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Amazed we have sold over 4K tickets, for a game most people are saying how many they would be happy to lose by. 
 

The idea of that silly cunt packing his 'Evatt Out ' flag is truly pathetic. He said he was only getting it if the performance merited it. Not sure what he deems 'acceptable'. 

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5 minutes ago, Ani said:

Amazed we have sold over 4K tickets, for a game most people are saying how many they would be happy to lose by. 
 

The idea of that silly cunt packing his 'Evatt Out ' flag is truly pathetic. He said he was only getting it if the performance merited it. Not sure what he deems 'acceptable'. 

Anyone 18 or around that age won’t likely of been to a prem ground.

 

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14 minutes ago, tomski said:

Anyone 18 or around that age won’t likely of been to a prem ground.

 

Aye I have been dragged in as my mates lads who are 20 and 17 are desperate to go. He is having to work till quite late so only down there for 7. I get there with Yoof about 4. 

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8 minutes ago, Ani said:

Aye I have been dragged in as my mates lads who are 20 and 17 are desperate to go. He is having to work till quite late so only down there for 7. I get there with Yoof about 4. 

Few pints in London. Perfect. Enjoy

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49 minutes ago, BeeversLeftPeg said:

First visit in 15 years for me today. The one before that was a Champions League 6 pointer.

Same here (as in last visit, not going tonight)

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21 hours ago, Ani said:

Amazed we have sold over 4K tickets, for a game most people are saying how many they would be happy to lose by. 
 

The idea of that silly cunt packing his 'Evatt Out ' flag is truly pathetic. He said he was only getting it if the performance merited it. Not sure what he deems 'acceptable'. 

Sure that account is a WUM mate 

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Forgot to do Crawley! Posts taken from https://ctfcfansforum.freeforums.net/

Pre-Match

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Crawley 6 Bolton 0
We are going to rip a team apart soon and why not Bolton

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Crawley 2 Bolton 1
 

That's what I would hope for too. Although Bolton won well at weekend, glad they did not lose, as we tend to lose against a team on a losing streak.

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I think we will be okay against the Frankensteins so long as we gain an early Cushing.
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Bolt-ons 1 Creepies 2

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Crawley 0 Bolton 6
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As our XG doesn't get anywhere near actual goals

Us 1 Them 2

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Have always been a follower of Glasgow Rangers and Scott Arfield was a legend for them.

Am sure he’ll be part of the squad on Saturday, will be hard to shout abuse at him but I guess I’ll have to do duty and oblige anyway!

A seriously experienced campaigner who plays as an attacking midfielder who can score.

I guess he will be just one of our problems on Saturday, even coming on as a sub, but I can see us doing well regardless.

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If Lindsay leaves I think we will be turned over , Bolton are in a false position and if we are managerless we will struggle.
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Managerless Crawley 0 Bolton 10
Im serious. We are getting relegated with SL.

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{clutch at straws mode on}
The only shred of comfort considering the likely news today is that Bolton play Arsenal away tonight in the Carabao cup, so they may take that match a lot more seriously than Saturday’s match.
{clutch at straws mode off}

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Everet made it clear Sat is the priority and he's playing the reserves tonight. They are also staying down here till Sat to prepare.

They will massacre us Saturday.

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Just checked Bolton only have three players who started Saturday in their 5 - 2 v Reading starting tonight v Arsenal He's rested most of his starting eleven.

They come at us like dogs out the traps, press hard we will crumble and mess up and they will score a load . Just watch.

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Admit it will be a struggle on Saturday, but some of these score predictions are ridiculous. I am sure the team and Ben will do the best they can to get a result.
 

ok agreed 8-0 maybe not but can you honestly say 4-0 or 5-0 is unrealistic?

 

DURING

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Bolton fans already here and in the Redz bar and surround. Going to be a great atmosphere today.
 
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Better side in the first half, but losing.

Same story.

Ref is incompetent as is the linesman West Stand side.

Ref is allowing Bolton players ref the match for him.

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Complete utter shambles conceeding then again nearly staright after. Players need to take responsibility and Williams needs to organise the defence i.e. captain! After that we grew in confidence from what looked like could be 5-0 at HT; instead we can claw the 1-0 goal back, but must have more goal attempts for all the possession around their box. We are being beaten by pace on both wings which is a worry, but we've clearly rattled these cheating dirty northerners at times. Their manager carded. Would like to hear Gladwin get involved more. Kelly playing a level beyond everyone and JoJo has kept us in this game. We attack the BW end next and need the crowd to lift the team. HT Reds 0 Dirty Northerners 1

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and ref allowing BW take forever on goal kicks fk throw-ins
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Typical Crawley keep the ball move it well until the final third and then we struggle. Throw in the usual soft goal or two from the opositon and repeat..

