Farrelli Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: I did spot this little gem on the Sunderland site that I thought summed us up "Bolton are all fart and no shite" Bit technical that for a Mackem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: I did spot this little gem on the Sunderland site that I thought summed us up "Bolton are all fart and no shite" Actually a bit of reality in that. Two league games on the bounce, playing well, having lots of ball, but not one goal. We must improve our end product- though Evatt is perfectly aware of that and will be doing all he can to correct it. A bit of normal refereeing last night though, and 1 or 2 nil would have provided enough shite and 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 7, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2021 sounds like we need to sign Sturridge sharpish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Whilst I find this a very interesting thread and looking at alternative views from other forums isn’t a new thing, I think that maybe there could be a playing to the audience from some of the comments posted. After all we have on here our own attention seeking look at me type of controversial posters. The DMB twat and hugecunt, spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 7, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Zico said: sounds like we need to sign Sturridge sharpish No need. We've pipped City to kane's signature, but too late to do it deadline day. Be here in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Duck Egg said: I did spot this little gem on the Sunderland site that I thought summed us up "Bolton are all fart and no shite" Classic Very good. Now they can fk off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty2094 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Right. Finally got to sit down for the night. Too much shit, not enough time. From Burton Ways, we have... Quote All I have to say at this time is Financial Fair Play Rules ! (albeit this might be something to do with them being on TV? Not sure. Quote At the minute I'd take a 0-0 as we're as flat as a pancake. Having a slow back four is pinning us back in our own half. Quote Brayford sent off. The ref has unfortunately been rather one sided, as you'd expect at a big away ground. Quote I've got to say I didn't enjoy much of that game and whilst delighted with a point we are not going to win many friends playing like that especially in front of the Sky cameras when we had a chance to show how good we can be. Quote The worrying thing is that if we had gone 1-0 down at any point in tonight's game it would've been game over. It's one thing not looking like scoring but it's almost as if we're more focused on defending than actually trying to score. Quote Let’s be honest. We stole a point there. Should have lost 3 or 4 nil, so we should be delighted. Quote Tonight confirmed that Blake Tracy shouldn't be near our starting XI Only on for 5 minutes but was absolutely brain dead and so lucky to not give a penalty Quote he gave to ref a decision to make by putting two hands on the players back, but I'm not sure from what I saw that there was sufficient a shove to make the player fall over like that. Not sure he was getting to it anyway as the ball looked like it was going over his head. Far from the absolute nailed on penalty that is being reported and I can see why the ref didn't give it. It was a foolish thing to do though. Quote All about angles for me. From the camera behind Blake-Tracey it looks bad. From the one facing the goal it looks reasonably innocuous and that Delfounso goes over much too easily. For the disallowed goal Doyle was offside and I felt impeded Garrett’s opportunity to make the save. The Sky pundits had strong views which probably influenced many. Quote Well , it's a point . Nothing to be positive about going forward . Quote I hate being negative, but that was poor. Quote Bolton as a club still with outstanding creditors to settle up they shouldn't even be in the league, I just wanted us not to let them take more than a point. Quote I think Bolton are a good side under Ian Evatt, more so than we have given credit for. They are 10 times our size and to come away from there with a point is still a good result. Quote Tonight for me was just not football the way I see it. To just set up not to lose a game, get behind the ball, stifle the opposition’s strengths at the expense of playing to ours. No. It’s not for me. We can do better. Or were Bolton just that good? Quote PS. There is a wonderful irony that Bolton fans are giving us grief for turning up and playing like that when Sam Allardyce basically created that way of playing, kept them in the top flight for a decade and got them into Europe off the back of it. Karma’s a bitch isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty2094 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 And now for Mackem ways... PRE MATCH Quote We’re forever denied the opportunity to see Declan John play (Were they linked or something? What's the connection?) Quote So we're looking for a Bolton win here... Quote Interested in this one. See how good a lot of peoples dark horse Bolton are. Quote We’re Bolton we’re barmeh we’re on the piss tonight! DURING Quote I know it's the same when we're playing too, but bloody hell the standard of football in this divison is absolutely putrid, isn't it? It's borderline unwatchable for a