Guest Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I know money has some importance in professional sport, but would world stars go to Newcastle over, for example, London? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I know money has some importance in professional sport, but would world stars go to Newcastle over, for example, London? If it’s paying an extra £50k a week, yes. All greedy fuckers, but loving the ‘project’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again. Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support. Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again. Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support. Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though. the owner said 5-10 years seems a fair timeline to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zico said: the owner said 5-10 years seems a fair timeline to me  To win the league ?? LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 How long did it take City to win the league? About 5 years? If they go about it at Newcastle as they did at City, building an infrastructure, getting the right types of players in (An Aguero rather than a Robinho) it's definitely do-able Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 8, 2021 Members Share Posted October 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Pablo said: Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again. Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support. Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though.  11 minutes ago, Zico said: the owner said 5-10 years seems a fair timeline to me Can’t rock up and say yeah we’re winning it in 2 years Their whole hierarchy infrastructure needs a complete overhaul, takes years. Can’t  throw someone in with a blank chequebook and say right crack on They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Pablo said:  To win the league ?? LOL!!!  1 hour ago, Rudy said:  Can’t rock up and say yeah we’re winning it in 2 years Their whole hierarchy infrastructure needs a complete overhaul, takes years. Can’t  throw someone in with a blank chequebook and say right crack on They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost took City 4 seasons after their takeover they probably had a better squad than newcastle have now but aiming for 5-10 years doesn't seem deluded, I'm sure they will be challenging to some degree in that time frame, certainly for the top 4, most would of their fans would probably take that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 8, 2021 Members Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zico said:  took City 4 seasons after their takeover they probably had a better squad than newcastle have now but aiming for 5-10 years doesn't seem deluded, I'm sure they will be challenging to some degree in that time frame, certainly for the top 4, most would of their fans would probably take that When city won the league then it seemed to be either the scum, city or Chelsea Now it’s an over populated pool and still the hardest league in the world to win. from a neutral point of view it’s a good thing to mix it up but it’s a process that can’t be achieved overnight. Different beast now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: I know money has some importance in professional sport, but would world stars go to Newcastle over, for example, London? I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time. Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others. The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff. If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time. Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others. The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff. If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go. All correct but the ones who aren't 'family men' will want the fast route to that London to be in the thick of things. I know Newcadtle has its scene but that's largely pissed up blokes in Toon shirts and pissed up women in microskirts. Sooner or later trouble will follow. For family minded, or quiet professionals it IS surrounded by beautiful countryside if you don't mind freezing your bollox off half the year. Â But taking tje location arguement to its logical conclusion, why leave Roma/Lazio (not Milan or Juventus who's cities are toilets), PSG, too. Personally I'd be found in Nice/Monaco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time. Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others. The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff. If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go. Spent quite a bit of time up there over the years and I'd argue that a lot of the population are dense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Rudy said: They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost Hell of a difficult task. Just the fact many players wouldn’t look twice at playing for Newcastle last week but this week would jump at the chance pretty much makes them mercenaries, doesn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Rudy said: When city won the league then it seemed to be either the scum, city or Chelsea Now it’s an over populated pool and still the hardest league in the world to win. from a neutral point of view it’s a good thing to mix it up but it’s a process that can’t be achieved overnight. Different beast now Football is cyclical Teams come and go They are 10x richer than city who managed it without history tradition etc They'll probably sign Ibrahimovic in January They might not actually achieve it but I don't think they are deluded to aim to win it within 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Their fans are tedious. flip side if they can push the rags down a place then happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 8, 2021 Members Share Posted October 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, MickyD said: Hell of a difficult task. Just the fact many players wouldn’t look twice at playing for Newcastle last week but this week would jump at the chance pretty much makes them mercenaries, doesn’t it? It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of 3 minutes ago, Zico said: Football is cyclical Teams come and go They are 10x richer than city who managed it without history tradition etc They'll probably sign Ibrahimovic in January They might not actually achieve it but I don't think they are deluded to aim to win it within 10 years I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannyroader Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible 10 years. Their fans will lose patience with a manager after 10 weeks. It should never be forgotten that they hounded Bobby Robson, of all people, out of his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rudy said: It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible At the very least they should be able to get some bigger TVs under the stands  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 That's exactly my point before. More likely to dilute the top talent pool if players do start going for the money. Which potentially opens it up for more clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: I can see them paying 50m for Delli Ali and tempting an has-been past it Gareth Bale, complete with greasy top knot for 1m a week. Golf - Wales - Madrid - Newcastle Brown They can have Dapo for £40m  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 8, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Inflated prices now fella ... £140m Quite, chuck in comley to sweeten the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted October 9, 2021 Members Share Posted October 9, 2021 19 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said: All clubs have some loyal fans.Newcastle just don't have enough fans to generate the revenue to win trophies. If your lot had been through what they'd been through you'd have been down in the mid 20k's with not a turban in sight. It will be good to see them overtake you as well as that mob from east Manchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted October 9, 2021 Members Share Posted October 9, 2021 Halal The Lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: If your lot had been through what they'd been through you'd have been down in the mid 20k's with not a turban in sight. It will be good to see them overtake you as well as that mob from east Manchester. The point is Man Utd , Liverpool (and Arsenal to a lesser extent) have much bigger global support than Newcastle.The revenue from their much bigger support prevents them turning out crap teams like Newcastle have over the last 50 years since they won anything. A quick look on instagram shows Newcastle United have 885,000 followers, Manchester United have over 50 million.The Manchester United ladies team was only formed in 2018 but already have more followers on instagram than the Newcastle mens team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton in bedford Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: The point is Man Utd , Liverpool (and Arsenal to a lesser extent) have much bigger global support than Newcastle.The revenue from their much bigger support prevents them turning out crap teams like Newcastle have over the last 50 years since they won anything. A quick look on instagram shows Newcastle United have 885,000 followers, Manchester United have over 50 million.The Manchester United ladies team was only formed in 2018 but already have more followers on instagram than the Newcastle mens team! I do see your point on a global scale, but I dare say Newcastle won’t need that additional revenue globally with how much the have behind them.  City aren’t massive globally, yet have done alright. FWIW Newcastle are one of those teams I dislike for no rational reason and if they do well we won’t hear the end of it similar to Liverpool fans, so if it goes tits up then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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