Ani Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, gonzo said: A better crop of players than Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham, Scholes, Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Owen, Rooney? We have players from West Ham, Leeds and Everton in the spine of our first 11. We do not have a centre half to compare to the 2 you mention. We have good attacking options generally but if Kane has on off day we struggle. The squad is paper thin and the defence is rubbish at defenders, the full backs are better going fwad than defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 6, 2022 19 hours ago, bolty58 said: It would be nice to have a talented and highly respectable manager like Bobby Robson again. Not sure they are allowed to develop or even exist in todays world. Out of interest what aspects of Bobby Robson do you feel are discouraged or frowned upon in today's world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: What has Southgate achieved that is so superior to Robson? We’ve been handed a very easy passage through the qualifiers and we’ve been very lucky that many of the teams you’d expect to be in and around the last 8 have fallen earlier than normal, if you look at Southgate results he has numerous games against the likes of Malta, San Marino, Albania, Lithuania and the like which have bumped up his win %. I’m hoping he turns out to be the real deal but the evidence in front of my eyes tells me he isn't. He equalled his world cup record with a semi final appearance in his 1st tournament and smashed Robson's Euros record (1 failure to qualify and 1 out at the group stage after losing every game) by getting us to a final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: He equalled his world cup record with a semi final appearance in his 1st tournament and smashed Robson's Euros record (1 failure to qualify and 1 out at the group stage after losing every game) by getting us to a final. Not sure that sufficiently qualifies Southgates record as smashing Robsons record, especially as we were at home in the Euros and taking into account the decisions Southgate took on the penalty takers, nor the second half and extra time performance in that match. As far as I am concerned it is not even close on who the best manager is between Robson and Southtgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Bobby Robsons time as England manager comes with heavily rise tinted glasses. Remember what the tabloids wanted then ? https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/31/sir-bobby-robson-media-england-manager I can not take to Southgate but his record in the big tournaments is as good as anyones we have had for a good while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Having the same debate on talksport just now. Some carrot cruncher just been on saying this crop of players are better than the golden generation because they are more together but that's nothing to do with Southgate but all to do with Pep and Klopp. Even though half the bastard sqaud doesnt play for either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 I don't take the talksport pundits seriously, so even less so those that call in... On another note - Wales going to the World Cup and in our group! We have a few in our squad that could make it to Qatar if they have a bright start to the season and could be playing against the likes of Kane and Foden. Jones, MJ, Isgrove, Sheehan, John. I think out of those, Jones and John would be most likely to get in. Wales played with wingbacks in the Ukraine game. Doubt any of our lot would be starters but never know, a few injuries and they could get called up. Surely if Swindon's Jonny Williams can make the squad then these lads have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 Southgate's done a great job. Loads of togetherness and no billy big bollocks farting up the place . The golden generation reside in the turd bowl of history. Would rather have Harry Maguire and John Stones than pricks like Rio and Terry around the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 6, 2022 all the southgate haters have is the knee says it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: all the southgate haters have is the knee says it all its no suprise its the same mob is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Casino said: all the southgate haters have is the knee says it all That’s a good one, not keen on Southgate means you're racist.. a different twist of racial slur, but still casual accusation of racism all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 6, 2022 being anti knee isnt racist i read all about it on here stop putting words in my mouth those kids you love are racist though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Casino said: being anti knee isnt racist i read all about it on here stop putting words in my mouth those kids you love are racist though It’s clear what you meant, you don’t have the bottle to call it though just hidden behind a casual slur. I shall leave it there. Edited June 6, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Other than 1966 our record in tournaments has been sketchy at best. Beaten semi finalists in the WC and beaten finalists in the EC is our best ever performance in successive tournaments. Under the same manager. Yet folk aren't sure about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Casino said: being anti knee isnt racist i read all about it on here stop putting words in my mouth those kids you love are racist though Those kids aren't racist. Their parents are though because that's why it was the kids who were there booing the knee instead. No, those kids aren't racist, they just see things from a