 

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So frustrating yet again! Nice passing interchanges by Crawley but up front we are just non existent. Did not look close to scoring
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There number five could have defended our front line on his own today. Powder puff dosent describe it, I am not even sure we could claim to be firing blanks, we weren't shoouting three on target which were just tame efforts . They scored two from three clinical efforts and frankly we were lucky they hit the bar in first half injury time.

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Bolton no. 23 Schon is an embarressment to being a 'professional' footballer. Complete cvnt and 5cumbag. Worst simulation I have ever seen. You are a cheat.
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Personally thought that could have finished 0-5 today. We need to improve.

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Bolton no. 23 Schon is an embarressment to being a 'professional' footballer. Complete cvnt and 5cumbag. Worst simulation I have ever seen. You are a cheat.
 

Have to agree there, I was livid at his antics.

Screamed like a child when he went down. Didn’t see too many of his teammates share his frustration.

We are not a dirty team, yet not just him but his teammates made out that we were fouling them all over the shop whilst they did the same, but just more expertly.

 

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This quote from the Norts forum was brilliant .....

 

How did the referee only allow 7 minutes added time, 30 seconds allowance for each of the 10 substitutions is 5 minutes plus the time for treatment to their 'keeper and a long delay for Mbete's injury it should have been much more. We scored twice in the first 3 minutes and given the correct added time we could have salvaged a 4-4 draw.

Finally, where were the Bolton supporters? They took the full allocation of 1473 and had said they had sold the bulk of them yet they only brought 633.

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Cobblers away. Posts taken from https://www.smfserver.com/forums/thehotelend/index.php/topic,23443.0.html

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Love a game under the lights etc.  Home to Bolton tomorrow night and so far they’ve not showed much more than we have albeit two points ahead of us currently. Still they’re a big club and should bring a decent away following with a 1473 allocation given.

No Jay Jay Okocha or Djorkaeff featuring and no indication that Vernon Kay will be there.

Expecting a dirty game with no quarter given, 1-0 win in the 99th minute.

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As its still p*ssing down, any chance of being off?


no

*enter Wanderers fan, Mr Blobby*

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Hi guys, looking forward to the game tonight but let’s hope this rain stops and doesn’t spoil things. We’ve had a lousy start so far, Evatt trying to be clever changing everything after our Wembley disaster but at least he’s admitted he got it completely wrong in our opening games which is quite something for him! We seem to be back on track now so will definitely be expecting to win tonight though we know it will be far from easy. It would be nice to see Eaves in tonight, he never really got much of a chance when he was at the Reebok so it would be good to see your giant against our giant Santos and see who comes off best. Anyway let’s hope it’s a good game and isn’t spoiled by poor refereeing as so many are? I think we’ve pretty much sold out our allocation so it should be a good atmosphere too as long as you don’t go and spoil it by winning!! 😁

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Ah Mr Blobby, I am just trying to weigh up the relative merits of the "big" teams in the division, how did you get on against Huddersfield? Do you see yourselves up there with them as promotion contenders?

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Ah Mr Blobby, I am just trying to weigh up the relative merits of the "big" teams in the division, how did you get on against Huddersfield? Do you see yourselves up there with them as promotion contenders?

I think the jury’s still out on us yet Bingers, we had an awful start culminating in that atrocious defeat to Huddersfield  but I think that was mainly down to Evatt completely upturning the team and playing just two in midfield. The furore from the fans was immense and indeed Evatt was lucky to keep his job after criticising the fans as being like a black cloud since Wembley. He immediately returned to the normal set up and results obviously have improved. For ages though the fans have been critical of his playing out slowly slowly from the back and holding possession but in our own half. He seems to accept now that possession is pointless unless you do something with it so at Crawley we let them have more of the ball and tightened up at the back allowing our pacy forwards to hit them on the break. In fairness we should have won more convincingly at Crawley as their keeper made two cracking saves from Charles and Dempsey was so unlucky hitting the underside of the bar. I’m expecting a similar set up tonight although I’d expect you to be a little more dangerous than Crawley were. Like I said the jury’s still out on us but I believe other than Birmingham we have probably the best squad in L1 so as long as Evatt uses it well I still see the automatics as within our grasp. 🤷‍♂️

 

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As Huddersfield beat Bolton 4-0 and we beat Huddersfield 3-1 logic says we should win tonight 7-1.
Not much history with Bolton and our games rarely end in draws with just 2 from the 15 games, 5 wins for us and 8 for them. At home we have won 2, drawn 1 (last season) and lost 4, I well remember beating them 4-0 in our 1965-66 season in the top flight.
After an iffy start Bolton have won their last 2 games and I watched just over an hour of their game at Crawley when I was surprised that they conceded possession to Crawley (68.6%) although Crawley were impotent up front. Surprisingly Bolton have failed to score in 4 of their 7 games despite having some decent strikers.

