Brand Evatt

[masi 51]

19 minutes ago, Casino said:

Youre saying what cheese is saying, ffs

he is saying without our spine getting injured we would of got promotion......I am say saying our squad was not good enough period,

We got found out after Christmas this was as much if not more to blame than our injuries.

Baxter, Santos, Sheehan and Charles played against Oxford and a rank bad Barnsley.......Our downfall had little to do with injuries

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Blimey I've not heard that line from you for weeks, never fails to cause hilarity.

Always happy to discuss Wanderers players because we all see them differently and have players we like or dislike, no problem you don't rate him. 

Or just throw in disrespectful snide comments, whatever floats your boat.

Bloody hell are you OK?

Chill the fuck out jesus christ. 

When he signed I was reliably informed by Millwall fans that he was very silky, had a belting touch but ultimately flattered to deceive. He struggled with keeping fit and couldn't handle aggressive centre halves.

In my eyes all that is exactly what he turned out to be.

I just never got the hype with him, especially when we had Dion and Vic doing a perfectly good job but our fans didn't seem satisfied with that and constantly clamoured for Bod. He just never shone when he was given the chance.

When the going got tough he was nowhere to been seen and like I say missed numerous chances he should've buried.

Running about a lot and having a lovely touch just wasn't enough for me. 

The fact nobody in this country wanted to sign him after being released and he's now in Iceland says it all about his level.

I get you like the lad, bit fuck me there's no need to get all defensive ya big tart.

[ZiggyStardust]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

if you think the answer is no, then we did pretty well coming third?

and if you think the answer is yes, then we can put it down to injuries

id do one of those shrugs i'm confused things but ive no idea how 

 

 

I think we overachieved, purely based on our inability to beat the 'good' sides, or the local derbys, when it mattered.

And it didnt matter the makeup of the XI, be it the strongest lineup, or squad players.

I think both Barnsleys & Peterboros strongest team were better than us on paper last season, alongside the two promoted teams. I think our squad was better than theirs, so we could handle injuries better than them.

 

[masi 51]

46 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

he is saying without our spine getting injured we would of got promotion......I am say saying our squad was not good enough period,

We got found out after Christmas this was as much if not more to blame than our injuries.

Baxter, Santos, Sheehan and Charles played against Oxford and a rank bad Barnsley.......Our downfall had little to do with injuries

Went back to look at the team that beat Oxford 5-0  Coleman and  Bodvarsson started in that game  Baxter and Charles did not feature

[gonzo]

Charles wasn't remotely fit when he came back and was having pain killing injections before the game and taking painkillers during the game.

[wakey]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Charles wasn't remotely fit when he came back and was having pain killing injections before the game and taking painkillers during the game.

We all see things different, but as I remember it Dion had been bobbins for weeks pre-injury. Remember thinking it might do him / us good to have a break.

I also remember him missing plenty sitters, but not Bod (unless you count the worldie save at Derby), but that's not a comment on which I'd rather have starting up front.

All history now though. More interested in seeing how the next few weeks pans out.

(and definitely not clear cut on who has the girliest hair 😁)

[radcliffe white]

We can talk about this all night there was many factors why we didn’t go up, but anyone who thinks it was solely down to injuries are puddled 

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

We can talk about this all night there was many factors why we didn’t go up, but anyone who thinks it was solely down to injuries are puddled 

Nobody does. But take one of the factors away then who knows what would've happened. If my auntie had bollocks and all that.

We weren't that far away that it needed the manager to invent some crazy system that left a 2 man midfield anyway. 

The fact he's recognised that and realised it was a fuck up can only be a good thing. 

Let's hope he realises his subs are crap next and changes that bit

[Roger_Dubuis]

17 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

We can talk about this all night there was many factors why we didn’t go up, but anyone who thinks it was solely down to injuries are puddled 

Correct. Baxter, Santos, Sheehan and Charles all played against Oxford at Wembley but Evatt couldn't get a performance out of them when it mattered the most.

[desperado]

Groundhog Day on here… 😂

6 months! 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

If we accept we'd have won more points without the injuries, we also have to accept our rivals would also have won more points without injuries

I still think the biggest thing holding us back is our seeming inability to make tactical changes / react to the opposition's tactical changes during a match

[Tonge moor green jacket]

41 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

If we accept we'd have won more points without the injuries, we also have to accept our rivals would also have won more points without injuries

I still think the biggest thing holding us back is our seeming inability to make tactical changes / react to the opposition's tactical changes during a match

Perfectly reasonable. 

Will be interesting to see how they cope with someone up and at them etc.

Hopefully, the squad now will allow subtle changes as necessary. Doesn't need this complete (unsuccessful) new fangled approach, which Hopefully now has been ditched.

Going off Tomo's comments, they've all had a heart to heart, perhaps after the coaching changes, and voiced their feelings.

Now it's time to deliver.

