Moderators Horwich Posted January 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2022 We aren't going down. We have the worst fan base I know. If we dont win every game about 3-0, they go mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Our recent form is poor can’t win away continually go a goal down can’t score relegation is a possibility staying up is a result for me . IE is safe Shazza believes in him I am 60/40 in support of him but he needs to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Not been on here for a while and was curious to see what the consensus is on Evatt. Like the above, I'm 60/40 for him at the moment but if we continue to limp along but stay up. I don't think I could support him. Starting to feel like the Phil Neal years already and we waited 7 years for him to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, pauldeva said: Not been on here for a while and was curious to see what the consensus is on Evatt. Like the above, I'm 60/40 for him at the moment but if we continue to limp along but stay up. I don't think I could support him. Starting to feel like the Phil Neal years already and we waited 7 years for him to go. Might not have felt like it at the time but I've been through a lot worse periods watching the Whites than the Phil Neal era & he left us much healthier than when he took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I've seen too much destructive change, so want a solid period. It's clear Sharon supports & will back Evatt so we all need to accept tgat & the whiners stop whinging. Our development, steady if not spectacular, is so much better than recent years. Football wise, I prefer constructive & attractive style to big boot, but most of all I prefer winning. Evatt's possession football is OTT in that we pit-pat it along the back but are too slow to convert that to penetration. ... & when we do our failure to convert possession and opportunities to goals is terrible and we need a new box-to-box, driven player & some proper shithousery. I guess he knows much of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Might not have felt like it at the time but I've been through a lot worse periods watching the Whites than the Phil Neal era & he left us much healthier than when he took over. Relegation against Aldershot was pretty low, first time in our history in the fourth division Think I'm right in saying that we were in a lower position when he left than when he took over after 7 years, 13th in league 3 after 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, pauldeva said: Relegation against Aldershot was pretty low, first time in our history in the fourth division Think I'm right in saying that we were in a lower position when he left than when he took over after 7 years, 13th in league 3 after 7 years. No your not right , we were 18th when he became manager . Sadly you seem to forget the season previous to his sacking were we missed promotion by a whisker , coincidentally going on a club record unbeaten run in the process. Edited January 6, 2022 by dusan nikolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: No your not right , we were 18th when he became manager . Sadly you seem to forget the season previous to his sacking were we missed promotion by a whisker , coincidentally going on a club record unbeaten run in the process. Not much progress overall though was it I remember that season well, we came fourth , but we were pathetic in the play offs against Tranmere. I don't think many football fans would be happy with going up 5 places in 7 years. I wasn't happy with a manager using Bolton as a learning job. I'm not calling for Evatt to go, he still has some credit with me but its running out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, pauldeva said: Starting to feel like the Phil Neal years already and we waited 7 years for him to go. Phil Neal relegated us in his 2nd season in charge then when he got us back into this league we pissed about for 3 (or was it 4?) seasons not getting anywhere. Evatts been here 18 months and got us a promotion in his first season. Evatts not been here 18 months! It’s nothing like Phil Neal. Come back in in 6 years and if we are still not getting anywhere you may have a point. This opinion is what’s wrong with current thinking about managers. It’s x-factor thinking, somethings not right in the short term… BOOOO your shit Evatt, vote him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2022 The ones even suggesting he might be on thin ice wanted him out 12 monrgs ago The desire to do #itoldyouso, is pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, desperado said: Phil Neal relegated us in his 2nd season in charge then when he got us back into this league we pissed about for 3 (or was it 4?) seasons not getting anywhere. Evatts been here 18 months and got us a promotion in his first season. Evatts not been here 18 months! It’s nothing like Phil Neal. Come back in in 6 years and if we are still not getting anywhere you may have a point. This opinion is what’s wrong with current thinking about managers. It’s x-factor thinking, somethings not right in the short term… BOOOO your shit Evatt, vote him out. Strawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: The ones even suggesting he might be on thin ice wanted him out 12 monrgs ago The desire to do #itoldyouso, is pathetic Not something you could ever be accused of then? I don't think there are many calling for his head but there are bound to be some questions asked given the alarming loss of form since the early weeks of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Casino said: The ones even suggesting he might be on thin ice wanted him out 12 monrgs ago The desire to do #itoldyouso, is pathetic Another strawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, pauldeva said: Not much progress overall though was it I remember that season well, we came fourth , but we were pathetic in the play offs against Tranmere. I don't think many football fans would be happy with going up 5 places in 7 years. I wasn't happy with a manager using Bolton as a learning job. I'm not calling for Evatt to go, he still has some credit with me but its running out. We stayed down by Goal difference and were only 3 points off top spot , pretty unlucky by anyone's standards and all on a shoestring. The season after we had lost the best midfielder in the division coupled with the play off hangover that hits many teams , meaning 13 place was considered a failure , something that the club would have been satisfied with 7 years earlier , and even in that season we had a great cup run and probably his most important legacy , that of signing Andy Walker . The proof was evident in Rioch's promotion season when the team that beat Preston contained 7/8 of Neal's signings and that's not including the injured Walker . