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First time all season we lost the midfield battles. We looked a yard of pace. No speed about our play. Brocky got murdered but to be fair to lad, no support off Baka. Lad was obviously struggling yet we tried to keep playing down his side? Baka/ Dapo kept giving ball away leaving us sitting ducks for counter attack. Really poor day at the office. What I don’t get is people asking us to change our style of football? That’s what has got us promoted and this season, we have more than competed? Perhaps Wigan is only team to look better.? Everts building a culture/ brand of football which in time with better players will serve us well. We have all loved watching it. Let’s not let one bad game of football cloud any judgement. Yes absolutely gutted about yesterday but look where we we come from in past few seasons. Pushing for playoffs in a league we just been promoted in? Only 3 points lost yesterday. COYWM 

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12 hours ago, Mantra said:

They were all over us in midfield. Every time we tackled them they swarmed and won it back. Which is fair fucks to them but some really careless play. Especially on the right flank and Sheehan looked far too casual.
 

They were the Best team we’ve played but I’m not sure if we made them Look like it or if they genuinely were that much better than us.

After Mcleans screamer the whole team just capitulated and showed no bottle.

 

This.

They absolutely battered us in the middle.

MJ and Sheehan totally overwhelmed 

McClean ripped Brockbank a new one. He ain't up to it I'm afraid. 

We move on 

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52 minutes ago, Ratwhite said:

This.

They absolutely battered us in the middle.

MJ and Sheehan totally overwhelmed 

We move on 

I didn't know who their black midfielder was, looked him up on the internet last night.

Jason Cousins. Age 27, signed from Stoke in the summer made 200 appearances at 2nd tier level.Physically stronger and better at it than MJ Williams and way too good for Sarcevic and Sheehan.It isn't just Wyke and MClean their new Arab has thrown decent wages at.Our 4th Division lads Sarcevic and Sheehan can be successful with their pretty football against some of the weaker teams in tier 3 but not against the bigger spenders.

We'll be reet  ( actually we'll be stuck in Div 3 until the owners pay for better players or a better manager)

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50 minutes ago, Ratwhite said:

McClean ripped Brockbank a new one. He ain't up to it I'm afraid. 

Thing is, Brockbank is the one grabbing the wrong headlines but Bakayoko’s role in a very weak right side shouldn’t be forgotten. Between them they were poor but it certainly wasn’t just Brockbank.

This is the first time this season we lost a game despite a massive possession, we didn’t actually look like we could come back from the habitual goal start we gave our opponents. 60% possession but with absolutely no eventual out ball. I stayed until the final whistle and, despite being four goals down we still tippy-tapped the ball around in our own half before the inevitable hoof upfield; or before the tackle which allows Wigan to turn our superior possession to their next goal!

Possession so far this season:

home v MKD - 49% draw

away v Wimbledon- 46% draw

away v Lincoln- 57% win

home v Oxford - 49% win

away v Cambridge- 74% lose

home v Burton - 75% draw

away v Ipswich- 44% win

home v Rotherham- 71% loss

away v Sunderland - 56% loss

away v Charlton- 48% win

home v Shrewsbury- 67% win

away v Wednesday- 61% loss

home v Wigan - 60% loss

So 11 of our 18 points have come when we haven’t had all the possession only 7 from superior possession stats.

These are the hindsight stats rather than the previously discussed expectation stats. We all know what’s happened and we all know having a large possession means Jack-shit if you don’t eventually penetrate the opposition defence. Let’s get back to playing the ball out and upfield and ensure the mistakes made are by the opposition being under pressure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yesterday was difficult to take and it still hurts but I think we will be ok, think Wigan finished 20th last season and with the addition of a few quality signings may go straight up. We are a good side and not a million miles away , like to see Thomason play on Tuesday, Izzy right back. We will be fine , bring a few recruits in the window plus the injured players we have coming back and the play offs are a realistic goal.

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I'm totally behind Evatt & his style of play, we've had more entertainment in 9 months than in the last 10yrs....with a promotion thrown in for good measure, however, as our players aren't as technically gifted as the Man City's of the world occasionally it's going to go spectacularly tits up, just as on good days we are going to wipe the floor with teams. 

      Recruitment I'd key & we have to show patience, as even on a dark day like yesterday, we are still moving in the right direction. We were weakened by the loss of 3 experienced players & I'm sure Evatt regrets a couple of decisions he made. We needed calm heads but we had a young lad with little game time under his belt, a striker who's missed a lot of game time playing out of position & only one midfielder who knows what defending is. 

             We badly need another Kieron Lee as he seems to give us more balance & composure ( and that's from someone who doubted his effectiveness not so long ago) & we need a better striker/target man than Doyle... but we are where we are until January at least but its been a hell of a lot worse! 