[Zico]

7 hours ago, Stig said:

Anyway the bit that's more alarming is now he seems to be suggesting we just stick with last season's formation and style. That's fine 75% of the time. It's the other 25% when we play a decent team or high pressure game and the opposition press us when we need a different way of playing.

So instead of working on an effective plan B for this season Evatt spent the summer changing plan A, which we've now scrapped, and don't have a plan B. 

well I've no problem sticking with the formation

or the change in captaincy

the evidence from the weekend is that it's a step in the right direction

but as you say, the real test of whether anything at all has been learnt is "when we play a decent team or high pressure game and the opposition press us when we need a different way of playing."

we will find out soon enough

so you have to hope that between now and then, then figure out what goes wrong when we try to play our way against such teams, because, the last time we checked, we had no idea what goes wrong

i guess that is what they work on in training

wait and see i guess

[desperado]

Good to see the positive reaction since Huddersfield. 
 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

He looks so different with the weight loss now.

 

[Dimron]

I brought a Now pass and sat down and watched the full match for the first time this season (I have been having the commentary on so far).

Good result but I fkkin hate third division football.

Got to get out of this league, the footie overall is dire.

[waffer cup 07]

2 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I brought a Now pass and sat down and watched the full match for the first time this season (I have been having the commentary on so far).

Good result but I fkkin hate third division football.

Got to get out of this league, the footie overall is dire.

And yet i'd much rather watch dire 3rd div football than premiership.

[radcliffe white]

Not his number 1 fan but nice to see him smiling I hope he does turn it around

[gonzo]

24 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I brought a Now pass and sat down and watched the full match for the first time this season (I have been having the commentary on so far).

Good result but I fkkin hate third division football.

Got to get out of this league, the footie overall is dire.

You obviously didn't watch Brentford v West Ham yesterday.

Farmers league tackle.

[barrycowdrill]

21 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Not his number 1 fan but nice to see him smiling I hope he does turn it around

I think he’s been sincerely touched and humbled a little by the support he’s had over the past couple of weeks from the majority of the fanbase. He obviously did some very serious soul searching after the Wembley fiasco and his decision to stay was part the jobs not done and just how much of a wrench it would’ve been to leave. If the powers that be wouldve intimated after Huddersfield they felt it was best to part ways he would’ve done. Albeit reluctantly. 
 

he acknowledges he’s still learning on the job and will make mistakes. I have criticised him more than most for his stubborness over the past couple of seasons when it comes to the formation. He made a comment after that Huddersfield game about not having the players to do anything else and I think that was an indirect dig to say “well you wanted a change so I brought players in to do something else and that’s now what we’ve got” but, we never demanded revolution, we just wanted evolution. And I’m glad to see he’s now recognised that and reverted back to what did bring (relative) success. 

If he can blot out the performances and results that seem to litter our seasons (Carlisle, Wigan Oxford and now Huddersfield to name a few) moving forward and demonstrate that they truly were unacceptable and won’t happen again (or as regular) and just Instill a better tempo in to our play more often then his and our success will continue hand in hand. Because, we aren’t far away at all. 
 

 

[bwfcfan5]

54 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

And yet i'd much rather watch dire 3rd div football than premiership.

It’s dreadful isn’t it?

[Dimron]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

You obviously didn't watch Brentford v West Ham yesterday.

Farmers league tackle.

Mrs Dimron is more into it than me at the moment...

She has reminded me that we saw some pretty poor games even in the White Hot days... I know its the nature of the game

But playing effin Crawley at lunchtime on Sky again makes me feel we've got nowhere ... he HAS to do it this time... 

[Dimron]

2 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said:

And yet i'd much rather watch dire 3rd div football than premiership.

Hats off to you for turning out all the time... i'd like something between where we currently are and the Prem and not playing in subuteo grounds

[desperado]

Yes a stupid 2 goals conceded there 

But post Huddersfield you’ve got to give the players and Evatt a massive amount of credit. I know there’s bigger challenges to come, but you couldn’t have asked for much more than 3 wins 11 goals and 4 conceded. 

I was one of the many critics and doubters after that disastrous start and I’m still not won over. But it’s put a few myths to bed, mainly that these players are improving, they are together and they are playing for their manager.

Let’s keep it going 👏👏

[wakey]

16 minutes ago, desperado said:

Yes a stupid 2 goals conceded there 

But post Huddersfield you’ve got to give the players and Evatt a massive amount of credit. I know there’s bigger challenges to come, but you couldn’t have asked for much more than 3 wins 11 goals and 4 conceded. 

I was one of the many critics and doubters after that disastrous start and I’m still not won over. But it’s put a few myths to bed, mainly that these players are improving, they are together and they are playing for their manager.

Let’s keep it going 👏👏

Aye, I've doubts about the bloke in many respects, but if we keep winning every game I might let him off for now 😁