Pablo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy said: You could do it with each Fifa zone especially with 48 team tournaments. 6 minnows making it the World Cup finals, that’s how you develop football. Give them equal opportunities. Get Wenger on the blower Suppose his idea for WC every 2 years would reduce these shite games maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Pablo said: Suppose his idea for WC every 2 years would reduce these shite games maybe. At first I dismissed that as a daft idea and one I’m sure UEFA will (or have) rejected but when I read into it, it sort of made sense. But probably just a cash crab for FIFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 how disheartening must it be going into a battle you know you've already lost something needs to be done about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, L/H White said: how disheartening must it be going into a battle you know you've already lost something needs to be done about it The flip side for them is that 2 games v England, plus 2 v a Russia or Denmark for eg, will bring in the finance from gate receipts, TV coverage, sponsorship etc that sustains them. If they were just playing Azerbajan and Gibralter they wouldn't be able to pay their players, arguably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 16, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2021 I remember when Turkey were totally shite, and we'd whoop them umpteen nil. OK a small nation like this won't have the population and resources to grow its game like Turkey, but the danger of chucking them into a separate qualification section, would probably just see them getting beaten by other small (but still bigger) nations and they'll lose the opportunity to play against a major nation occasionally. Arguments both ways, but for me, leave things as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: The flip side for them is that 2 games v England, plus 2 v a Russia or Denmark for eg, will bring in the finance from gate receipts, TV coverage, sponsorship etc that sustains them. If they were just playing Azerbajan and Gibralter they wouldn't be able to pay their players, arguably. FIFA own the broadcasting pictures so they get a share of the tv pot anyways regardless of who they play Same goes for the sponsorship money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Rudy said: FIFA own the broadcasting pictures so they get a share of the tv pot anyways regardless of who they play Same goes for the sponsorship money Oh right I didn't realise that, seems odd that Gibralter get the same slice as England and Germany but there will be arguments both ways. I'd prefer it if everyone had to earn the right to play in the qualifiers. Too many games are meaningless, and it makes international football other than major tournaments a turn off. But I understand the opposite views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Oh right I didn't realise that, seems odd that Gibralter get the same slice as England and Germany but there will be arguments both ways. I'd prefer it if everyone had to earn the right to play in the qualifiers. Too many games are meaningless, and it makes international football other than major tournaments a turn off. But I understand the opposite views. Yeah I think it would put them out of pocket to host their own games based purely on gate revenue. England would be fine but the smaller nations not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 and the local economy benefits from the influx of travelling fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Non league teams don't have the right to play elite Premier League teams every season in the FA Cup, they have to earn that right. The likes of San Marino and Andorra should also have to IMO. What would get tricky is where you draw the line between those that have to have pre-qualifiers and those that don't. Without a great deal of thought I'd suggest that line be dependant on whether your own country has it's own professional football league or not. Wales and Norn Iron get a pass from this ruling. Rule Brittania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) . Edited November 16, 2021 by DazBob DP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, DazBob said: Non league teams don't have the right to play elite Premier League teams every season in the FA Cup, they have to earn that right. The likes of San Marino and Andorra should also have to IMO. What would get tricky is where you draw the line between those that have to have pre-qualifiers and those that don't. Without a great deal of thought I'd suggest that line be dependant on whether your own country has it's own professional football league or not. Wales and Norn Iron get a pass from this ruling. Rule Brittania. Yeah but if Liverpool and city were playing Scunthorpe every week they’d never get in. You’ve just described league football 😁 I thought possibly the lowest ranked teams in each zone throw them into The group of shite and see who can crawl their way out of it. The Shawshank group if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rudy said: Yeah but if Liverpool and city were playing Scunthorpe every week they’d never get in. You’ve just described league football 😁 I thought possibly the lowest ranked teams in each zone throw them into The group of shite and see who can crawl their way out of it. The Shawshank group if you will. That's what my pre-qualifiers idea is all about. All the countries that don't have their own professional leagues play each other. The winner(s) then get the chance to play, and get hammered, by the better countries in the 'proper' qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, DazBob said: That's what my pre-qualifiers idea is all about. All the countries that don't have their own professional leagues play each other. The winner(s) then get the chance to play, and get hammered, by the better countries in the 'proper' qualifiers. Ahh the foreplay league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Rudy said: Ahh the foreplay league Nobody wants/needs that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Traf said: Nobody wants/needs that So @Sweep keeps telling me. What happened to romance. Not even a reacharound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy said: So @Sweep keeps telling me. What happened to romance. Not even a reacharound I've not got time for foreplay and lube, as well you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 16, 2021 Members Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: I've not got time for foreplay and lube, as well you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Carlos Posted March 17, 2022 Moderators Share Posted March 17, 2022 I've never heard of Marc Guehi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) who the fuckery is Marc Guehi? edit: just googled, apparently Palace bought him from Chelsea for £18M last year.....I've still never heard of him Edited March 17, 2022 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 17, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sweep said: who the fuckery is Marc Guehi? edit: just googled, apparently Palace bought him from Chelsea for £18M last year.....I've still never heard of him Demonstrably false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sweep said: who the fuckery is Marc Guehi? edit: just googled, apparently Palace bought him from Chelsea for £18M last year.....I've still never heard of him Sounds French Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 17, 2022 Moderators Share Posted March 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sweep said: who the fuckery is Marc Guehi? edit: just googled, apparently Palace bought him from Chelsea for £18M last year.....I've still never heard of him 8 minutes ago, Traf said: Sounds French just did a google voice search on my mobile to see who he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannyroader Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I would've liked to see Max Kilman at Wolves given a chance. Tyrone Minge is almost as poor as Maguire. Kilman's mum is Ukranian and Shevchenko wanted to pick him a while back but; because Kilman played for England at futsal; he can only ever play for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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