neutral. Quote Santos from bolton ment be class Quote it takes commitment to watch a match in this division when it’s not Sunderland playing mind. Ranks pretty low on the entertainment scale. Quote It’s not an easy watch *a few posts about the ref being a wanker for the offside call* Quote How’s that been ruled out he’s nowhere near the keeper? Quote Disgraceful decision, perfectly good goal. Quote No way was that offside not a chance he was interfering with the keeper Quote It’s a joke man. If you’re not 100% sure let a perfectly well created and finished goal stand Quote Disgraceful decision to disallow it. Bolton very impressive, to be honest we battered these but failed to score, god knows how. Quote If either of these teams finish within 25 points of us, we will have failed in doing our own job. Quote Bolton look a good footballing side. Quote Impressed with Bolton, how that got disallowed is a disgrace, only thing I can think is the linesman thought he touched it before it went in. My luck like, backed Bolton Quote Ian Evatt highley rated manager at this level Quote 100% given offside because of the reaction of the goalkeeper and Burton players. Quote Bolton could be ones to watch this season. Quote The Bolton striker has a honking touch. Also, the quality of the “crosses” is making me think I should be far less critical of Lynden Gooch. Quote As poor as they’ve been going forward Burton have defended well. Final ball from Bolton has let them down Quote Very little quality displayed from either team. Quote Never been so confident we are going up this year, these two are some of the better sides and are abysmal. Quote That number 5 for Bolton is absolutely shite Quote That Kachunga doesn’t seem to have much desire to attack a ball mind. Quote Bolton’s defence is really dodgy. Quote As if the referee missed that. Quote Where’s the ref from or he’s had pound on Burton Quote That’s a push. Penna surely Quote This ref is absolutely useless. He was a chef he would confuse the spoon and fork. Quote Burton very tenacious, Bolton, for all the ball they had, clueless. Quote Bolton players heading ability certainly lacking in the the last 10 minutes. Glorious chances went begging. Quote You looked superb. A real threat to the league for the season to come Quote bolton played really well but your strikers are very poor.. Quote Got to say I thought Bolton looked a very decent side. Lacked a finisher, but play football on the deck, plenty pace, and strong overall. My Ipswich mate thinks they're gonna bladder you Satday, but what he vases that on, I have no idea. Quote i can only coment on what i saw last night.. that sarcevic is dreadfull.. i asumed he was a striker.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Nice one. Sunderlandways seem to like us. Burton were dogshit but if we can't break teams like that down we're going to struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWFC_LOVE Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, matty2094 said: And now for Mackem ways... PRE MATCH (Were they linked or something? What's the connection?) RE Declan John; they had him on loan until January last season. He never played a minute for them, which is when we took him for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 07/09/2021 at 22:33, stevieb said: Nice one. Sunderlandways seem to like us. Burton were dogshit but if we can't break teams like that down we're going to struggle. I think it's more they hate Burton for beating them with one shot on target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Surprised at some of the comments about Santos, yes he had a bit of a mare second half and got away with it but other than that seemed dominant against everything and passing was all good too. Burton with the classic jibes about our finances that everyone is clearly an expert on. Didn't know much about Burton's style of play before they played us but I wouldn't have expected a Dutch striker in JFH to be one to play the shithouse way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 9, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2021 Not arsed about someone's style of play, it's up to them. Biggest surprise was how little they offered, even playing the long ball. Any style can be effective if done well, they just didn't. Perhaps that was testament to how well we played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty2094 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 I’m out at the Brisca Stock Car World Final tonight so will get this done in the morning. In the meantime though, I’ll leave you with this from pre-match… “They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, matty2094 said: I’m out at the Brisca Stock Car World Final tonight so will get this done in the morning. In the meantime though, I’ll leave you with this from pre-match… “They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough.” They were right. It wasn't tough. for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Ian Evatts super white army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 11, 2021 Members Share Posted September 11, 2021 E I E I E I O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Looking forward to this one Matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2021 The loud boos from the Ipswich fans as the 5th went in were sweet music. Insult us all they want after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If you pop onto