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Who needs to hear the political opinions of a bloke who services diggers in the Australian desert?

Stick to the engineering, there’s a good chap 

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14 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Do you mind if i ask why it angers you so much?

He'll waffle something about "snowflakes" and "virtue signalling". He's too soft to step out of the closet and confess the real reason.

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5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

It's a conundrum. Have to acknowledge his success in getting to Euro final and WC semi final by whatever route. Many before him got nowhere near and I can't believe that it was simply the 'luck of the draw' on both cases.

Absolutely a yes man/stooge of the FA however and his constant 'nanny state' preaching on his/the FA's line on virtue signalling issues grates. He is there to produce and manage a successful international football team and should stay the fuck out of political and social issues in my opinion. I don't listen to his interviews any more for this reason - I don't need the England football manager telling me how I should think.

On the fence. Not disappointed to see him stay (until the England team fails miserably in something of importance - not last night, that just looked like a bunch of very tired blokes after a long, tough season having to take on some plucky young upstarts on their own midden) and wouldn't be distressed to see him go, either voluntarily or pushed (the latter being highly unlikely when he is such a subservient lapdog).

It would be nice to have a talented and highly respectable manager like Bobby Robson again. Not sure they are allowed to develop or even exist in todays world.

Everything in this world is different Bolty. It is a world of media (traditional print and TV are still there) but also online and social and they are quickly replacing the former.

Those who controlled the media are losing grip and massively so.

I can't see anything bad about that to be honest. Fox news? No thanks. The BBC is so impartial it trips over itself and annoys far right and left, that tells me it's doing OK.

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43 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Do you mind if i ask why it angers you so much?

I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and so feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. 

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3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and who feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. 

L/H White was asking you to voice your own opinion. If you're too scared to voice your opinion because it might be deemed 'racist', then it probably is.

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and so feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. 

The reason theyre happy to be racist is cos its fucking positively encouraged

Its how theyre being brought up

How anybody can fi d that to be the highlight of theur day is astounding

 

 

On the taking the knee, what about if players come out with placards saying 'no to discrimination'

 

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On 04/06/2022 at 22:04, Mantra said:

Wasn’t convinced after the easy route we had in the last World Cup but in the euros, beating Germany and losing out on penalties to Italy is a great effort

But its difficult to judge when you play all your games at home, and because we are seeded we get a favourable draw too.  And we have the best crop of players I can ever remember, there is quality cover in every single position. Southgate can only play the cards he's dealt, but if he had done any worse than he has so far it would have been a failure. He's done OK and he's a great bloke but he loves a defensive midfielder doesn't he?   To the detriment of a bit more flair given how many exciting players we could call on

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13 minutes ago, Casino said:

The reason theyre happy to be racist is cos its fucking positively encouraged

Its how theyre being brought up

How anybody can fi d that to be the highlight of theur day is astounding

 

 

On the taking the knee, what about if players come out with placards saying 'no to discrimination'

 

You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media.

Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. 

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7 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media.

Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. 

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16 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

It would be nice to have a talented and highly respectable manager like Bobby Robson again. Not sure they are allowed to develop or even exist in todays world.

2 decent world cup campaigns and 2 appalling Euros.  Southgate's record has already long surpassed his.

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9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

But its difficult to judge when you play all your games at home, and because we are seeded we get a favourable draw too.  And we have the best crop of players I can ever remember, there is quality cover in every single position. Southgate can only play the cards he's dealt, but if he had done any worse than he has so far it would have been a failure. He's done OK and he's a great bloke but he loves a defensive midfielder doesn't he?   To the detriment of a bit more flair given how many exciting players we could call on

A better crop of players than Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham, Scholes, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Owen, Rooney?

We have players from West Ham, Leeds and Everton in the spine of our first 11.

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14 hours ago, Casino said:

England manager and his players making public statements that you dont racially abuse any one of us without hurting all of us and we arent going to tolerate it

Yeah, who needs this virtue signalling

You apparently.

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9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media.

Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. 

 

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10 hours ago, Winchester White said:

The BBC is so impartial it trips over itself and annoys far right and left, that tells me it's doing OK.

Agree with most of what you said but this bit? Really?

I watched interviews at various street parties on the BBC News this morning. Before I type the next bit I must say that yes, I do find comments from West Indian heritage, subcontinent heritage, in fact all people descended from folk who migrated to the UK over the last century or so heart warming when they say how much they love Queen and country. Fantastic.

Does this mean however that the BBC cannot possibly interview a person with white skin who may be descended from many generations of local origin people? Apparently so because I saw not one asked to comment.

A step too far don't you think? Once again pandering to the left which, if you want to be honest, gives them the best chance of higher funding. You know full well they will be clandestinely campaigning for a Labour victory in the next GE as they always do. Impartial my arse.

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43 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

You know that this just lost you the debate don't you?

"Happy smiling kids"....being told a set of political beliefs and told its right to boo a gesture aimed at standing against racism and discrimination?

The sheet reason they are there in the first place.

As I say above, check out what is actually going on in Hungary at the minute. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Doesn't that show what can happen when you're told what to think, and society isn't free?

 

Told what to think? Yes told to boo a 10 second show of defiance against racism? 

 

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1 hour ago, Duck Egg said:

2 decent world cup campaigns and 2 appalling Euros.  Southgate's record has already long surpassed his.

What has Southgate achieved that is so superior to Robson?  We’ve been handed a very easy passage through the qualifiers and  we’ve been very lucky that many of the teams you’d expect to be in and around the last 8 have fallen earlier than normal, if you look at Southgate results he has numerous games against the likes of Malta, San Marino, Albania, Lithuania and the like which have bumped up his win %. I’m hoping he turns out to be the real deal but the evidence in front of my eyes tells me he isn't. 

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keep in mind Robson got plenty of flack e.g. after drawing against the Saudis

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I remember being at England v Romania the day after Jock Stein died. There was a very respectful minute's silence. At then at the end of it someone piped up "that was a better minute's silence than Robson would get at Hampden", to which some cockney wag replied "it was better than he'd fackin' get at Wembley"...

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