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Newcastle......The next City??????????


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4 hours ago, Ghana White said:

Forgot to mention, living up here the talk about the North East being a hot bed of football is boring and largely bollocks.. north east population is only a bit smaller then greater manchesters (no such place) yet there are 4 league clubs there and 7 in GM with bury and stockport being there not so long ago.. 

Who's the 4th ???

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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Do you think there is an onus on fans though.

Its a difficult one though - I mean, how many would really not go because of ownership? Where is the line? Dodgy porn peddler ok, murderous state regime not?

Football does need to get its house in order absoultely and its shouldn't just be on the fans - but getting Fifa, the PL or clubs to turn their back is asking turkey's to vote for Christmas. So if they won't who will?

I don't have any answers, but its a really uncomfortable truth.

You're right, not all fans would boycott games, and perhaps they shouldn't have to.

Perhaps a number of countries could threaten to break from Fifa, though there doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for it.

Ultimately, if enough fans/players etc got together in a meaningful way and lobbied the authorities, then maybe something could be done.

I doubt enough are that bothered though to make a difference. 

No easy answers, but I'm not going to go bonkers towards Newcastle when there are loads of others in the same boat.

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34 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I know money has some importance in professional sport, but would world stars go to Newcastle over, for example, London?

If it’s paying an extra £50k a week, yes.

All greedy fuckers, but loving the ‘project’.

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Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again.

Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support.

Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though.

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7 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again.

Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support.

Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though.

the owner said 5-10 years

seems a fair timeline to me

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How long did it take City to win the league? About 5 years?

If they go about it at Newcastle as they did at City, building an infrastructure, getting the right types of players in (An Aguero rather than a Robinho) it's definitely do-able

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19 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Meh. Atleast they are happy Ashley has gone, and they can enjoy supporting their team again.

Im not fan of them, but every fan should enjoy following the team they support.

Tad deluded on how quick they will be "challenging" though.

 

11 minutes ago, Zico said:

the owner said 5-10 years

seems a fair timeline to me

Can’t rock up and say yeah we’re winning it in 2 years 

Their whole hierarchy infrastructure needs a complete overhaul, takes years. Can’t  throw someone in with a blank chequebook and say right crack on

They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost 

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1 hour ago, Pablo said:

 

To win the league ?? LOL!!!

 

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

 

Can’t rock up and say yeah we’re winning it in 2 years 

Their whole hierarchy infrastructure needs a complete overhaul, takes years. Can’t  throw someone in with a blank chequebook and say right crack on

They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost 

took City 4 seasons after their takeover

they probably had a better squad than newcastle have now

but aiming for 5-10 years doesn't seem deluded, I'm sure they will be challenging to some degree in that time frame, certainly for the top 4, most would of their fans would probably take that

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4 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

took City 4 seasons after their takeover

they probably had a better squad than newcastle have now

but aiming for 5-10 years doesn't seem deluded, I'm sure they will be challenging to some degree in that time frame, certainly for the top 4, most would of their fans would probably take that

When city won the league then it seemed to be either the scum, city or Chelsea 

Now it’s an over populated pool and still the hardest league in the world to win.

from a neutral point of view it’s a good thing to mix it up but it’s a process that can’t be achieved overnight. Different beast now 

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3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

I know money has some importance in professional sport, but would world stars go to Newcastle over, for example, London?

I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time.

Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others.

The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff.

If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go.

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1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time.

Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others.

The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff.

If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go.

All correct but the ones who aren't 'family men' will want the fast route to that London to be in the thick of things.

I know Newcadtle has its scene but that's largely pissed up blokes in Toon shirts and pissed up women in microskirts. Sooner or later trouble will follow.

For family minded, or quiet professionals it IS surrounded by beautiful countryside if you don't mind freezing your bollox off half the year.

 

But taking tje location arguement to its logical conclusion, why leave Roma/Lazio (not Milan or Juventus who's cities are toilets), PSG, too.

Personally I'd be found in Nice/Monaco.

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1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think this geographical aspect is way overplayed. Bolton isn't thought of as the most salubrious area, but we attracted top players at one time.

Leicester likewise, although they've not splashed out like others.

The North East is a beautiful part of the world, not densely populated and property is comparatively cheap, so a football player on a fortune could have a mansion and an estate for the price of a decent London gaff.

If the money is there, and a chance of winning things, players will go.

Spent quite a bit of time up there over the years and I'd argue that a lot of the population are dense

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4 hours ago, Rudy said:

They need to avoid signing mercenaries first and foremost 

Hell of a difficult task. Just the fact many players wouldn’t look twice at playing for Newcastle last week but this week would jump at the chance pretty much makes them mercenaries, doesn’t it?

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3 hours ago, Rudy said:

When city won the league then it seemed to be either the scum, city or Chelsea 

Now it’s an over populated pool and still the hardest league in the world to win.

from a neutral point of view it’s a good thing to mix it up but it’s a process that can’t be achieved overnight. Different beast now 

Football is cyclical 

Teams come and go 

They are 10x richer than city who managed it without history tradition etc 

They'll probably sign Ibrahimovic in January 

They might not actually achieve it but I don't think they are deluded to aim to win it within 10 years

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38 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Hell of a difficult task. Just the fact many players wouldn’t look twice at playing for Newcastle last week but this week would jump at the chance pretty much makes them mercenaries, doesn’t it?

It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of 

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Football is cyclical 

Teams come and go 

They are 10x richer than city who managed it without history tradition etc 

They'll probably sign Ibrahimovic in January 

They might not actually achieve it but I don't think they are deluded to aim to win it within 10 years

I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible 

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2 minutes ago, Rudy said:

It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of 

I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible 

10 years. Their fans will lose patience with a manager after 10 weeks. It should never be forgotten that they hounded Bobby Robson, of all people, out of his job.

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20 minutes ago, Rudy said:

It does but if you were coming to your retirement age and a firm came knocking for a huge payday you’d take it wouldn’t you. It’s the agents they have to be wary of 

I don’t think so. It’s a hell of an achievement to win the PL but it’s even harder to retain it how many teams have done it? Getting that consistency is so hard, for all the qualities Klopp has brought to Liverpool they couldn’t win back to back titles and they have a great set up. Considering the problems Newcastle have had over the years I don’t think it’s a quick turnaround but a 10 year plan is sensible 

At the very least they should be able to get some bigger TVs under the stands 

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Are there enough high quality players (Haaland, M'bappe, De Bruyne, Kane etc... to feed all these rich clubs, Wolves have the 10th richest owners in football, they haven't been near the UCL, why should Newcastle ?

Look at their past attendances, they were proper shit, at least Citeh averaged 25k, these fuckers where scraping 14k to 17k at best. 

I can see this all going tits up on the pitch, new manager every 14 months and a banner in the Gallowgate saying "Bring back Mike Ashley and Brucie" 

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7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's exactly my point before. More likely to dilute the top talent pool if players do start going for the money.

Which potentially opens it up for more clubs.

I can see them paying 50m for Delli Ali and tempting an has-been past it Gareth Bale, complete with greasy top knot for 1m a week.

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