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13 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The club they purport to be fans of should be demoted from the league, or shut down.

 

They already have been! From what I can gather it's supporters of Bury FC (aka F*ck the Phoenix) who caused the trouble and are responsible for threats on social media etc.  They're urging for a No vote to the merger.  They own Gigg Lane but have no team and won't get 450K promised by the Council if they vote No.

The other lot, AFC, have a team that's thriving in the NW Counties and if merged could play at Gigg and have a reasonable attempt at getting back into the league.  All the antagonism they've faced from the other lot, I imagine may lead to many of them now voting No too.

2 bald men fighting over a comb.

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2 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

They already have been! From what I can gather it's supporters of Bury FC (aka F*ck the Phoenix) who caused the trouble and are responsible for threats on social media etc.  They're urging for a No vote to the merger.  They own Gigg Lane but have no team and won't get 450K promised by the Council if they vote No.

The other lot, AFC, have a team that's thriving in the NW Counties and if merged could play at Gigg and have a reasonable attempt at getting back into the league.  All the antagonism they've faced from the other lot, I imagine may lead to many of them now voting No too.

2 bald men fighting over a comb.

Then afc should be able to take them to court and buy the ground from the dinosaurs. 

If they've got no team, then how are they funding the upkeep of Gigg etc?

Certainly can't expect any council funding.

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3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Then afc should be able to take them to court and buy the ground from the dinosaurs. 

If they've got no team, then how are they funding the upkeep of Gigg etc?

Certainly can't expect any council funding.

Yep.  Utterly bonkers.  An old colleague who's against the merger thinks the Council will still fund them (FC) anyway, when they've no team to speak of.  Splitting an already small fanbase can't work for either side.

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10 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Yep.  Utterly bonkers.  An old colleague who's against the merger thinks the Council will still fund them (FC) anyway, when they've no team to speak of.  Splitting an already small fanbase can't work for either side.

The town has no appetite for a football team other than ones with the name Manchester on it. As @Trafpointed out. A favourite son convinced his billionaire mate to pump money into a Man U vanity project a few miles away. We won’t see them again if they split. Oh well.

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8 minutes ago, tomski said:

The town has no appetite for a football team other than ones with the name Manchester on it. As @Trafpointed out. A favourite son convinced his billionaire mate to pump money into a Man U vanity project a few miles away. We won’t see them again if they split. Oh well.

Don’t agree with that, there’s obviously an appetite you could say that about loads of small clubs where all you see is shirt wearers from premiership clubs

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7 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Don’t agree with that, there’s obviously an appetite you could say that about loads of small clubs where all you see is shirt wearers from premiership clubs

You could say that about plenty of places, that I agree. 

Fc Man U we’re getting bigger gates on at gigg lane than Bury fc. Loads are two timers with premier league clubs or more rags/massives. 

Felt sorry for the minority that followed them and just them but the town has turned their back on the club through apathy.

Amazed how anyone wants them to continue as AFC as 3 years ago they all supported historic Bury fc

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Don’t agree with that, there’s obviously an appetite you could say that about loads of small clubs where all you see is shirt wearers from premiership clubs

When my lad was at a cricket club in Bury for a while, there were quite a few Bury fans in amongst the entourage.

Some of the toxicity spouted about us was quite surprising from 'decent' folk. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some of our lot would do similar with other clubs, however the open hatred was a touch surprising in the circumstances, and since then I've had nowt but disregard for them. Wasn't too fussed previously, but I wouldn't put a penny in a bucket outside the UniBol if they appeared again.

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1 minute ago, tomski said:

You could say that about plenty of places, that I agree. 

Fc Man U we’re getting bigger gates on at gigg lane than Bury fc. Loads are two timers with premier league clubs or more rags/massives. 

Felt sorry for the minority that followed them and just them but the town has turned their back on the club through apathy.

Amazed how anyone wants them to continue as AFC as 3 years ago they all supported historic Bury fc

 

 

 

They could rename themselves again, the main thing though is to have a team. 

Anyway, sod em.

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1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

When my lad was at a cricket club in Bury for a while, there were quite a few Bury fans in amongst the entourage.