the forums, it's mainly about the state of the club, nothing to do with us. They've got enough problems to sort out rather than just one match. For me this 'rivalry' ended when we went up and stayed there for years with European trips, top half finishes etc whilst they had a shit time. They 'won' the battle, we certainly won the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2021 I've never had a problem with Ipswich. It's B.K I can't stand. The man is a blatant cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post matty2094 Posted September 12, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 Morning all. They seem to like starting a new thread at every opportunity over on Tractor Boys ways so this may end up being a little bit disjointed but I'll try my best. I've had to go through 7(!) pages worth of threads from the past 24 hours PRE-MATCH (some posts about THAT game too) Quote (talking about last time we played them) Oh christ, I'd forgotten that. That was the game where I realised Hurst was miles out of his depth. We barely got a shot off against an already terrible Bolton team, down to 10 men from early on. Quote Today will either be feast or famine - that is what it feels like. Given the situation Bolton were in, they have come back with a pretty admirable team and manager in a short time. Quote always makes me laugh when you hear them / Fat Sam bleating about that night. You love to see it. Quote I genuinely believe that Sam lost them that match. He sent them out ridiculously fired up. My view is that they were at least our equals but lost because of this. Quote made mates with a Bolton fan on holiday last week, aged 41.... when we got talking, ITFC came up, he put face in hands "fcking jim magilton, barry knight!".... telling me how he was in his prime at that time and was a home/away weekly.... few days later I saw him sat in the shade watching his phone, waved me over..... he was watching the highlights of the PO semi. he said "actually, whatever way you look at them, they are penalties, and sendings off" think it was that they all came in one game that they found/find it so hard to accept. Quote It was definitely a game where you felt the ref was on our side. I don't think a lot of the decisions he made were all that wrong, but back then - no ref would have seen/given all that they did that night - he was either a ref with superpowers, or a closet Ipswich fan. Quote Bolton lost their heads, and it wasnt that ref was favouring Town at all, Bolton were giving him very easy decisions to make, you had Whitlow kicking anyone who came near him, he even kicked out at Magilton to put him off for the 2nd penalty, which we missed btw so it worked, and why Clapham took that 3rd one, but Id argue it was favouring Bolton that he and some of their players even stayed on the pitch for 90mins at all. Quote In the theatre for a 2:30 showing so will miss today. You can guarantee a 3-0 win, let's hope it is the start of something incredible. Quote What you seeing? I love the theatre, truly do, but 2-30 on a Saturday when we're due to give somebody a stomping? Quote I think Bolton are a step up from what we’ve played so far. And will have a lot of possession. Tough to get the much needed win. Quote They were in League 2 last season one year removed from being a full blown basket case. Let's not talk this fixture up as being tough. Quote Oh herbz. You keep forgetting these clubs are league 1 clubs the same as us. What league they were in is irrelevant to what and who they are now We dont even know yet what level our squad as a squad even is let alone feel the right to find all opponents as little due to where they once were. Quote They're in League 1, ergo they aren't that good at football or they'd be higher than League 1. Stop viewing being a League 1 side as being some sort of badge of honour ffs, it's pathetic. Quote We are league 1 because we havent been good at it They got back to league 1 due to a promotion so showed they were good at winning games of football more than others. I still believe we will win tomorrow. And I hope our run begins with it. However the OP is within their rights to say this is probably our toughest task this season so far. Quote Watched bits from the Burton game on Monday night and he did look a very decent defender - imposing, strong and decent with the ball. If Bolton don’t go up, I’m sure there will be clubs from the Championship looking to take Santos off their hands. Quote Santos was absolutely rubbish on Monday against Burton (as were Bolton despite having a bit of possession). He looked a bomb scare and nearly gifted them two goals clumsily trying to play out from the back. If he presents the same chances to our array of talent they won’t get away with it. He’s rights about the attack though. It was toothless, they won’t lay a glove on us. We’re going to smash them. 4-0 I think. They lost to Cambridge Utd and drew at home to 10 man Burton in their last two games, failing to score in both. Fancy trying to talk them up as some sort of challenge. Quote They may be a step up, but we hav3 a team and squad that should be a cut above them. In all honesty, is there a club in Lg 1 with a better squad than ours this year? Quote Absolutely not. There’s barely another first eleven that is as good on paper as our second eleven. Quote Was sharing someone else’s view on Santos. Every report about him I’ve read has been positive, great stats, he was up for