6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

1 minute ago, Zico said:

seems he has a knee in both camps

Keir Starmer says he "felt sick" watching bodycam footage of Henry Nowak, 18, being handcuffed and arrested before his death

"There are serious questions for the police to answer," the PM says, including how "accusations of racism" informed decision-making

I know, I brought it up earlier 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I know, I brought it up earlier 

seems then he's covering all bases rather than taking sides

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’re Probably best off reading back a few posts. I said they will all use these opportunities to gain more support. Starmer got down on one knee for a career criminal, farage has just done what he’s done. Both bell ends and both using deaths to gain support. 

Quite but it is conflation. One was a movement that gained world wide support after the killing of a black man by the police in the US. 

Farage is using the colour of a mans skin to stoke division directly against the deceased family straight after their statement. That is not the same and is just fucking wrong.

Late catching up with this one.

What a shocking response from those police officers.

Those despicable shit bags - the murderer and brother using their race to avoid arrest and kill an innocent lad.

Truly awful.

The most amazing response is from the family, to be so dignified and calm in not wanting this to escalate.

Why the fuck couldn’t Farage and those flag waving dick heads in Southampton listen to them? 

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Quite but it is conflation. One was a movement that gained world wide support after the killing of a black man by the police in the US. 

Farage is using the colour of a mans skin to stoke division directly against the deceased family straight after their statement. That is not the same and is just fucking wrong.

Both did it to gain support. They knew what they were/are doing. 

16 minutes ago, royal white said:

Both did it to gain support. They knew what they were/are doing. 

Okay.

Let's leave it there.

There's a bit in the footage where a police officer says "he's saying he's been stabbed" and the murderer (or maybe his brother) goes "he's not been stabbed, I don't know why he's saying that" then a police officer (a different one to the one who's attracted the most anger) replies with "I know, but we have to check, don't we?"

The dismissive heartlessness in that "I know" is quite revealing, I think, and is why I'm not really convinced it's simply a problem of the actions of one police officer

They never even considered he might be telling the truth 

seeing the scenes in Southampton. 

People just simmering waiting for a kick off, chasing police down and throwing bins at them, there's a rancid powder keg just waiting to go off. 

Police get things wrong, it's awful and that shouldn't have happened.. but there's no excuse for what's happening. 

8 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There's a bit in the footage where a police officer says "he's saying he's been stabbed" and the murderer (or maybe his brother) goes "he's not been stabbed, I don't know why he's saying that" then a police officer (a different one to the one who's attracted the most anger) replies with "I know, but we have to check, don't we?"

The dismissive heartlessness in that "I know" is quite revealing, I think, and is why I'm not really convinced it's simply a problem of the actions of one police officer

They never even considered he might be telling the truth 

The only thing I can imagine might even possibly explain their actions is if they were expecting to see a lot of blood - but for whatever reason, there wasn't any visible. And even then it's a dereliction of duty not to check surely? 

Hopefully the murderers mam gets the maximum term she can as well. The judge will be under a little bit of pressure come sentencing time. 

Edited June 2Jun 2 by royal white

59 minutes ago, royal white said:

Hopefully the murderers mam gets the maximum term she can as well. The judge will be under a little bit of pressure come sentencing time. 

the other thing that needs to come from this is zero tolerance regards possession of offensive weapons

no one should be able to carry a sword around, even on religous grounds, it's serves no purpose whatsoever

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There's a bit in the footage where a police officer says "he's saying he's been stabbed" and the murderer (or maybe his brother) goes "he's not been stabbed, I don't know why he's saying that" then a police officer (a different one to the one who's attracted the most anger) replies with "I know, but we have to check, don't we?"

The dismissive heartlessness in that "I know" is quite revealing, I think, and is why I'm not really convinced it's simply a problem of the actions of one police officer

They never even considered he might be telling the truth 

In my opinion the Policeman was obviously totally inept, however questions have to be asked about why he behaved as he did and was he influenced because he was too eager to believe the attackers version of events due to the training he was given?

     He had no interest whatsover in ascertaining whether Nowak had been stabbed but far more concerned about a bit of a bruise on the knifeman. 

