Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 09:03, Whitesince63 said: Would think they’d sort out a deal with Hutch before the season ends and I’d be surprised if they don’t also look to keep Edwards if he’s fit after his injuries. Shame about Denis but clearly there’s something missing between him and IE. I think Edwards will go. In fact, I'd be astonished if we offer him a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 20:51, Leyther_Matt said: It was extended for the full season a while ago, I think. Getting better with every game and showing a real maturity. Or maybe it wasn’t extended….! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 Hopefully a place on the bench or another loan at a higher level for Hutchinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Traf Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Bye, Liam, thanks for everything you contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 9, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2022 Crikey. The lad looked excellent when he was thrust in all things considered.. Suffered a terrible injury. Not been able to contribute anything since. Presumably Baptiste will finish this season, so there maybe an opportunity here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted January 9, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2022 Great assist by Politic for Vale’s consolation yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Steejay said: Great assist by Politic for Vale’s consolation yesterday. Agree but he was a sub again though. If he cannot command a regular starting place there yet, then he’s no use to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I don't follow that logic. Vale are a handful of places below us, why can't a sub in a top 6 league 2 team be a sub for a league one team that has forgotten how to score? Would Thomasson get in Vale's starting team? A year ago he was on our bench and we were 17th in league 2, now he starts in league one. Would Doyle, John, Gordon, Dixon or Delf get games for Vale? I think we have to realise where we are at present, there aren't a lot of EFL teams worse than us on current form and plenty league 2 players would improve us, and probably some from the national league if the Boreham Wood and Stockport teams are anything to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 I agree Johnny. They're doing well, and he's had a couple or injuries and fitness problems. Perfectly feasible that he could offer something to us. However, it's Evatt's decision, and if he's not for signing that will influence his thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 From watching colls no doubt that Liam Hutchinson is a good shot stopper and a very commanding keeper claiming crosses but it’s his kicking that is letting him down at moment in my opinion. Can’t see him being number 1 for the time being mutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Mutley said: From watching colls no doubt that Liam Hutchinson is a good shot stopper and a very commanding keeper claiming crosses but it’s his kicking that is letting him down at moment in my opinion. Can’t see him being number 1 for the time being mutley Said on another thread. I saw him at Chester preseason and his passing and general awareness on the edge of his box was exceptional Have you seen him play ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/12/21/west-brom-to-permit-goalkeeper-alex-palmer-to-leave-on-loan/ This is who we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutley Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Seen him play probably 15 times, just my personal opinion. I would like to see Gilks back in the team personally as I think he’s more than good enough for league one. His organisation of the defence is infectious and not to be overlooked mutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted January 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mutley said: Seen him play probably 15 times, just my personal opinion. I would like to see Gilks back in the team personally as I think he’s more than good enough for league one. His organisation of the defence is infectious and not to be overlooked mutley Today’s announcement has ended Gilks’ playing career. He now needs to coach these goalies how to shout loudly. steejay Edited January 10, 2022 by Steejay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 20 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: I don't follow that logic. Vale are a handful of places below us, why can't a sub in a top 6 league 2 team be a sub for a league one team that has forgotten how to score? Would Thomasson get in Vale's starting team? A year ago he was on our bench and we were 17th in league 2, now he starts in league one. Would Doyle, John, Gordon, Dixon or Delf get games for Vale? I think we have to realise where we are at present, there aren't a lot of EFL teams worse than us on current form and plenty league 2 players would improve us, and probably some from the national league if the Boreham Wood and Stockport teams are anything to go by. I'm not unsympatheitc to your argument but it's not simply about the number of leagues places between the two clubs. The opposition he'd face after returning to us would be stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm not unsympatheitc to your argument but it's not simply about the number of leagues places between the two clubs. The opposition he'd face after returning to us would be stronger. Port Vale fans off twitter say he's been great off the bench but not as good playing 90 minutes. Sounds perfect for us He's had a few niggles and strains too recently, holding him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I'm not unsympatheitc to your argument but it's not simply about the number of leagues places between the two clubs. The opposition he'd face after returning to us would be stronger. I get what you're saying, yes any players we have need to be able to perform against Wycombe, Ipswich etc. But we have plenty in our squad that have only proved themselves in Lge 2 recently and they've been expected to step up to Lge 1, when they weren't ripping up trees last season (Gordon, Thomasson arguably, Delf). Just opinions but for me Politic looked more than capable at Lge 1 when he was here, he was a bright spark for us. I'll go with whatever IE decides, I just don't go with the argument with anyone not picked in Vale's first XI is automatically no good for us. Isgrove plays in a similar position and no guarantee he'd be in a top end Lge 1 team, but almost a guaranteed pick for us when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I get what you're saying, yes any players we have need to be able to perform against Wycombe, Ipswich etc. But we have plenty in our squad that have only proved themselves in Lge 2 recently and they've been expected to step up to Lge 1, when they weren't ripping up trees last season (Gordon, Thomasson arguably, Delf). Just opinions but for me Politic looked more than capable at Lge 1 when he was here, he was a bright spark for us. I'll go with whatever IE decides, I just don't go with the argument with anyone not picked in Vale's first XI is automatically no good for us. Isgrove plays in a similar position and no guarantee he'd be in a top end Lge 1 team, but almost a guaranteed pick for us when fit. Me neither. I think Politic is capable of offering something in this league and would've been a useful option to have currently, with players recovering from COVID/supposedly lacking in match fitness. I get the impression Evatt moved on from him the instant our contract offer was rejected, though, (and I think Politic also moved on from us) so any footballing considerations now are pretty much irrelevent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Me neither. I think Politic is capable of offering something in this league and would've been a useful option to have currently, with players recovering from COVID/supposedly lacking in match fitness. I get the impression Evatt moved on from him the instant our contract offer was rejected, though, (and I think Politic also moved on from us) so any footballing considerations now are pretty much irrelevent. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Politic looked comfortable in L1 last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mutley said: Seen him play probably 15 times, just my personal opinion. I would like to see Gilks back in the team personally as I think he’s more than good enough for league one. His organisation of the defence is infectious and not to be overlooked mutley He’s aged twelve months since last season. He really isn’t up to it. mickyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Mutley said: From watching colls no doubt that Liam Hutchinson is a good shot stopper and a very commanding keeper claiming crosses but it’s his kicking that is letting him down at moment in my opinion. Can’t see him being number 1 for the time being mutley Tbf with some of the pitches Colls have played on this season - quagmire mudbaths or 100mph artificial pitches - will have helped him learn loads about his kicking. Better quality pitches and, with all due respect, a better standard of pass back to him and I don’t think it’ll be too much of an issue. That said, I do think it’s a good year too soon for him and he’d benefit from spending the rest of the season in League Two or the Conference so it’s been a surprise to hear IE is expecting LH to be challenging Dixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: ... it’s been a surprise to hear IE is expecting LH to be challenging Dixon. tbf, he may have him on the bench this week but wiod is Evatt's looking for a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, radcliffe white said: Politic looked comfortable in L1 last time He did. I'm in agreement with Aldo though; I suspect Evatt wasn't happy with the contract refusal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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