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I think we will be fine, maybe that's too blasé for some on here. But we just need any sort of scrappy win to build some confidence. It will come, perhaps once the transfers are all sorted.

Positives tonight = Charles, Fossey and Jones.

 

Negatives =

- Still major defensive issues and I'm not sure Morley and possibly Dempsey from Gillingham will fix that.

- As a collective the back 4 isn't working. All have weaknesses, I think in particular John although lots of fingers pointed at Santos lately.

- Dixon is probably the number one personnel to fix defensively, having a good GK can really win you points. Gilks proved that last season. Dixon looks diminutive in goal and isn't inspiring any confidence right now.

- Delf isn't good enough, end of but we already knew that. Why did we have to use him? Where were Xav and Kacha tonight? Injured or covid I'm guessing?

- Bakayoko was awful second half and rightfully hooked. Didn't look arsed to compete and win for headers which is concerning. Got a pat on the back from Evatt when he came off, didn't deserve that imo.

- If you're going to play as a central midfielder in a system like this, you need to boss the game. Lee and Thomason weren't capable of that today, even MJ, I didn't think imposed himself on the game enough but he was probably the best of them. Hopefully Morely can bring some quality there. I like Thomason but wasn't in the game enough at all for a CM tonight.

 

All in all, the game tonight was looking positive until we conceded, which is the story of our season. We had a positive spell second half too but the game was over at that point. As many have said Wycombe did a job on us and it's too easy for teams to that at the moment.

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5 hours ago, Cheese said:

So do the vast majority of teams. I don't think conceding is our main issue. It's finishing.

Not as systematically as we do.

Just take a look at our stats of conceding the first goal. It’s staggering and been happening all season long.

I agree we cannot finish or score neither but a 0-0 will be a start.

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Some good you lot would have been in the trenches.

We’re up against it fellas. But we’re still a club in transition and there will be times like these.

Trust Evatt, he got us promoted with a bunch of strangers on the same budget as a Sunday league team.

Some of these players still barely know each other’s names and it shows on the pitch at times.

He’ll get them scrapping, and we won’t be relegated. Show some faith.

The Spider.

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12 minutes ago, Spider said:

Some good you lot would have been in the trenches.

We’re up against it fellas. But we’re still a club in transition and there will be times like these.

Trust Evatt, he got us promoted with a bunch of strangers on the same budget as a Sunday league team.

Some of these players still barely know each other’s names and it shows on the pitch at times.

He’ll get them scrapping, and we won’t be relegated. Show some faith.

The Spider.

Well said

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28 minutes ago, Spider said:

Some good you lot would have been in the trenches.

We’re up against it fellas. But we’re still a club in transition and there will be times like these.

Trust Evatt, he got us promoted with a bunch of strangers on the same budget as a Sunday league team.

Some of these players still barely know each other’s names and it shows on the pitch at times.

He’ll get them scrapping, and we won’t be relegated. Show some faith.

The Spider.

I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with one or two of these players either tbf. We need a couple of hard nosed pros pdq. 

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2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

I wouldn't want to be in the trenches with one or two of these players either tbf. We need a couple of hard nosed pros pdq. 

And there is still time for that to happen.

They don’t stand outside the stadium waiting to be signed. Not the good ones, anyway.

I just find the immediate clamour to jump on Evatt’s back by some fans very tiresome. To turn a football club like ours around from the position it was in will take years. Years.

I understand impatience, but it’s just the way it is.

Build slowly, steadily, like we did with Rioch and I’ll be most pleased.

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1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some good you lot would have been in the trenches.

We’re up against it fellas. But we’re still a club in transition and there will be times like these.

Trust Evatt, he got us promoted with a bunch of strangers on the same budget as a Sunday league team.

Some of these players still barely know each other’s names and it shows on the pitch at times.

He’ll get them scrapping, and we won’t be relegated. Show some faith.

The Spider.

You need to send this to IE and the players it’s them who need to stand up and be counted .

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9 hours ago, Cheese said:

Very frustrating to watch, but reminds me of this time last year, waiting for things to click again. Confident it'll come.

On what basis are you confident? There is nothing in that team that makes me confident we can stay up! Theres nothing on the bench to change it? The injured players are not up for it anyway! This team is in big trouble, i hope im wrong, but cant see anything to be optimistic for. And, Charles will become the new scapegoat, like Doyle, as he wont receive the service to get goals. Not his fault, its the system.

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33 minutes ago, Spider said:

And there is still time for that to happen.

They don’t stand outside the stadium waiting to be signed. Not the good ones, anyway.

I just find the immediate clamour to jump on Evatt’s back by some fans very tiresome. To turn a football club like ours around from the position it was in will take years. Years.

I understand impatience, but it’s just the way it is.

Build slowly, steadily, like we did with Rioch and I’ll be most pleased.

Its boring. He isnt going. Save your time and try and get Boris sacked.

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40 minutes ago, Spider said:

And there is still time for that to happen.

They don’t stand outside the stadium waiting to be signed. Not the good ones, anyway.

I just find the immediate clamour to jump on Evatt’s back by some fans very tiresome. To turn a football club like ours around from the position it was in will take years. Years.

I understand impatience, but it’s just the way it is.

Build slowly, steadily, like we did with Rioch and I’ll be most pleased.

They did it last year. 
Short memories and no patience. Like Horwich says he ain’t going anywhere so have a day off 

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Thought they were much better and barely went into second gear. 

Santos showed again that if he's against a big strong lad who is in his face then he just can't cope.

