Dr. Feelgood Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ani said: Sheehan coming back from best part of a year out will need time. We ended up with Tequila in the Lee role yesterday, Morley )who is a great player btw) and MJ both knackerred. And Sheehan is not a midfield bastard 😁 It is all about opinions and not sure how much of yesterdays game you saw or if you went ( not a dig btw if you did n't) but second half we were getting over run and had nothing on bench , hopefully the 'knock' Dempsey got was an injury rather than a knock on the door but he has not had a run in the side yet and I just think an extra body there would make a real difference. I didn't see it and understand well that it will take time for Sheehan to settle, just pointing out that with Dempsey out and Sheehan due I don't think we can simply go around collecting midfielders. Especially after being stretched by a team who will be there or thereabouts come May. I feel that a Karl Henry style hardman with footballing ability is a miss in the squad but maybe Evatt doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Dr. Feelgood said: I didn't see it and understand well that it will take time for Sheehan to settle, just pointing out that with Dempsey out and Sheehan due I don't think we can simply go around collecting midfielders. Especially after being stretched by a team who will be there or thereabouts come May. I feel that a Karl Henry style hardman with footballing ability is a miss in the squad but maybe Evatt doesn't. Fair enough. I think the introduction of 5 subs means thinking may change. You are basically changing half your team. On a separate note Ipswich have a lot of fans who wear the kit and I thought they were very quiet for most of the game which surprised me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I think we already have the solution in our squad Johnson to step in the MJ Role Iredale to step into the left hand side of the 3 problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Though i am in no way writing MJ off.....just options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Good starting point which we’d all taken before the game, couple of players not at their best but no dramas long arse journey with one missing on way back😀, ipswich are shirt nonces everyone wears them same with Norwich must be a thing that way need everyone at the races against Wycombe next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 31, 2022 Members Share Posted July 31, 2022 100% confident that come the end of the season, this result will be looked on as a proper good un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTheRave Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Enjoyed the game and very happy with a point. Thought there was a period in the first half we were very good. They were the better team second half. Like the look of the Liverpool kid. Very promising start to the season. Come On You Whites!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Ani said: Fair enough. I think the introduction of 5 subs means thinking may change. You are basically changing half your team. On a separate note Ipswich have a lot of fans who wear the kit and I thought they were very quiet for most of the game which surprised me. To be fair we never shut up and gave them the chance to pipe up…. That was some effort by our lot, by god our fans were up for it yesterday. Regarding yesterdays performance we didn’t control possession like we normally do, that didn’t help our legs and in particular our midfield, also very hot down there, we did well to hang on for the point with only 1 CDM available and even when Dempsey is in the squad I’d like another specialist CDM to be drafted in as and when we can find one to fit our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Arse went a couple of times when they broke in the box and Santos won the ball off them. He is still looking a bit cumbersome and WILL give penalties away this season. But he was pretty immense when needed. Harping on and on like a broken record… he needs to be scoring half a dozen goals a season. That corner from Morley that was met by Dapo - it needed a “Big Sam” bullet header from our centre half. I really do think this is part of his game that could be pushed and pushed. Unless of course, the master stroke is for him to be the decoy for someone else to pile in with the header. Would love us to try the nearpost flick-on corner from time-to-time, used to be a great source of goals. Edited July 31, 2022 by Smiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 hours ago, MickyD said: I doubt Dapo would ever be happy with being an impact sub. I wonder if starter at home games and impact at away games would work. We did it a few times last season. Evatt has told them its a long long season and everyone will play a part. For me, it’s got to be a horses for courses approach - especially with tough away games. He looked quite lively early on and they were definitely aware of him and unsure how to handle. I think that would have been an interesting scenario later in the game. With Evatt patting him on the back and telling him “go out there son and win us the game!”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I still think Dapo is more dangerous down the left and cutting in which means we can have either Bod or Baka up top with Dion. As for midfield it’ll be interesting to see where Toal will play when fit. I’m presuming he’ll replace Johnson so with our weakness in Defensive midfield maybe we could groom Johnson or Iredale for that position? I like Johnson but he strikes me as slightly small for a CB and might do better in midfield longer term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: I still think Dapo is more dangerous down the left and cutting in which means we can have either Bod or Baka up top with Dion. As for midfield it’ll be interesting to see where Toal will play when fit. I’m presuming he’ll replace Johnson so with our weakness in Defensive midfield maybe we could groom Johnson or Iredale for that position? I like Johnson but he strikes me as slightly