different perspective and were voicing their opinion. Obviously a different opinion than that of their racist parents. Edited June 6, 2022 by DazBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mantra said: I don't take the talksport pundits seriously, so even less so those that call in... On another note - Wales going to the World Cup and in our group! We have a few in our squad that could make it to Qatar if they have a bright start to the season and could be playing against the likes of Kane and Foden. Jones, MJ, Isgrove, Sheehan, John. I think out of those, Jones and John would be most likely to get in. Wales played with wingbacks in the Ukraine game. Doubt any of our lot would be starters but never know, a few injuries and they could get called up. Surely if Swindon's Jonny Williams can make the squad then these lads have a chance. England v Wales is on a night we're due to be in action in the Papa John's, so it will have to be moved. They can fit the world cup game in another time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Just now, Marc505 said: England v Wales is on a night we're due to be in action in the Papa John's, so it will have to be moved. They can fit the world cup game in another time. 🤣😂🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, DazBob said: Those kids aren't racist. Their parents are though because that's why it was the kids who were there booing the knee instead. No, those kids aren't racist, they just see things from a different perspective and were voicing their opinion. Obviously a different opinion than that of their racist parents. Aye all 30,000 kids were specially selected because their parents are racists. You racist police taking it to another level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye all 30,000 kids were specially selected because their parents are racists. You racist police taking it to another level. The fact that 30,000 kids were there was due to Hungarian fans being racist. Those kids booed the England players taking the knee - something the players and manager have said they are doing as a stand against racism. You applaud those kids, not for being racist but for seeing things from a different perspective. That's pretty much all I've said. Please point out where I've misinterpreted something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Catching up and probably repeating stuff. Southgate's squads have looked inferior to the players at previous managers' disposal, but ha sachieved better finishing positions in major tournaments, so he muc be doing something right and he's blooding loads of younger players, so we'll end up with a bigger pool of players when they're all more experienced in a few years time. Sounds like good planning to me. As for Hungary, they're racist cunts who had to play behind technically closed doors for being racist cunts. Their kids who were allowed in were also being racist cunts because they've been brought up to be racist cunts by racist cunts. If we stop taking the knee, the Hungarians would still be racist cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Zico said: Out of interest what aspects of Bobby Robson do you feel are discouraged or frowned upon in today's world? Can’t call everyone Carl Cort these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Southgate's done a great job. Loads of togetherness and no billy big bollocks farting up the place . The golden generation reside in the turd bowl of history. Would rather have Harry Maguire and John Stones than pricks like Rio and Terry around the squad. So your saying Maguires not a prick? Really? He a bigger prick than them two put together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted June 6, 2022 Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, woolli said: So your saying Maguires not a prick? Really? He a bigger prick than them two put together! All united players are pricks. And even though he's infinitely shitter He's done more for his country than those 2 rotters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, DazBob said: The fact that 30,000 kids were there was due to Hungarian fans being racist. Those kids booed the England players taking the knee - something the players and manager have said they are doing as a stand against racism. You applaud those kids, not for being racist but for seeing things from a different perspective. That's pretty much all I've said. Please point out where I've misinterpreted something. There are more factors at play than just racism on the booing of the knee, you see it as just a straight forward racist gesture, that’s how you roll, just for clarity as it seems some folk on here like to pigeon hole folk, I’m against any form of racism and my contempt for taking the knee does not mean I am racist nor does it mean 30,000 kids and all their parents are racist. Edited June 6, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: There are more factors at play than just racism on the booing of the knee, you see it as just a straight forward racist gesture, that’s how you role, just for clarity as it seems some folk on here like to pigeon hole folk, I’m against any form of racism and my contempt for taking the knee does not mean I am racist nor does it mean 30,000 kids and all their parents are racist. Just for the record. You're a nice bloke and I don't for one second think you're racist. ... but for a game to be played behind close doors due to consistent racism and then those that actually are allowed to go in and watch the game then boo an anti-racism gesture ... well, you've got to admit that doesn't really come across well does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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