        Yesterday hurt & it still smarts today but we are upwardly mobile & almost as importantly being entertained along the way. KTF folks, it's only a minor setback, just feels worse because it was who it was. 

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25 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

I'm totally behind Evatt & his style of play, we've had more entertainment in 9 months than in the last 10yrs....with a promotion thrown in for good measure, however, as our players aren't as technically gifted as the Man City's of the world occasionally it's going to go spectacularly tits up, just as on good days we are going to wipe the floor with teams. 

      

I don't disagree in him wanting his style but shouldn't he be more open minded to alternate ways of playing when needs must? 

As an example Wigan were turning the ball around and up the pitch and on the edge of our box in a matter of seconds, we never do that? And this was from our free kicks and corners!!. We're Wigan not entertaining for there fans, playing in there style?

No General goes on a battlefield with a single strategy or tactic.

Evatt needs a little dose of pragmatism, a plan B, C and D to manage what is going on in front of him. It doesn't mean he has to go away from his beliefs in the wider context but should be a little more open minded to alternatives in my opinion.

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12 hours ago, perth_white said:

In fairness so was I.

I still think there will be ups and downs, this sounds like this was an abject performance. Mid table is a good start and I don't see us struggling over the season as I think we'll bring in reinforcements plus Evatt's teams seem to finish seasons strongly.

But I won't see a Wigan fan or anything about this unless I seek it out so I get that it's going to piss you off way more than it does me. 

It was a good post mate. I was having a rant. I like Evatt's arrogance, but it backfired yesterday and tbf he had it rubbed in his face.

Could be a proper wake-up call this. 🤞

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I'm not defending people who threw stuff but the Wigan players knew exactly what they were doing, there's been stuff on the Internet telling them to do it.. they were desperate for the reaction they got.. its a shame people gave it them.

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4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It was a good post mate. I was having a rant. I like Evatt's arrogance, but it backfired yesterday and tbf he had it rubbed in his face.

Could be a proper wake-up call this. 🤞

None taken. I have seen comments about this being as bad as Black Sunday or Stoke in the Semi. I remember how I felt after that United game and having to go into work in Swinton the day after, wouldn't wish that on any of you and I'm sorry that some people are feeling that way today.

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5 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

I’d expect both clubs will get punished tbh

and a reduced allocation for our visit 

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7 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

 

This is just tremendous logic

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4 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

Did you criticise Dapo at Ipswich! McGinlay against Wolves? and plenty of others I could mention..... These dickheads behave like that on a regular basis whether it be in or out of the ground. Remember the Leeds embarrassment? Must have been the bar staffs fault for winding them up 🤔

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9 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

Just imagine what would have happened had they put on a birthday hat, and celebrated in fron of the ESL.

Life bans for those throwing things. Dickheads. Don't drag my clubs name down.

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15 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

Totally agree...should have come to us behind the goal and said same to lads with me. No need for that. Being a loyalist l despise McClean anyroad. It's not the time for a Wiganer on here as any input could be misconstrued as gloating and that's not my game so I'll do one.

 

Good luck at Plymouth. 

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Let’s just put it down to a bad day at the office and it certainly was a very bad day. We can all criticise but it was generally just a really bad team performance, a one off and I can’t recall a day when so many players were off key at the same time. It doesn’t dent my confidence in the side overall though or lead me think we won’t still be challenging for promotion. Evatt is himself still learning and as we’ve said many times, we’re a work in progress. It’s sometimes valuable to get a kick up the jacksy and hopefully that’s what we’ve had and it will just fire the players up to make sure it doesn’t happen again. We always knew we needed to strengthen in January and yesterday just proved it so onwards and hopefully upwards starting on Tuesday. 🤗

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17 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Why did Wigan players go and celebrate in front of ESL, because they knew they would get a reaction. Not condoning what happened, but if they had gone to their own fans, nothing would have been thrown.

The Wigan players were on a wind up all day.

They had been mentally prepared for coming here, doing a job on us, then rubbing our noses in it.

Evatts interview where he apparently said we were going to spank someone 5 or 6 nil soon,was no doubt used in their pre match pep talk.

I like IE and his football philosophies, but he’s still  a young manager who makes mistakes sometimes, let’s hope he learned something from yesterdays embarrassing performance.

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6 minutes ago, Rubberkex said:

Totally agree...should have come to us behind the goal and said same to lads with me. No need for that. Being a loyalist l despise McClean anyroad. It's not the time for a Wiganer on here as any input could be misconstrued as gloating and that's not my game so I'll do one.

 

Good luck at Plymouth. 


Cheers Rk but to be fair, players should be able to celebrate wherever on the pitch they like without that kind of reaction. You were well worth the win yesterday but don’t get too confident. We had a bad day yesterday and it may all be different by the time we come to your place? 😉

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