Mounts Kipper Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Do I have to bother joining if I’m a season ticket holder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Suspicious on this one. Only reason I can see them doing this is they want a clean out and regardless of what people think about others etc that’s a slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) The more I think about it the more I'm against it. As well as the point l made about the casual and first time fan being put off. I find this who thing a possible infringement on folks privacy. Why should the club have the right to know the name and address of all it's customers? Imagine if you had to give the cinema, a restaurant etc.. your home details before you could go. It's all a bit too Big Brother for my liking. Edited October 26, 2021 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2021 I agree undies - think this is a massive shoot themselves in the foot scheme. I'm ultimately likely to have to join for away tickets but giving serious consideration to not bothering with the FA cup tie as my little protest against it. I don't see why I should have to join up to a little scheme when i'm already a season ticket holder and lifeline member just for the right to buy an away ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 And what about fan consultation? Looking at posters views on here, more fans are against than for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 If this is a way of stopping morons continually embarrassing our club then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 If you've nowt to hide or nowt to worry about in terms of how you behave at the match then I don't see why you wouldn't sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Kane57 said: If you've nowt to hide or nowt to worry about in terms of how you behave at the match then I don't see why you wouldn't sign up. Exactamundo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DazBob said: If this is a way of stopping morons continually embarrassing our club then I'm all for it. Take this sort of thing to an extreme then it's a national ID system for us all next. It will help them control the social riff-raff will it not Daz 🤔 Edited October 26, 2021 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, Mr Grey said: Correct me if I'm wrong, at the moment if a fan without an ST rings up and wants a ticket to a game, I assume the fan gives his name and address so the ticket can be posted, hence the club has their details. To me it's like being a member of the caravan & camping club, you get benefits on certain campsites etc... Although we have yet to hear about the benefits. Currently you can just call in at the ticket office and buy a ticket without giving any details though. This will no longer be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Underpants said: Take this sort of thing to an extreme then it's a national ID system for us all next. It will help them control the social riff-raff will it not Daz 🤔 I'd have no problem with a Nation ID scheme either. I don't wear a tinfoil hat and think the Government's out to get me,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kane57 said: If you've nowt to hide or nowt to worry about in terms of how you behave at the match then I don't see why you wouldn't sign up. Oh dear. That old argument. Take that thought into the wider world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: I'd have no problem with a Nation ID scheme either. I don't wear a tinfoil hat and think the Government's out to get me,. Neither do I. But I still wouldn't want to give the government or my football club info they don't really need. Edited October 26, 2021 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 What disappoints me most about this isn't the fact it is being introduced, but the lack of a clear explanation of the reasoning behind it. Since day 1 FV have appeared to be open and transparent with the fans, but yesterday's statement was a bit woolly. C'mon, Mrs Brittan, (a) tell us the full story and (b) what's in it for us long-suffring ST holders? Another board with our names on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 26, 2021 Members Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Underpants said: Neither do I. But I still wouldn't want to give the government or my football club info they don't really need. You mean your name and address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy said: You mean your name and address? I'm talking about carrying ID cards in respect of the government. That was the extreme I was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Traf said: What disappoints me most about this isn't the fact it is being introduced, but the lack of a clear explanation of the reasoning behind it. Since day 1 FV have appeared to be open and transparent with the fans, but yesterday's statement was a bit woolly. C'mon, Mrs Brittan, (a) tell us the full story and (b) what's in it for us long-suffring ST holders? Another board with our names on? They should've just said they're doing it as a way to easily identify and ban fans that give a bad name to the club. Surely nobody would have an issue with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Traf said: What disappoints me most about this isn't the fact it is being introduced, but the lack of a clear explanation of the reasoning behind it. Since day 1 FV have appeared to be open and transparent with the fans, but yesterday's statement was a bit woolly. C'mon, Mrs Brittan, (a) tell us the full story and (b) what's in it for us long-suffring ST holders? Another board with our names on? Spot on. Also I think a clear out may take them by surprise of how many they would actually clear out. Slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Anyway I've nothing to hide, signed up this morning. Name: Dan Sinqueen Address: 1815 Waterloo Road Country: Sweden Parents: Mal & Mo Bingo 👌 Parents : Fern & Do , surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 26, 2021 Members Share Posted October 26, 2021 You try and buy a ticket in the home end of premier league clubs with modern stadiums and you need a membership no. It’s a safety aspect and it’s also a requirement to meet certain criteria to host certain games nowadays. So if FV are thinking long term and want to get into the PL then this will happen anyways. If you try and buy an England ticket you need to register your details you even need to be part of the supporters club. You buy gig tickets you have to register. You buy items from a website you need to register your details It’s not an extreme practice. Not sure what the issue is but hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rudy said: ...It’s not an extreme practice. Not sure what the issue is but hey ho Then that's all Sharon & co needed to communicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 26, 2021 Members Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Traf said: Then that's all Sharon & co needed to communicate. Still fairly new to running a club, a business is different you don’t have such an invested group of people that you’re making decisions for. This is probably standard in their business eyes and thought yeah this is what we need to do going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 26, 2021 Members Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Is it reasonable to ask the club their reasons for implementing it ? It's a change in policy, when you change policy a rationale is needed. I personally don't have a problem with it, amongst fans on here it seems a 50/50 split. So far Sharon has been honest and up front, perhaps a follow on statement from the club I needed to put fans minds at rest. Yeah of course. Like I said they aren’t perfect but so far they’ve been brilliant. They will make mistakes and learn from them, probably made as a business decision. Might be part of their long plan and don’t feel like they need to reveal every detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy said: You try and buy a ticket in the home end of premier league clubs with modern stadiums and you need a membership no. It’s a safety aspect and it’s also a requirement to meet certain criteria to host certain games nowadays. So if FV are thinking long term and want to get into the PL then this will happen anyways. If you try and buy an England ticket you need to register your details you even need to be part of the supporters club. You buy gig tickets you have to register. You buy items from a website you need to register your details It’s not an extreme practice. Not sure what the issue is but hey ho The argument goes that this is being forced upon us with little to no consultation, and it is unnecessary. It seems we are all being treated with suspicion and more like customers than fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Is it reasonable to ask the club their reasons for implementing it ? It's a change in policy, when you change policy a rationale is needed. I personally don't have a problem with it, amongst fans on here it seems a 50/50 split. So far Sharon has been honest and up front, perhaps a follow on statement from the club is needed to put fans minds at rest. And if it's a 50/50 split on here amongst a group who are generally pretty reasonable and pro-club, imagine what's going on at Facebook & Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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