small for a CB and might do better in midfield longer term. I agree he’s better on the left but think Evatt wants to go with 3-5-2 so no place for Dapo unless he’s playing either up top or number 10, his body language wasn’t great either when Lee went off and Baka was passing on info from the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Thought MJ did ok but was over run in that midfield second half. He never stopped tho and credit to him. Starting to get a bit uneasy about Dempsey. He should be a key player but it's been one thing after another with him. Injuries and now this off the field business. Hoping he us actually going to get a run in the team at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 31, 2022 Moderators Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Max Cherry said: Thought MJ did ok but was over run in that midfield second half. He never stopped tho and credit to him. Starting to get a bit uneasy about Dempsey. He should be a key player but it's been one thing after another with him. Injuries and now this off the field business. Hoping he us actually going to get a run in the team at some point. Aye, I've still not seen anything from Dempsey to suggest he'll be a regular starter or someone who can make a difference Not even sure who he'd replace from MJ, Morley and Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Ani said: We need a midfield bastard ! Being saying it all summer ! I’ve been saying and thinking this for years! But do they actually exist anymore? With the powder-puff rules and regs these days, looking at an opposing player gets you a yellow card these days. Long gone are the crunching tackles where you took the ball and the man – moments that I felt were just as skilful as back flicks and mazy dribbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Smiley said: I’ve been saying and thinking this for years! But do they actually exist anymore? With the powder-puff rules and regs these days, looking at an opposing player gets you a yellow card these days. Long gone are the crunching tackles where you took the ball and the man – moments that I felt were just as skilful as back flicks and mazy dribbles. I also agree with you and Ani Smiley, we need a true strongman and ball winner in midfield but that doesn’t mean he has to be a leg breaker. As you say, you can’t do that today but winning 50/50 balls and having body strength doesn’t mean you can’t win tackles fairly. The ability to break up opponents attacks is critical for any team and we’ve lacked that for years. Winning the ball then giving it to the creative players is what all successful teams have done and I feel that’s just the element we’re missing to turn a good squad into a winning one. The problem is where do you find these players as there aren’t many about which is why I suggested we possibly create our own from within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 First hangover in 2 months and I have to say I've not missed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Marc505 said: First hangover in 2 months and I have to say I've not missed them. Wasn’t bad before the game but hammered it on the way back,Mr Grey was dishing his Russian vodka out for fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted July 31, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Wasn’t bad before the game but hammered it on the way back,Mr Grey was dishing his Russian vodka out for fun No wonder he was giving it away, it was like paint stripper.😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Wasn’t bad before the game but hammered it on the way back,Mr Grey was dishing his Russian vodka out for fun Absolutely dreadful that, could have cleaned the bog out using it 🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steejay said: No wonder he was giving it away, it was like paint stripper.😝 2 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Absolutely dreadful that, could have cleaned the bog out using it 🤢 Even those young lads who was drinking literally anything said no thanks😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Even those young lads who was drinking literally anything said no thanks😀 Dion Charles will be struggling this morning 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Smiley said: Arse went a couple of times when they broke in the box and Santos won the ball off them. He is still looking a bit cumbersome and WILL give penalties away this season. But he was pretty immense when needed. Harping on and on like a broken record… he needs to be scoring half a dozen goals a season. That corner from Morley that was met by Dapo - it needed a “Big Sam” bullet header from our centre half. I really do think this is part of his game that could be pushed and pushed. Unless of course, the master stroke is for him to be the decoy for someone else to pile in with the header. Would love us to try the nearpost flick-on corner from time-to-time, used to be a great source of goals. I agree its frustrating, and fairly incredible, that he never scores or looks like scoring, but I don't see it changing. In some ways we may be underestimating the skill involved in scoring from headers, directing the ball accurately whilst getting enough power, whilst getting away from your marker. Bod has that ability, it doesn't just hit him, he knows how to finish with his head; ALF had it, maybe Madine did although he missed enough too. Santos has a lot of qualities but he wasn't born with that one. I would consider not even sending him up for corners because if he wins the ball its normally a goal kick to the opposition, they probably want him to win it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Absolutely dreadful that, could have cleaned the bog out using it 🤢 Sounded like it could've done with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted July 31, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: Sounded like it could've done with it I can still smell that bog. Made Burnden seem pleasant smelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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