Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 8, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2022 My lad has been collecting Bolton shirts for a while and has left all the unframed ones at home. Just been going through them. This thing must've passed me by. I have no recollection of this sponsor. Seems a bit small-time so I'm guessing Phil Neal era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 8, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2022 Can't remember it neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 id say its more likely a shirt used on some corporate day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Companies house suggests it stopped being Alexander Howden Group on 1st Jan 1985 so it's from before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 8, 2022 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Casino said: id say its more likely a shirt used on some corporate day Just spoke to lad. Possibly a testimonial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 trying to think who would have worn that vintage chandler, came, darby msg em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Looking at Simon Marsland's book that shirt, by Umbro, with that collar and shoulder piping was used in 1982-3, 1983-4, 1984-5 during which we were main-sponsored by TSB, then HB & HB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 8, 2022 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2022 Quite often, following the last game of the season, the club allowed teams to play on the hallowed turf (at a cost). I’m wondering if this AH company did things a bit flash and kitted their team out with specially printed shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 that was my initial thought but could just as easily be the testimonial idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba O'Riley Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Pretty certain we did not sell a replica kit at this time, which suggests it is match worn but not by the 1st team. There was a very cheap looking version of the home shirt available at the Happy Shop without the Umbro branding or shirt sponsor, and with “Bolton Wanderers FC” around the badge in red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Baba O'Riley said: Pretty certain we did not sell a replica kit at this time, which suggests it is match worn but not by the 1st team. There was a very cheap looking version of the home shirt available at the Happy Shop without the Umbro branding or shirt sponsor, and with “Bolton Wanderers FC” around the badge in red. rings true i think one just after had red involved in the v neck, which was the first one you could buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Could it not be an amateur team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted June 8, 2022 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Could it not be an amateur team? Don’t know. It’s genuine Umbro. I would imagine they’d require the permission of BWFC to make a run of extra shirts with the club logo on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I can't see us doing testimonials at that time as we was flying down the leagues, can't think who would of stayed with us from 1975-85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, MickyD said: Don’t know. It’s genuine Umbro. I would imagine they’d require the permission of BWFC to make a run of extra shirts with the club logo on. Maybe an old kit with the sponsor put on afterwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Did we not have a sponsor in 1985 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Maybe that firm just put it on themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Did we not have a sponsor in 1985 then? think that might have been HB or even Normid thats the shirt i was describing and fan shirts didnt have sponsors on and were, from memory, all long sleeved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Benny The Ball Posted June 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, MickyD said: My lad has been collecting Bolton shirts for a while and has left all the unframed ones at home. Just been going through them. This thing must've passed me by. I have no recollection of this sponsor. Seems a bit small-time so I'm guessing Phil Neal era. Have not posted on here for a good while , but log on most days to have a mooch and keep myself up to date. Have to say I find this shirt quite fascinating and have never seen one before and thanks for posting It did get me thinking You see far from being small time, Alexander Howden Group came into existence in late 1984 when Alexander Howden Insurance Brokers changed their name. So the earliest this shirt dates from is December 1984 I worked in the Insurance Industry from the mid 80s through to early 90s and knew of them Even in the mid 80s they were a decent size outfit - in 1986 for example -quick check at companies house - turnover was £55 million So whilst yes it could have been a kit for some obscure game they sponsored , or maybe they bought a batch of our shirts, given the timing - our kit changed again as someone has pointed out at the start of the 1985/6 season when we renewed sponsorship with HB Electronics- could it have an alternative explanation ? Could it be one of a batch mocked up for Howdens as we were at the time in discussions with them as potential sponsors ? The club was in deep financial trouble at the time, desperate for cash and was always on the lookout for new opportunities - mean to say they did the normid deal just 12 months later I dont have an answer , but throw this up as a possibility because 12 years later in 1997 with turnover over £100 million Alexander Howden Group changed their name again - to one most people are familiar with particularly as football shirt sponsors - AON Limited How different our history may have been had they sponsored us back then and we had never got into bed with Normid - we could still have been playing at Burnden Park ! Anyway - its pure speculation but I do hope someone can give us a definitive answer on this shirts origin BTW http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Bolton_Wanderers/Bolton_Wanderers.htm is a useful source of information on our kit & sponsors Edited June 8, 2022 by Benny The Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 8, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2022 Cracking stuff, benjamin @MickyDi think @Underpantsmight have simon marlands contact details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 @MickyDdownload an app called Google lens and take a photo of the shirt. See if it finds out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) ... Edited June 8, 2022 by ErnestTurnip I must be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Benny The Ball said: You see far from being small time, Alexander Howden Group came into existence in late 1984 when Alexander Howden Insurance Brokers changed their name. So the earliest this shirt dates from is December 1984 AHG existed long before then if this is correct, depends on which entity u are looking at: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00546833 Edited June 8, 2022 by ErnestTurnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, L/H White said: @MickyDdownload an app called Google lens and take a photo of the shirt. See if it finds out that will probably link straight back to here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Traf said: that will probably link straight back to here! I wouldn't surprise me Worth a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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