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Loan Watch 2021/22


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1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Good point!  I'm being idealistic I know.

 

Know what you mean though. Front line is the first line of defence, a striker's defending comes from closing defenders down and making it difficult for them to set off attacks.

Don't need them treading on centre halves' toes though. 

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Know what you mean though. Front line is the first line of defence, a striker's defending comes from closing defenders down and making it difficult for them to set off attacks.

Don't need them treading on centre halves' toes though. 

Modern wingers do almost as much defensively as offensively, so Isgrove over Baka for me, because he's comfortable and a safe pair of hands around our own penalty area.  But with only playing one striker, who suffers from being isolated, there's an argument for the No 10/attacking midfielder doing less defensively in his own half surely.  And if Politic does end up playing for us, we'd be losing a lot of his attacking ability by asking him to come back as much as other midfielders.

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23 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Modern wingers do almost as much defensively as offensively, so Isgrove over Baka for me, because he's comfortable and a safe pair of hands around our own penalty area.  But with only playing one striker, who suffers from being isolated, there's an argument for the No 10/attacking midfielder doing less defensively in his own half surely.  And if Politic does end up playing for us, we'd be losing a lot of his attacking ability by asking him to come back as much as other midfielders.

Aye.

At the moment we have an imbalance, and we've seen Sarc arguably sacrificing some of his attacking nature. 

With Lee and MJ it perhaps give Sarc more license to go forward and not worry so much about what is behind him.

 

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Non league round up first

Adam Senior missed a penalty but scored again for Ashton Utd in their 1-0 away win at Bamber Bridge.

Reiss Greenidge got on the pitch for the first time this season for Barnet in the 63 minute.  They were already 0-3 down, the final score.

Luke Hutchinson played in Colls 1-0 defeat to Gainsborough.

Matt Alexander was on the bench in Lancaster's home defeat to Matlock.

Jay Fitzmartin is still out injured.

Sure I read somewhere defender Ryan Colvin had gone out on loan this week, but can't find any mention of it.

 

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Looks to have played well, the paper gave him a decent mark too.

No point even thinking of recalling him until he’s regularly playing 90 minutes though - looks like he’s starting getting towards that too. Another month of so of gradually improving his fitness and we have a decision to make

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4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Problem with kachunga he’s on a 2 year deal on probably decent dosh, doubt we could off load him 

Loan him out somewhere?

May have to cover his wages to a degree, or maybe a free if someone else is interested.

Don't see it happening though- reckon Evatt is sticking with him, at least for a while.

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Loan him out somewhere?

May have to cover his wages to a degree, or maybe a free if someone else is interested.

Don't see it happening though- reckon Evatt is sticking with him, at least for a while.

If we could loan him fantastic!

I don’t think many clubs will be sniffing though😀

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Great to see those snippets of Politic, plays the game in that fearless, confident way that's similar in a way to a young Rooney, as if he's playing against his mates in the street.  And noticeable he's playing down the middle, not half wasted out wide as he was under Hill.  In hindsight its incredible that we signed Kachunga to effectively replace him.

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18 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Great to see those snippets of Politic, plays the game in that fearless, confident way that's similar in a way to a young Rooney, as if he's playing against his mates in the street.  And noticeable he's playing down the middle, not half wasted out wide as he was under Hill.  In hindsight its incredible that we signed Kachunga to effectively replace him.

He was out injured. So hardly a decent comparison. 

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1 hour ago, stevieb said:

He was out injured. So hardly a decent comparison. 

He was lacking fitness yes, but not injured as such, as he had made appearances in pre-season games.  Kachunga was also short of fitness, as we kept being reminded when he didn't seem to be upto speed. 

Its not a criticism that we signed him, I'm talking with the benefit of hindsight, I think we all saw the sense of signing ex Huddersfield promotion winning player Kachunga, he's just not lived up to what we expected yet.

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13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

He was lacking fitness yes, but not injured as such, as he had made appearances in pre-season games.  Kachunga was also short of fitness, as we kept being reminded when he didn't seem to be upto speed. 

Its not a criticism that we signed him, I'm talking with the benefit of hindsight, I think we all saw the sense of signing ex Huddersfield promotion winning player Kachunga, he's just not lived up to what we expected yet.

No I agree. In hindsight... 

But you could see what Evatt had in mind when he sent him out on loan. Hope it doesn't back fire and we lose him. 

I'd have politic back in a flash. He's got something about him that is exciting to watch. Like someone said... Plays like he's playing against his mates. Not afraid to run at people or have a shot. 

Not saying he's a world beater yet but better than what we've got on the bench at the moment. 

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No issue with his loan, he's still not played 90 minutes in a league game and he wouldn't be getting much (any) game time here.  The issue is the stalemate over a new contract.

Once he's fully fit get him back in January and let's go from there.  But he will have competition from new signings I hope.

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13 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

No issue with his loan, he's still not played 90 minutes in a league game and he wouldn't be getting much (any) game time here.  The issue is the stalemate over a new contract.

Once he's fully fit get him back in January and let's go from there.  But he will have competition from new signings I hope.

He'd be a better option than most/all of the potential signings we'd be able to make in January. 

Especially now Sarce has gone he's got a free run at nailing down that No 10 role if he properly wanted to apply himself. 

The worry for me though is that he hasn't taken kindly to Evatt's approach to his situation and has already moved on in his own mind. 

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19 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Great to see those snippets of Politic, plays the game in that fearless, confident way that's similar in a way to a young Rooney, as if he's playing against his mates in the street.  And noticeable he's playing down the middle, not half wasted out wide as he was under Hill.  In hindsight its incredible that we signed Kachunga to effectively replace him.

He actually apears to be playing on the left of a front three.

When he was at his best for us it was during the second half of the season under Hill when he took the spot vacated by Verlinden on the left wing.

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