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I've got a very good feeling about tonight's game mark my words.

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This could be a very long night. Could be 0-3 already.

We’re not out the starting blocks yet.

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We look leggy and incapable of measuring a pass on a wet surface.

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Brady out!!!
 
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And its now 2-0. A long night ahead.
 
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Embarrassing

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This is like watching Cogenhoe Utd Under 12s v Real Madrid.

Im done for today

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Well this is fecking awful so far

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We are making it so easy for them!

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time and space all over tge oark, totally disorganised and just giving the ball  back to them. Sodding awful.

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Bolton won't have an easier half.

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FFS 3-0.  Angry

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Bolton haven't even been that good. We've just been properly, properly bad. Amateur defending, perhaps the worst under Brady's reign.

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This could get embarrassing. Wasn't happy with the team selection - couldn't see us scoring. Still can't. Would love to be proved wrong.

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For me, Bolton have been impressive - a good division more accomplished than we are. They aren't sitting back either.

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Ah brilliant, now our best player so far this season has done his hamstring. The left-back curse continues. What a truly miserable night.

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Shocking defending all night, we have no pace in defence, all teams have to do is bang tge ball down pitch to cause panic in our defence.

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4-0 and people are walking out.

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You'd be surprised if Birmingham & Bolton aren't the top two.

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You'd be surprised if Birmingham & Bolton aren't the top two.


Same Bolton that Huddersfield beat 4-0?Huh

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Why is anyone surprised? They are a very well funded, well supported side. Ignore the fact that they reside in the same league as use. Because that is where the similarity stops. We have to be realistic. We are not in their ball park. Slagging Brady off for not beating a Ferrari in is Fiesta is ridiculous…

When teams that well funded come alive you’re bòlloxed.

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Bolton are just a much better side than us, simple fact

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I thought any points tonight would be a bonus but 4 points from our first 4 home games against Exeter, Burton, Wycombe and Mansfield was very disappointing and ought to have been more like 8.

How did the referee only allow 7 minutes added time, 30 seconds allowance for each of the 10 substitutions is 5 minutes plus the time for treatment to their 'keeper and a long delay for Mbete's injury it should have been much more. We scored twice in the first 3 minutes and given the correct added time we could have salvaged a 4-4 draw.

They were clearly better than us and we get caught out with balls over the top (2nd goal) or threaded through for players running through. How did a corner come straight across the face of goal for their 3rd goal? You also have to remember that their 2 first choice strikers were on the bench. Up to 90 minutes we did not look like scoring and I don't recall their 'keeper having to make a decent save. I thought McCarron did very well when he came on and probably created more down the left flank than Fosu did.

Finally, where were the Bolton supporters? They took the full allocation of 1473 and had said they had sold the bulk of them yet they only brought 633.

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If any of the top funded sides turn up on their day, including Huddersfield we are in trouble. You are playing in effect against mid level championship players, due to the wages they attract. If the top funded side gels on that day, a team that is funded at lower league one level, is going to get opened up and exposed. If people can't understand the vast difference and gulf between us and them in quality, I'm not sure what else I can say. Losing is always disappointing. But we simply do not have the tools at our disposal to take on an on song Bolton side. At an estimation I would say they are funded at least six times above what we are. Occasionally we might give sides like that a bit of an issue, but on the whole we are real trouble if they are playing to their standard.

Their will always be rare exceptions. But generally the rule favours the better financed sides.

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Very sensible post Tel, there is two leagues within a league, there’s us, Crawley, Burton, Cambridge, Shrewsbury and Stevenage etc and then the likes of Bolton, Birmingham, Charlton, Wrexham etc like you say the disparity in quality of players is vast.
Having said all that, getting pumped 4 at home is never good.

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A very disappointing night all around. A heavy home defeat in awful conditions and with what looked to be a really bad injury for Mbete, would be staggered if he is not out for several months as he looked in real pain (speedy recovery Luke!).

Im not going to go too over the top after a defeat to a clearly really good side who played some slick football at times (there first goal looked offside in real time though?).

 

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Posts taken from https://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/107646/bolton-match-thread. Apologies for the grim colour - that's what SalopWays adopt annoyingly.

PREMATCH

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No backup keeper again. Is he injured?

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Well, everybody wanted change....now you've got it....simple as🤷🤷

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I have little hope for today but I like that team.

Bench looks very strong, hopefully we can use it before 80 minutes

 

DURING

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Ref is worrying me, giving them everything he can

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How has Shipley not been getting minutes recently…

What a stunning first half hour, flabbergasted.