League Two player of the season. Let’s see how he fairs today, hope he does gift us a goal. Bolton have won 2 games, and drawn 3. We have drawn 3 games. We have no divine right to win. Bolton in my view are better than Morecombe and Cheltenham as the table states. Quote You win games by having the better team, having more desire to win and having the better system of play. No one can argue we don’t have the best squad by some way, and far superior to Bolton. Quote With the squad we've assembled and the resource we've expended on doing so we absolutely should be bullish and should be swatting the likes of Bolton aside with ease. Quote Got a bad feeling about this one. Bolton sound like they've found a good rhythm to their play, put a good run of results in going back a fair old way and generally are pretty upbeat about life. Quote We're going to pump them you bunch of wet wipes. POST Quote Yeah Bolton are shit... they have several good players but critically they have found a way to easily break through our system… it’s technical, it’s clever… we had adjusted to it…. As in close the space between our midfield and our defence … but they sprung it again Quote 7 goals. Football is an entertainment business. What more do you want? Quote Looking forward to a season in League Two so we can reset… Quote We look like a relegated side. Quote Left after the 5th yes I repeat 5th Bolton goal. We now have so many players that he doesn’t know what to do with them .fair play to Bolton they totally outplayed us , look fitter , more organised and harder working Quote The idiots on this board stating Bolton would be easy?! And we should swipe them away. They had a great shape, movement and good players in their centre backs, deep playmaker, and wingers Quote We've got what is allegedly a championship standard squad. At very least, we shouldn't be abjectly losing to these teams. This division is utter toss. Quote Even the most optimistic of Town fan should be very very concerned by that. It was so so easy for Bolton today, didn’t have to get out of 1st gear. Quote It's not particularly clear what we're trying to do off the ball and it doesn't look like the players really know either. Bolton had Isgrove and Afolayan pushed right to the edge of the pitch and our full backs had no idea whether they should be going out to them or staying narrow, and whichever one they chose it was mis-timed and there was rarely a midfielder covering the empty space. Quote Atmosphere was decent, but concede a third at home to Bolton is going to test any fan. Then, we managed to concede another two. Quote Yet again today you have to ask what on earth they’ve been doing on the training ground this last few weeks. Shape at the back was terrible and Bolton worked out immediately how to exploit us. Really poor managerial performance again. Quote Tactically and technically Bolton were better than us today without a doubt Agree Dart some of the space between deep midefield and defence was completely unacceptable Quote The defence seem so open and every Bolton attack looked like a goal. The goalie looked very nervous and didn't have a great game. Quote Trouble is with playing your full backs as wingers is the gaps you leave, Bolton ruthlessly exploited this today. Evatt knew the game plan Quote As for the match, that was the worst defensive display I’ve seen from any team ever. Including Germany’s against Brazil (7-1) and Southampton’s against Leicester (9-0). Far too much space. Far too much time. Bolton walked rings around us and I honestly don’t know if our lads even cared that it was happening. No urgency, no desire, no heart. And then to sum it all up, Cook brings on Jackson - a player he forced to train in the under 23s for the last year. Quote That’s not a defence at all, as I’m still fuming today, but Bolton are the first team to come and do a complete number on us rather than simply taking advantage of mistakes or a lack of organisation. Quote For what its worth, I thought Bolton looked good yesterday, or did we make them look good... Quote And how are we going to beat the better teams when we can't beat the sh1t ones? Only MK Dons have looked decent, though Bolton at times looked okay largely because of the dreadful way we were set up and Cook's inability to tactically change things Quote It was so bad. We’ve got enough quality in attacking areas that we’ll score goals and create problems for teams, but defensively, organisationally and tactically we look dire. Not just yesterday either, it’s been evident all season yet seemingly not addressed at all and pulled apart with ease by a decent Bolton side. Quote Today was out thought by Evatt . Evatt picked out where our weakness was and also had inside knowledge of how Cook likes his teams to play through his time playing and captaining for Cook at Chesterfield. He knew where the weakness in the system was and exploited it , while Cook did nothing to counteract it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 12, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) One or two credit Bolton for being streets ahead as individuals and a team. The rest are deluded fuckers. Edited September 12, 2021 by MickyD Premature send Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 The pre-match quote eighth from the bottom is outstanding. Simply as wrong as it's possible to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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