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, desperado said: Phil Neal relegated us in his 2nd season in charge then when he got us back into this league we pissed about for 3 (or was it 4?) seasons not getting anywhere. Evatts been here 18 months and got us a promotion in his first season. Evatts not been here 18 months! It’s nothing like Phil Neal. Come back in in 6 years and if we are still not getting anywhere you may have a point. This opinion is what’s wrong with current thinking about managers. It’s x-factor thinking, somethings not right in the short term… BOOOO your shit Evatt, vote him out. But Evatt reportedly had one of the divisions highest budgets last season , Neal didn't and probably never did in his reign perhaps barring the 87/88 season. Edited January 6, 2022 by dusan nikolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, pauldeva said: Strawman No substance or integrity? Aye ok 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeva Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, desperado said: No substance or integrity? Aye ok 😂 No arguing against something I didnt say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: But Evatt reportedly had one of the divisions highest budgets , Neal didn't and probably never did in his reign , perhaps barring the 87/88 season. I’m not arguing with you on the rights or wrongs of the Phil Neal era. My argument is the comparison between Phil Neals tenure to that of feeling what it’s like now under Evatt…after 18 months! If anything your point backs me up the 2 managers and eras are currently incomparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, desperado said: I’m not arguing with you on the rights or wrongs of the Phil Neal era. My argument is the comparison between Phil Neals tenure to that of feeling what it’s like now under Evatt…after 18 months! If anything your point backs me up the 2 managers and eras are currently incomparable. Evatt has to be given at least 2 more windows and then hopefully we genuinely see his team and then we can perhaps judge him properly, although like Neal he certainly has a stubborn streak . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, dusan nikolic said: Evatt has to be given at least 2 more windows and then hopefully we genuinely see his team and then we can perhaps judge him properly, although like Neal he certainly has a stubborn streak . I’m not too far away from that opinion and if there’s signs of progress then longer. I still maintain this is not “starting to feel like Phil Neals years already” as @pauldeva pointed out. I do agree Paul that things aren’t right and I’m not against valid criticism. But the same questions were being asked this time last year and he came through with the answers. For me, more importantly, it’s a time to trust and support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Not something you could ever be accused of then? I don't think there are many calling for his head but there are bound to be some questions asked given the alarming loss of form since the early weeks of the season. Our squad was decimated by injuries and a Covid outbreak. Our loss of form is nowhere near as alarming as some seem determined to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2022 We came up with three other teams Win our game in hand we would be ever so marginally top of the 4 Its a shame we started so well in a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: Our squad was decimated by injuries and a Covid outbreak. Our loss of form is nowhere near as alarming as some seem determined to believe. Agree with this, however you cant blame folk for getting their knickers in a twist for some of atrocities weve seen on the road in recent weeks. In the grand scheme of things you are correct. We will limp to mid table with some new additions to the sqaud and we go again in the summer after the expected season of consolidation. It was always going to be this way. Obviously this doesnt make it any easier for those stood at Hartlepool, Fleetwood or Stockport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, gonzo said: Agree with this, however you cant blame folk for getting their knickers in a twist for some of atrocities weve seen on the road in recent weeks. In the grand scheme of things you are correct. We will limp to mid table with some new additions to the sqaud and we go again in the summer after the expected season of consolidation. It was always going to be this way. Obviously this doesnt make it any easier for those stood at Hartlepool, Fleetwood or Stockport. Managed to see us not score a goal at Wigan, Cambridge, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Fleetwood, Accrington and Hartlepool so far this season 🙃 And yet Charlton away was a masterclass in counter attacking football and Lincoln away was the most polished BWFC performance I’ve seen in years. No issue at all with us being mid-table, but sooner or later we’re going to have to start winning games against those around or below us, particularly away from home, or we’re going to start getting nervous. I still think there are enough shit teams in this league for us to stay up, but that wasn’t the sort of narrative I was expecting in early October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 6, 2022 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2022 Nor me, mate And if we struggle through and just stay up, with decent luck on the injury front, I'll concede its been a 5 out of 10 However, I fully expect top half and when taking account of the injuries, that'd be a solid 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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