Moderators Casino Posted July 27, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: If, it is as bad as you say, then the club would distance themselves from it. not if they are a nodding dog just look at how it works the same faces are on the committee, off the committee then back on its a revolving door fwiw, if we are wrong, they could get their arses on here and explain why? no reason why they should try to engage with wways, but an offer was informally made just weeks ago i understand they claim to be trying to appeal to a wider group im still waiting for even a go and get fucked could a member tell me where the legends day funds ended up - take it theyve a few grand in the bank after that, or did it go the the BWFCCT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted July 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Casino said: not if they are a nodding dog just look at how it works the same faces are on the committee, off the committee then back on its a revolving door fwiw, if we are wrong, they could get their arses on here and explain why? no reason why they should try to engage with wways, but an offer was informally made just weeks ago i understand they claim to be trying to appeal to a wider group im still waiting for even a go and get fucked could a member tell me where the legends day funds ended up - take it theyve a few grand in the bank after that, or did it go the the BWFCCT Surely income and expenditure will appear on a balance sheet at their AGM. They do have an AGM don’t they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 27, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 27, 2022 id expect them to email a set of accounts to the members hence my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted July 27, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Casino said: id expect them to email a set of accounts to the members hence my question Perhaps the folk they encourage to become members are also encouraged not to ask searching questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 22 hours ago, MickyD said: Perhaps the folk they encourage to become members are also encouraged not to ask searching questions. All the more reason to become a member then? Accusations banded about, about the governance, but nothing done about it. Folk being elected, then coming off the committee, then back on- that isn't necessarily unconstitutional, it might indicate (as I've said previously) that some board members want off, but maybe no one is showing to take over. If it is corrupt, the the club will want something done, and for obvious reasons, his nodding dog comment (whatever that is actually supposed to mean) on the face of it would suggest the club would be happy to turn a blind eye, which they categorically wouldn't. Sharon has pitched herself well away from such behaviours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 28, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 28, 2022 i havent said they corrupt i just asked if they published accounts if they go along with all harts plans, of course they will remain 'well in' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: All the more reason to become a member then? Accusations banded about, about the governance, but nothing done about it. Folk being elected, then coming off the committee, then back on- that isn't necessarily unconstitutional, it might indicate (as I've said previously) that some board members want off, but maybe no one is showing to take over. If it is corrupt, the the club will want something done, and for obvious reasons, his nodding dog comment (whatever that is actually supposed to mean) on the face of it would suggest the club would be happy to turn a blind eye, which they categorically wouldn't. Sharon has pitched herself well away from such behaviours. I think you’re looking for a reaction from completely the opposite direction with regards the nodding dog accusation. I think it is perhaps the ST nodding in agreement with the board rather than the board nodding in agreement with the ST. Surely it’d be in Neil Hart’s favour to have a ST who sat there agreeing with him and stroking his ego rather than one with lots of ah-butting and constantly throwing up obstacles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, MickyD said: I think you’re looking for a reaction from completely the opposite direction with regards the nodding dog accusation. I think it is perhaps the ST nodding in agreement with the board rather than the board nodding in agreement with the ST. Surely it’d be in Neil Hart’s favour to have a ST who sat there agreeing with him and stroking his ego rather than one with lots of ah-butting and constantly throwing up obstacles. What do you think the ST should be railing against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: What do you think the ST should be railing against? Maybe they should be asking the 'supporters they represent' this. As you have seen above though they have no interest. They can fuck off the nobheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, barryk32 said: Maybe they should be asking the 'supporters they represent' this. As you have seen above though they have no interest. They can fuck off the nobheads You can contact them for free, or join up as a member for £10 a year. I doubt they've got a database of every single Bolton supporter in the world, or the facilities to contact every single one of us. What is it you think they should be railing against? Edited July 28, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cheese said: You can contact them for free, or join up as a member for £10 a year. I doubt they've got a database of every single Bolton supporter in the world, or the facilities to contact every single one of us. What is it you think they should be railing against? This site has contacted them, as have others. They've been fired off. Folk have even tried to join the board (from memory you needed to be accepted then seconded by a current board member). They've been fired off. I think they should answer the questions posed to them when they post on Facebook such as Casinos. They dont though, they just delete the comments. Not fit for purpose comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, barryk32 said: This site has contacted them, as have others. They've been fired off. Folk have even tried to join the board (from memory you needed to be accepted then seconded by a current board member). They've been fired off. I think they should answer the questions posed to them when they post on Facebook such as Casinos. They dont though, they just delete the comments. Not fit for purpose comes to mind What is the Club doing that you think the ST should be railing against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: What is the Club doing that you think the ST should be railing against? Cashless nailed on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Cheese said: What is the Club doing that you think the ST should be railing against? Its more what are the ST doing? What do they do? The questions been asked but they never answer. What do they want my tenner for? If I ask someone for money I let them know what services they are receiving. What services are they providing and how have they spent the hundreds of thousands people have already paid out. Why do they refuse to answer this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, barryk32 said: Its more what are the ST doing? What do they do? The questions been asked but they never answer. What do they want my tenner for? If I ask someone for money I let them know what services they are receiving. What services are they providing and how have they spent the hundreds of thousands people have already paid out. Why do they refuse to answer this? They answer all of that on their website. https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/join-the-trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cheese said: They answer all of that on their website. https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/join-the-trust Thats an awful lot of writing without saying that they've actually done anything. The ACV is a load of bollocks, it just gave them first dibs on the stadium, if they are scraching round for tenners its worthless. I prefer to look here https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBWFCST where they show all the great work they're doing. I'll save you scrolloing through, it doesnt mention anything they've done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Cheese said: They answer all of that on their website. https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/join-the-trust Indeed £14k a year to run their web site. from £7k income from members. No wonder they need my £10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, barryk32 said: Thats an awful lot of writing without saying that they've actually done anything. The ACV is a load of bollocks, it just gave them first dibs on the stadium, if they are scraching round for tenners its worthless. I prefer to look here https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBWFCST where they show all the great work they're doing. I'll save you scrolloing through, it doesnt mention anything they've done Then don't join them. You still haven't said what it is you think they should be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said: Indeed £14k a year to run their web site. from £7k income from members. No wonder they need my £10. Where are those figures from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: Where are those figures from? 17 minutes ago, Cheese said: They answer all of that on their website. https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/join-the-trust HTH https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/about-us/trust-documents Accounts YE 21 Edited July 28, 2022 by ZiggyStardust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: HTH https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/about-us/trust-documents Accounts YE 21 Wow. @Zico Is £1,166.66 a month to run a website like that reasonable..... Or.... Do you suspect shenanigans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: HTH https://www.bwfcst.co.uk/about-us/trust-documents Accounts YE 21 £7k was for "Website development" so that's virtually a one-off expense, so you can halve the "£14k a year to run their website" Fair enough though. At least they're transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: £7k was for "Website development" so that's virtually a one-off expense, so you can halve the "£14k a year to run their website" Fair enough though. At least they're transparent. was the 4k development the year before, a one -off too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: was the 4k development the year before, a one -off too ? No idea. It depends whether they had to have the site re-configured for new Windows/iOS/android devices. Probably something like that. If the money was spent on something sinister I'm sure they'd find a better way to hide it. Falsifying accounts is a pretty big deal... You could always ask them? Edited July 28, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted July 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: was the 4k development the year before, a one -off too ? Thanks for that Ziggy. I've looked and the answer to where the money goes is there. It's literally all spent on website and social media bills. I have a website and social media. I dont spend 10% of that and the turnover far excedes the ST. I wonder how they found the IT company who deals with this for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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