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[Casino]

40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I wonder what our rate of scoring from corners is.

We do seem to get quite a few, in particular as a number of our crosses seem to be cut out.

In terms of numbers of goals, we seem to have a decent number from set pieces, so can't grumble. Just wonder if it is the most efficient way of capitalising on our approach play.

short corners are more likely to lead to a goal

[Dr. Feelgood]

59 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I wonder what our rate of scoring from corners is.

We do seem to get quite a few, in particular as a number of our crosses seem to be cut out.

In terms of numbers of goals, we seem to have a decent number from set pieces, so can't grumble. Just wonder if it is the most efficient way of capitalising on our approach play.

I'm sure someone will work out an XG for you.

[W.cramp]

3 hours ago, Traf said:

geddit in the fuckin mixer

Tell you what gets my goat with corners.  When the ref holds the corner up to speak to defender/attacker and then walks back to his spot,  the corner is then taken and the ref blows straight away for a free kick to the defending team.    Why the fuckery doesn't the corner taker just take a short corner ?   

Not somet to lose sleep over but it's off my chest now !

[Wanderlust]

Has there been any definitive news about Santos and Sheehan yet?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

short corners are more likely to lead to a goal

Than what- long corners?

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, W.cramp said:

Tell you what gets my goat with corners.  When the ref holds the corner up to speak to defender/attacker and then walks back to his spot,  the corner is then taken and the ref blows straight away for a free kick to the defending team.    Why the fuckery doesn't the corner taker just take a short corner ?   

Not somet to lose sleep over but it's off my chest now !

It’s always a foul by the attacking team in those situations too, never a penalty. When that happens I don’t know why teams don’t peel off to the edge of the box to remove all the pushing and shoving and then run on to it and then at least there is less chance of giving away a free kick. 

[Casino]

26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Than what- long corners?

if you mean a cross into the box, apparently yes

[Traf]

Surely a traditional 'long' corner is against the way we play the rest of our game?

[DazBob]

6 hours ago, Casino said:

Its something like 1 in 50 corners lead to a goal, on average

Just shows the ignorance of football fans that they expect a goal from one

Wonder what it was when we had Wheater and Beavers?  I reckon it was better than 1 in 50.

[Casino]

6 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Wonder what it was when we had Wheater and Beavers?  I reckon it was better than 1 in 50.

that was probably a period unmatched in the history of football

amazing times

[Eddie]

Didn’t they get about 15 goals between them that season? Unbelievable contribution from your centre back pairing!

[Rizlar]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

Has there been any definitive news about Santos and Sheehan yet?

Don’t think we will hear anything until game day . 

[gonzo]

Those corners we took v Oxford were good. Not seen them since I don't think.

I love Josh Sheehan but christ he can't take a corner.

[Eddie]

Ashworth has been our best corner taker this season IMO.

Reading it looked like we had a plan - identified that the keeper was weak and put it on top of him every time.

Bristol we just gave the lad catching practice and everyone in the box just cleared away so he had a nice easy catch.

I do think they’re exaggerated in terms of supporters thinking they’re a genuine chance vs. how many actually convert into goals but there’s not much more frustrating than seeing them wasted over and over again.

[Dr. Feelgood]

Regarding corners, & I've wondered for ages, as a player is about to take one they often make arm signals (usually both arms raised).

It's reasonable to assume the movements signify 'going deep', 'near post', 'wide, near penalty spot' or something but they don't seem to.

Does anyone know for sure ?

[Cheese]

20 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Regarding corners, & I've wondered for ages, as a player is about to take one they often make arm signals (usually both arms raised).

It's reasonable to assume the movements signify 'going deep', 'near post', 'wide, near penalty spot' or something but they don't seem to.

Does anyone know for sure ?

No.

[L/H White]

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

Wonder what it was when we had Wheater and Beavers?  I reckon it was better than 1 in 50.

Jaidi got 8 in 43 games, sure he went back to back games scoring to?

assuming all 8 must have been from set pieces 

[boltonboris]

15 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

we are at our best when the ball is on the floor, so that's where the deliveries should be.

And yet our fans scream at our defenders to twat it forward 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Casino said:

if you mean a cross into the box, apparently yes

That's fair enough, and perhaps why they don't always beat the first man as they're trying it shorter.

I would imagine that we'd have a higher success rate though if our crossing from open play was a bit more accurate- it is a common source of exasperation on here particularly at D-C.

Great football at times, then blocked for a corner.

[Casino]

if you think back to the days when allardyce scored from the edge of the box every week, prob 3 times, tops, in his career

nd paul jones to a lesser extent, it was percentage stuff, hit the penalty spot, centre back runs in to head it

itd never happen now as defending is just so different

you can rarely get a run at the ball, as defenders just block off, unless its near post and a couple of times toal has pulled it off

refs doing their jobs might make for a more even fight

i think we hit the first man so many times as the delivery is now required to be more precise, in just clearing the defender

 

back to morais, what he did that few months was riduculous, helped by 2 defenders who got a taste for goals

 

beevers later played 90 games for peterborough and didnt score and wheater scored 32 in 400, with 7? or so of them in a few months

tribute to morais and whatever the coaching crew were up to

[Tonge moor green jacket]

The back post one worked rather well at Wembley!

It does depend on good planning though, followed by well timed movement and good delivery.

[radcliffe white]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's fair enough, and perhaps why they don't always beat the first man as they're trying it shorter.

I would imagine that we'd have a higher success rate though if our crossing from open play was a bit more accurate- it is a common source of exasperation on here particularly at D-C.

Great football at times, then blocked for a corner.

Shocking at times regarding first man or we even over cook it

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The back post one worked rather well at Wembley!

It does depend on good planning though, followed by well timed movement and good delivery.

we also had a spell under rioch where seagraves became the go to for the near post flick on

maybe it was brown

regardless, we score our share

maybe we could score more but we are not stand out shite

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Shocking at times regarding first man or we even over cook it

Jones is a decent crosser, but doesn't possess the pace of D-C. He wouldn't have scored that goal recently where D-C got on the end of the long ball.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

we also had a spell under rioch where seagraves became the go to for the near post flick on

maybe it was brown

regardless, we score our share

maybe we could score more but we are not stand out shite

I agree, we have definitely improved in this area.

Some clever ones too- would like to see a bit more of them. There was one played to the edge of the area, and then eventually back to Williams who bent in a blinder.