come out of the EFL embargo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Wullie said: Don't they still have to pay the creditors 25p £ to fully come out of the EFL embargo? They do. Maybe they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton in bedford Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Pleased they’re going to be okay as don’t want any club to go through what we did apart from three clubs. However, not so pleased that they have some manoeuvre in the transfer market as it’s likely to be another club to worry about at the top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, Wullie said: Don't they still have to pay the creditors 25p £ to fully come out of the EFL embargo? Which is still a bit shitty really let’s be honest. Don’t care if it makes me sound bitter but it’s pissed me off that another club has squirmed their way out of having a season of kids and misfits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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