Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2021 We want five. We want five. We want five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, MickyD said: We want five. We want five. We want five 😂😂. FKIN ESL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, royal white said: Same place where I sit, you’re probably best using that link I posted. Have you never heard racist/sectarian abuse hurled at him at our place? Honestly at him no. Have I heard racist stuff ? Yes one lad and people have told him to stop and he has done, he was there Saturday and shouting crap but nothing that would be racist more big standard 'stupid dog fucking cunt'. The only thing that was remotely racist was 'balaclava wearing twat' but as he was pictured wearing one hard to class that with the big R word. My dad used to tell a joke that he quite liked 'packis' but could not eat a full one, he told that at the match about 59 times, I did not report him btw. Edited October 19, 2021 by Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Very strange thread this. And totally missing certain issues around the Carpathian Brigade and the politics wrapped up in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, royal white said: Same place where I sit, you’re probably best using that link I posted. Have you never heard racist/sectarian abuse hurled at him at our place? Out of interest and for balance do you think the Hungarian supporters who are opposed to players taking the knee are doing so because, they are tired of politics been shoved down their throats , it just the BLM connection, they are worried that the gesture is being misinterpreted and should be replaced by a stronger more unifying message against racism (such as pointing to the Respect badge or are some of them racist ? I know in this country is not the last point but wonder if given cultural differences they have different reasons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ani said: Out of interest and for balance do you think the Hungarian supporters who are opposed to players taking the knee are doing so because, they are tired of politics been shoved down their throats , it just the BLM connection, they are worried that the gesture is being misinterpreted and should be replaced by a stronger more unifying message against racism (such as pointing to the Respect badge or are some of them racist ? I know in this country is not the last point but wonder if given cultural differences they have different reasons ? I’ve Honestly no idea. I don’t doubt some are racist, there’s people over here from all backgrounds and colours who oppose the knee for many different reasons. I definitely wouldn’t say they’re all racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 It's really easy to find out. Just search for Carpathian Brigade and Hungarian politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: It's really easy to find out. Just search for Carpathian Brigade and Hungarian politics. He said Hungarian supporters. I’m not tarring them all with the same brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, royal white said: He said Hungarian supporters. I’m not tarring them all with the same brush. Aye, but we're discussing the issue with some of the hungarian supporters and the behaviour. They were from The Carpathian Bridade and the Little Poles. So, as I say - its dead easy to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said: Aye, but we're discussing the issue with some of the hungarian supporters and the behaviour. They were from The Carpathian Bridade and the Little Poles. So, as I say - its dead easy to find out. I know about them, I have no need to find out anymore. I was asked a question and answered it. It’s quite a simple action. Not many people have answered my first question l, let’s try with you. Do you think BWFC should be hit with fines and potentially have to play behind closed doors because of what happened at the weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, royal white said: I know about them, I have no need to find out anymore. I was asked a question and answered it. It’s quite a simple action. Not many people have answered my first question l, let’s try with you. Do you think BWFC should be hit with fines and potentially have to play behind closed doors because of what happened at the weekend? I’ll answer no. The same as when I didn’t think all of chelsea should have had to when two people racially abused Sterling Hungary wasn’t one or two it was entire sections all game and it isn’t an isolated incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If RW wants to try and pin hypocrisy on this by circling his wagons and not really making the point, fine. I've no interest in indulging his little beit noir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: If RW wants to try and pin hypocrisy on this by circling his wagons and not really making the point, fine. I've no interest in indulging his little beit noir. The point is quite simple. We were all quick to slag off the Hungarians for their actions. Are we quick enough to condemn it on our own doorstep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 They’re not the same Neither are acceptable but one person or a select few shouting abuse isn’t the same as a whole section of fans abusing someone for 90 minutes The referees report will include reports from stewards from all around the ground if it’s been reported from a few sections then an investigation will be made and punishments are handed out. If it’s a select few the club or nation will be notified and it’s fed to the stewards to be on alert going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Rudy said: They’re not the same Neither are acceptable but one person or a select few shouting abuse isn’t the same as a whole section of fans abusing someone for 90 minutes The referees report will include reports from stewards from all around the ground if it’s been reported from a few sections then an investigation will be made and punishments are handed out. If it’s a select few the club or nation will be notified and it’s fed to the stewards to be on alert going forward If it was whole sections of the stadium in a crowd of over 70k how come only a few people picked up on it? I’ve not seen one bit of footage where racist remarks can be heard, I don’t doubt for a minute that their was. But maybe not as much as people were making out? Then there’s obviously the object throwing, where do we go with that? Apparently This is the 4th consecutive fixture with Wigan where there have been issues, so it’s not isolated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, royal white said: The point is quite simple. We were all quick to slag off the Hungarians for their actions. Are we quick enough to condemn it on our own doorstep? And if a point's worth making, it's worth making over 4 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, MickyD said: And if a point's worth making, it's worth making over 4 days. It’s WW, we will still be talking about it for years especially if racism and violence continue on our doorstep 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, royal white said: If it was whole sections of the stadium in a crowd of over 70k how come only a few people picked up on it? I’ve not seen one bit of footage where racist remarks can be heard, I don’t doubt for a minute that their was. But maybe not as much as people were making out? Then there’s obviously the object throwing, where do we go with that? Apparently This is the 4th consecutive fixture with Wigan where there have been issues, so it’s not isolated. It wasn’t the court of the people or judge rinder it was Fifa and UEFA They have reps in every part of the stadium who put it in their reports as well as the officials “"After analysing and taking into consideration ... the seriousness of the incidents (racist words and actions, throwing of objects, lighting of fireworks, blocked stairways), the Committee decided that the MLSZ would play its next two home matches in FIFA competitions without spectators, the second match being suspended for a probationary period of two years," Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 If a governing body is making a statement that they are punishing someone for racism then I’ll trust them to be correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rudy said: It wasn’t the court of the people or judge rinder it was Fifa and UEFA They have reps in every part of the stadium who put it in their reports as well as the officials “"After analysing and taking into consideration ... the seriousness of the incidents (racist words and actions, throwing of objects, lighting of fireworks, blocked stairways), the Committee decided that the MLSZ would play its next two home matches in FIFA competitions without spectators, the second match being suspended for a probationary period of two years," Like I say I don’t doubt there was. That’s pretty much what happened at the Reebok on sat 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 19, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rudy said: If a governing body is making a statement that they are punishing someone for racism then I’ll trust them to be correct As do I. Whether I trust them to take a similar hard line with all other FIFA members is another issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 19, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: It's really easy to find out. Just search for Carpathian Brigade and Hungarian politics. did some googling on the carpathaians, appears this is their top boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zico said: did some googling on the carpathaians, appears this is their top boy Nah this is the fella - Kept the Ottomans at bay, and we all know how heavy they can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted October 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Zico said: did some googling on the carpathaians, appears this is their top boy That's Vigo the Unsavoury, Vigo the Cad, Vigo the Dirty Dog, out of Ghostbusters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted October 20, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2021 And you wouldn't tell Vlad he had a shit hat, and call him a pound shop Vigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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