gonzo Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Who even listens to managers press conferences anyway ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 Likewise Who needs to hear the political opinions of a bloke who services diggers in the Australian desert? Stick to the engineering, there’s a good chap #KnowYourLimits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Think Ramsey’s biggest win came against the footballing giants of Malta jsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: That’s ok.. you have an opinion on taking the knee and I have mine. Do you mind if i ask why it angers you so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, L/H White said: Do you mind if i ask why it angers you so much? He'll waffle something about "snowflakes" and "virtue signalling". He's too soft to step out of the closet and confess the real reason. Edited June 5, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: It's a conundrum. Have to acknowledge his success in getting to Euro final and WC semi final by whatever route. Many before him got nowhere near and I can't believe that it was simply the 'luck of the draw' on both cases. Absolutely a yes man/stooge of the FA however and his constant 'nanny state' preaching on his/the FA's line on virtue signalling issues grates. He is there to produce and manage a successful international football team and should stay the fuck out of political and social issues in my opinion. I don't listen to his interviews any more for this reason - I don't need the England football manager telling me how I should think. On the fence. Not disappointed to see him stay (until the England team fails miserably in something of importance - not last night, that just looked like a bunch of very tired blokes after a long, tough season having to take on some plucky young upstarts on their own midden) and wouldn't be distressed to see him go, either voluntarily or pushed (the latter being highly unlikely when he is such a subservient lapdog). It would be nice to have a talented and highly respectable manager like Bobby Robson again. Not sure they are allowed to develop or even exist in todays world. Everything in this world is different Bolty. It is a world of media (traditional print and TV are still there) but also online and social and they are quickly replacing the former. Those who controlled the media are losing grip and massively so. I can't see anything bad about that to be honest. Fox news? No thanks. The BBC is so impartial it trips over itself and annoys far right and left, that tells me it's doing OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted June 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 Sorry, just realised this is the England thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, L/H White said: Do you mind if i ask why it angers you so much? I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and so feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. Edited June 5, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted June 5, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and who feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. L/H White was asking you to voice your own opinion. If you're too scared to voice your opinion because it might be deemed 'racist', then it probably is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 5, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: I wasn’t angry! I was happy that people in other parts of the world can see things from a different perspective and are free to voice their opinion and without fear of being labelled racist. That’s a bit to complex for some folk to understand and so feel the need to casually throw around racist slurs because they don’t agree. The reason theyre happy to be racist is cos its fucking positively encouraged Its how theyre being brought up How anybody can fi d that to be the highlight of theur day is astounding On the taking the knee, what about if players come out with placards saying 'no to discrimination' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:04, Mantra said: Wasn’t convinced after the easy route we had in the last World Cup but in the euros, beating Germany and losing out on penalties to Italy is a great effort But its difficult to judge when you play all your games at home, and because we are seeded we get a favourable draw too. And we have the best crop of players I can ever remember, there is quality cover in every single position. Southgate can only play the cards he's dealt, but if he had done any worse than he has so far it would have been a failure. He's done OK and he's a great bloke but he loves a defensive midfielder doesn't he? To the detriment of a bit more flair given how many exciting players we could call on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Casino said: The reason theyre happy to be racist is cos its fucking positively encouraged Its how theyre being brought up How anybody can fi d that to be the highlight of theur day is astounding On the taking the knee, what about if players come out with placards saying 'no to discrimination' You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media. Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. Edited June 5, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media. Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. . Edited June 6, 2022 by wanderer1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 16 hours ago, bolty58 said: It would be nice to have a talented and highly respectable manager like Bobby Robson again. Not sure they are allowed to develop or even exist in todays world. 2 decent world cup campaigns and 2 appalling Euros. Southgate's record has already long surpassed his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: But its difficult to judge when you play all your games at home, and because we are seeded we get a favourable draw too. And we have the best crop of players I can ever remember, there is quality cover in every single position. Southgate can only play the cards he's dealt, but if he had done any worse than he has so far it would have been a failure. He's done OK and he's a great bloke but he loves a defensive midfielder doesn't he? To the detriment of a bit more flair given how many exciting players we could call on A better crop of players than Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham, Scholes, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Owen, Rooney? We have players from West Ham, Leeds and Everton in the spine of our first 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 6, 2022 Members Share Posted June 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Casino said: England manager and his players making public statements that you dont racially abuse any one of us without hurting all of us and we arent going to tolerate it Yeah, who needs this virtue signalling You apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: You don’t know kids are brought up to be racist, (the kids I saw looked like normal happy smiling kids) maybe they are taught to think in a way that isn't programmed and dictated by the media. Most countries have now binned the knee, and in my opinion rightly so. I’d prefer our players to play football and not have to worry about making some half arsed political gesture that is in reality achieving nothing and that many of the players couldn’t care less about if truth be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 6, 2022 Members Share Posted June 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Winchester White said: The BBC is so impartial it trips over itself and annoys far right and left, that tells me it's doing OK. Agree with most of what you said but this bit? Really? I watched interviews at various street parties on the BBC News this morning. Before I type the next bit I must say that yes, I do find comments from West Indian heritage, subcontinent heritage, in fact all people descended from folk who migrated to the UK over the last century or so heart warming when they say how much they love Queen and country. Fantastic. Does this mean however that the BBC cannot possibly interview a person with white skin who may be descended from many generations of local origin people? Apparently so because I saw not one asked to comment. A step too far don't you think? Once again pandering to the left which, if you want to be honest, gives them the best chance of higher funding. You know full well they will be clandestinely campaigning for a Labour victory in the next GE as they always do. Impartial my arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 6, 2022 Members Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: You know that this just lost you the debate don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, gonzo said: Doesn't that show what can happen when you're told what to think, and society isn't free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, bolty58 said: You know that this just lost you the debate don't you? "Happy smiling kids"....being told a set of political beliefs and told its right to boo a gesture aimed at standing against racism and discrimination? The sheet reason they are there in the first place. As I say above, check out what is actually going on in Hungary at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Doesn't that show what can happen when you're told what to think, and society isn't free? Told what to think? Yes told to boo a 10 second show of defiance against racism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: 2 decent world cup campaigns and 2 appalling Euros. Southgate's record has already long surpassed his. What has Southgate achieved that is so superior to Robson? We’ve been handed a very easy passage through the qualifiers and we’ve been very lucky that many of the teams you’d expect to be in and around the last 8 have fallen earlier than normal, if you look at Southgate results he has numerous games against the likes of Malta, San Marino, Albania, Lithuania and the like which have bumped up his win %. I’m hoping he turns out to be the real deal but the evidence in front of my eyes tells me he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Who exaclty did we play in italia 90? Needed 2 pens to beat Cameroon, a last minute goal v Belgium, drew with Ireland ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 keep in mind Robson got plenty of flack e.g. after drawing against the Saudis I remember being at England v Romania the day after Jock Stein died. There was a very respectful minute's silence. At then at the end of it someone piped up "that was a better minute's silence than Robson would get at Hampden", to which some cockney wag replied "it was better than he'd fackin' get at Wembley"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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