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I’m in Heaven! This is bonkers!

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Would someone kindly tell me what on earth is going on ....?

COYB
COYB

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Didn't we do exactly the same routine left footed rocket from corner against them a few months ago?

Wow

Edit. We did!

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We just to make sure we only make 2 defensive mistakes to get a point COYB

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Really fancy us for a draw now.

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Ref is giving them decisions they are not even appealing for , corrupt

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Another game another decent first half performance.

Sat too deep the last 10 minutes but hopefully Hurst sorts that out. The outcome of this game will come down to how Hurst deals with the changes Bolton make and how we use our subs.

Ref is poor, giving them everything and giving out yellow cards to Town players at every opportunity.

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Ref is giving them decisions they are not even appealing for , corrupt
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That is an utter disgrace of a whistle.

 

Listening to Radio Shropshire, that is the impression I get too....

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Would have liked to have been a fly on the wall for the Bolton HT team talk.

Thank goodness we got two in the first half.

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third game in a row were the ref has given us nothing and the opposition everything

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Can we just keep hold of the fecking ball for more than 2 seconds it would help!

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No idea why Bolton made changes they are battering us

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The Bolton subs have actually helped us!

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This ref is shocking. Stops the game when we are through on goal!

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Ref has robbed us there

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We were clean through in goal , he whistles to give us a free kick

I was joking earlier about him being corrupt
, now I'm Not so sure

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Nice one Ian Evatt you thug, you got what you deserved there.

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Very respectable point although bittersweet after the half time score. Bolton fans will be fuming about their dropped points.

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Ah well, if you had offered me a point before the game I would’ve bitten your hand off, but that felt like a loss!

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Bolton subs ruined their flow.

Shocked we ended the game with 11 men, the ref was all Bolton and robbed us of a 1-1 opportunity by blowing up for the foul.
 

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Absolute elite class s**thousery by Morgan there. **** off evatt you former fat c***.

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I have to say I thought they would win it but all credit to salop for the way we defended. It was 11 players who played their socks off especially against Bolton and the ref.

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I think Nurse had cramp. I suspect the "injury" was a bit of time wasting and we had all intention of subbing him off around the hour mark.

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frustrating decison from the ref which prevented a possible goal. we have had three ref on the row who dont seem to give us anything but the opposition everything. we really dont seem to be getting any luck this season.

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Totally agree Pilch, spot on, referee was a total disgrace today, been a long long time since I’ve seen a shocker like that

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Yes, happy to get a point woth a great backs-to-the wall performance but boy oh boy what a dreadful decision by the ref to give us a free kick when Ojo was through. One of the worst decisions I've seen. Bizarre. Inexplicable. Shockingly inept. And Evatt? What a plonker to be sent off after ranting at the ref. He gave Bolton nearly everything.

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Saw the Evatt red card on a livefeed - it was a minute or so behind the radio commentary so I looked out for it.

It looked nasty from Evatt on Feeney, though Morgan didn't back down. - You'd expect better from a manager but there you go I suppose.

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I predicted a draw on here at half time which I find sad that I had no confidence that we could hold onto a two goal lead based on our second half performances this season. Don't know if it's a fitness thing or wrong tactics from the Manager at half time in games. Pleased however with a point especially with the referee against us as well. Hopefully the referees assessor will have seen what we saw.

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Shout out to the fans who travelled though

They were the only ones singing for large parts of the game... big effort

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We were so good for 25 minutes or so, and then the quality started to tell and it always felt like if they scored early enough they’d turn it around and win it.

Therefore, somehow, thanks to the timings of the goals, it still felt like a point gained rather than two points lost, which is a bit mad really.

Our squad is nowhere near the level of Bolton’s and that’s why we can be thankful for today’s draw. The run of games coming up though, that’s the time to step up. What a great point to build on, if we are able to beat those around us.

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And totally agree, I was completely perplexed at full time, why were Bolton kicking off!? Referee gave them absolutely everything all game, he was a disgrace

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Absolutely, 19,000 home fans barely made a peep first half and second wasn’t much better, Town fans who supported during these difficult circumstances were a credit to the club 👍

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The ref played exactly 8 minutes extra time despite a sub and an injury happening during it. I assume that's what they was moaning about. It was probably more frustration that they could not get a winner.

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what they was moaning about. It was probably more frustration that they could not get a winner.
 

it was actually a couple of seconds short of 8 mins which was as barmy as the 8 minutes ws initially ,   the ref was out of his depth,   some harsh early yellows from him too,  Pierres was for sure,   and 2 for wasting time,   one for Savin for checking the ball was correctly settled after a long stoppage,   another another for a throw which wasnt wasting time any more than an average throw

 

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