Some more criticism from Dixon on here about how he doesn't instill confidence in his defence but there's a flip to that, imagine being a keeper and going out to play behind any 4 of ours and think how confident you'd be in them.

My main issue is that IE seems to have a complete inability to make any tactical changes whether personnel or formation or tempo or whatever. It's clear that what we are doing isn't working and hasn't worked for a good while so you have to try to change. It's not an admittance that your long term vision isn't right, it's just the practicality of being a manager.

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Would happily accept staying up on goal difference at this point. I think Ian Evatt has realised the short comings in the team and areas that need prioritising urgently. To call for Evatt to go is ludicrous beyond expression. We use this season to consolidate. Let’s not forget the situation a few years ago. Just a blessing we are in league one. 
Good job there are at least 3 chronic teams in this league. Trust the passing football it will come good. White army. 
 

Mutley
 

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7 hours ago, Rice said:

Agree with a lot of this but not sure the midfield / Lee points are fair, midfield isn’t an area I’m worrying about.

Williams has had injury/COVID lay-offs in the last couple of months, Lee supposedly had a nasty bout of COVID just last week. Would he have played tonight if we weren’t so short at the minute? Who knows 

The signing of Morley and potentially Dempsey tells you Evatt knows that’s an area that needs improvement, and will no doubt strengthen our midfield along with Williams and Lee getting sharper game by game. 

I just think if we ever do go to a back 3 we need a better mix & balance to support & cover the back 3, yes I think Williams or Lee might be ok with the 2 new signings but I wouldn’t rely on those 2 together, Lee is the big concern for me don’t see any physical presence from him and not sure his legs are there for what we would need. I’ll be very happy if 2 new centre mids come in and become first choice picks. 

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10 hours ago, Rudy said:

The way we play Baka should not be playing out wide , it’s utterly pointless 

Absolutely. Square pegs and all that. When he came Evatt said he would offer us something different; yet he rarely ever gets a go in the middle, and he's ineffective wide. It's as if the manager is trying to placate him with a starting place.

 

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Like dapo santos has been found out to certain degree take away his size he offers very little for me

regarding dapo that’s not criticism he’s obviously a talented player when he’s allowed time & space but since the first few months he’s a very much marked man 

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Just now, radcliffe white said:

Like dapo santos has been found out to certain degree take away his size he offers very little for me

regarding dapo that’s not criticism he’s obviously a talented player when he’s allowed time & space but since the first few months he’s a very much marked man 

I thought hed gone off 2nd half, game completely passed him by

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Nearly every player is below par at the moment loss of form / low on confidence. But there's no excuse for not putting a shift. Get Delfonso out of our club. He's played in the Premiership for God's sake. But now he's struggle in a women's football team. Total liability.

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31 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Thought they were much better and barely went into second gear. 

Santos showed again that if he's against a big strong lad who is in his face then he just can't cope.

Some more criticism from Dixon on here about how he doesn't instill confidence in his defence but there's a flip to that, imagine being a keeper and going out to play behind any 4 of ours and think how confident you'd be in them.

My main issue is that IE seems to have a complete inability to make any tactical changes whether personnel or formation or tempo or whatever. It's clear that what we are doing isn't working and hasn't worked for a good while so you have to try to change. It's not an admittance that your long term vision isn't right, it's just the practicality of being a manager.

Agree.

Lack of pragmatism. 

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Dapo and John doesn't seem to work down the left, but mainly Dapo is missing the outlet in the middle of the Park to play a one two or to move things forwards across the otherside to open things up. Thomasson sits too deep and isn't quick enough or positive enough with his passing. Sarce and Sheehan provided more of this and we created more because of this, but as things stand he is completely isolated and being asked to do an impossible task when teams double up on him and he gets no protection from refs. 

Gethin showed last night why we have really missed him on the right, very positive and quick to move things forwards, on the overlap he also looks to get the ball in the box a bit quicker.

Hopefully Morley will offer more support and creativity in the middle to help with the system

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IE took Baka off and play the kid from diversity as a winger and it improved us, the fact no fucker was in the box was the issue.

The lad who curled in the worldie for their second had not scored for nearly 4 years (but like our forwards) but shows when things are not going for you shit happens, 99/100 that goes nowhere. 

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No leaders in the squad.
No bottle
No fight
And a complete lack of organisation at the back.
Evatt was a centre half, Atherton was a centre half and Hird was a centre half and we can't fucking defend.
Santos is no captain and probably doesn't deserve to be in the team but for a lack of plausible replacements.
Aimson has his faults and his detractors, but he stands up to the physical stuff far better than Santos does.

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And let's not even get started on set pieces.
Yes, running and kicking the ball at the same time can be hard for people whose job is it to do that for a living, but for the love of Allah, surely we can kick a stationary ball forwards to one of our own players?

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2 minutes ago, Traf said:

No leaders in the squad.
No bottle
No fight
And a complete lack of organisation at the back.
Evatt was a centre half, Atherton was a centre half and Hird was a centre half and we can't fucking defend.
Santos is no captain and probably doesn't deserve to be in the team but for a lack of plausible replacements.
Aimson has his faults and his detractors, but he stands up to the physical stuff far better than Santos does.

Its ok to say all this without being called a doomonger. Its all true.

We are the easiest team to play against in the league.

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Oh and another thing about free kicks.

Everytime we get one more than 30 yards from goal, there's an almost indecent haste to take it quickly. That can, of course, be a good thing if you create an attack from it, but it's always sideways or backwards inviting pressure, letting the opposition push out, invariably ending us with us passing back to Dixon.

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