Some of the toxicity spouted about us was quite surprising from 'decent' folk. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some of our lot would do similar with other clubs, however the open hatred was a touch surprising in the circumstances, and since then I've had nowt but disregard for them. Wasn't too fussed previously, but I wouldn't put a penny in a bucket outside the UniBol if they appeared again.

This is where I am. In fact, I reckon all Bury fans must’ve moved to Morecambe because that’s the level of hate.

Fuck ‘em.

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They asked us for money years ago, lots of us donated.

They asked us to attend a fixture when we had no game, so we did. We spent most of that game listening to sick chants about Nat Lofthouse and loads of anti-Bolton songs.

They took great delight in Ken Anderson taking us towards the abyss.

Fuck 'em, I hope they never come back.

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1 hour ago, MickyD said:

This is where I am. In fact, I reckon all Bury fans must’ve moved to Morecambe because that’s the level of hate.

Fuck ‘em.

The definition of a Bowtoner ... a good memory & an acute sense of vengeance. 

Long may it be so. 

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6 hours ago, Traf said:

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Fuck off and die, Bury.

Aye though tbf, at that strange time, plenty were still pro ken and took offence at the fgr owning speaking out against him 

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1 hour ago, Zico said:

Aye though tbf, at that strange time, plenty were still pro ken and took offence at the fgr owning speaking out against him 

That's fair, but it's one thing our own fans supporting him, but having a local 'rival' doing it is another.

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31 minutes ago, Traf said:

That's fair, but it's one thing our own fans supporting him, but having a local 'rival' doing it is another.

They knew 

Might even have been Bolton fans 

Might have been Bolton fans who went in the away end who then went for the Bolton fans in the home end 

Whatever though 

Fuck bury

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I passionately wanted them to go under after the Nat Lofthouse flag and songs about Muamba ... then on the local news there was a feature on an old bloke who'd been going to Gigg Lane all his life and now he didn't know what to do with himself.  My heart broke for him and my stance softened.

Ultimately though, whilst there will be a few cases such as that old bloke, the vast majority of the town just don't give a fuck. They call Manchester "Town" and call Bury "Bury".  Fucking oddballs.  When questioned why they support either City or the Rags their justification was because Bury is in Manchester.  When the club folded far less people cared than should have done so.

I hope, for the sake of that old duffer alone, they do get football back at Gigg Lane, but the town as a whole really doesn't deserve it to ... and looking at the squabbling that is currently going on, it could well be that it never happens.  The old bloke will inevitably die before long (if he hasn't already done so) and I can go back to not being arsed again.

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4 hours ago, DazBob said:

I passionately wanted them to go under after the Nat Lofthouse flag and songs about Muamba ... then on the local news there was a feature on an old bloke who'd been going to Gigg Lane all his life and now he didn't know what to do with himself.  My heart broke for him and my stance softened.

I hope, for the sake of that old duffer alone, they do get football back at Gigg Lane, but the town as a whole really doesn't deserve it to ... and looking at the squabbling that is currently going on, it could well be that it never happens.  The old bloke will inevitably die before long (if he hasn't already done so) and I can go back to not being arsed again.

My sympathies are also for the genuine stories of something akin to grief when your club is no longer there.  There were other stories I heard of family routines where you basically only see your grandparents or uncle regularly because you meet up for the game.  We all have mates and/or see family members that are based almost exclusively on either going to or discussing the game.  It doesn't matter how many 17 year olds lacking brain cells choose to behave like bell ends in the name of being a Bury fan or a Bolton-hater, it doesn't alter the real lives that are affected when a club, no matter how big or small, goes under.  That could so easily have been us and yes there would have been Wigan, Bury, Tranmere fans dancing on our graves partly because of the impression they have of us due to the behaviour of the few, not the majority.

PS that old bloke you mention, I remember going to Gigg Lane a few times in the 80s and 90s and he became a "steward" (well he had a flourescent jacket on while watching the game from the main stand, this was not a job like being in the away end for Utd v Leeds).  He looked well past it then so he's doing well if he's still around!

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