       And why the need to handcuff someone who was lying on the floor limp and lifeless?

       Whatever the reasons this is quite possibly the spark for a summer of rioting and its another disgrace that this excuse for a Police Officer has been allowed to retire and keep his pension.

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

It was the actions of one copper though. Why take your anger out at the whole of the police force? 

ACAB

5 hours ago, Zico said:

the other thing that needs to come from this is zero tolerance regards possession of offensive weapons

no one should be able to carry a sword around, even on religous grounds, it's serves no purpose whatsoever

What About 

JOCKS 

they have Knifes in there socks 

im Surprised there is not more Stabbings at Weddings up there 

as foke always kick off at Weddings Pissed up

7 hours ago, desperado said:

 

Why the fuck couldn’t Farage and those flag waving dick heads in Southampton listen to them? 

Because they’re despicable human beings - who will jump on anything to further their cause.

 They don’t care about Nowak and his family, if they did they wouldn’t have done this.

Sadly one of them will be our next PM. We can look forward to more of this shite 

 Whatabout Starmer & George Floyd 

That’s some next level Whataboutery, even by the site master’s standards.

Nearly as daft as Tommy saying white people have become second class citizens last night. You can’t help but worry about where this country is heading when folk below his shite.

 I’ve no issue with folk protesting for justice on this one. Those police need to face charges, but Christ this has gone way past that.

Awful for the family.

Foke 😁

8 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There's a bit in the footage where a police officer says "he's saying he's been stabbed" and the murderer (or maybe his brother) goes "he's not been stabbed, I don't know why he's saying that" then a police officer (a different one to the one who's attracted the most anger) replies with "I know, but we have to check, don't we?"

The dismissive heartlessness in that "I know" is quite revealing, I think, and is why I'm not really convinced it's simply a problem of the actions of one police officer

They never even considered he might be telling the truth 

That even after the guy who was helping first explained clearly he kept trying to make him sit up but he couldn't and kept sliding down the wall.

Why would a lad who was running off from attacking someone be unable to even sit against a wall.

The copper at the end even said his pupils weren't reacting.

The way the guy just dragged him out from the front of car despite the member of the public clearly saying he was injured and couldn't sit up.

They even remarked on the cuts on his face and one said he'd been beat up.

It's manslaughter all day long. They let him die.

Just read this on the BBC site. The last bit is where people get the ‘two tier policing’ accusations from. 

Police reviewing anti-racism guidance.

A national unit of senior police chiefs says it will review anti-racism guidance that has been at the centre of criticism over the actions of officers who arrested murder victim Henry Nowak as he was dying.

The National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) has announced it will look into policies in the Race Action Plan, with NPCC chairman Gavin Stephens saying it is "listening to legitimate concerns about how some of these commitments are worded or phrased".

"Where needed we can and will make changes, but this should not detract from the intent, which is to improve the quality of policing," he says.

The guidance, which was issued last year, suggested officers should treat ethnic minorities differently in order to ensure what it calls "equality of outcomes".

 

17 minutes ago, gonzo said:

That even after the guy who was helping first explained clearly he kept trying to make him sit up but he couldn't and kept sliding down the wall.

Why would a lad who was running off from attacking someone be unable to even sit against a wall.

The copper at the end even said his pupils weren't reacting.

The way the guy just dragged him out from the front of car despite the member of the public clearly saying he was injured and couldn't sit up.

They even remarked on the cuts on his face and one said he'd been beat up.

It's manslaughter all day long. They let him die.

Very tricky this.

Just had a gander, and on the basis of the pathologists report that his wounds were unsurvivable, I don't see how all the conditions would be met.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/prosecution-guidance/gross-negligence-manslaughter

Look at point c.

Maybe some lesser charge.

Their careers will be over come what may. 

10 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Only if twats like Farrage on Robinson ramp up the us vs them narative. The big issue in this case is the copper being a dumb fucker nothing to do with us v them until the grifters created a stink

Disagree. The issue is that they are trained (brainwashed) to positively discriminate towards a particular skin colour.

Two tier policing.

10 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

what in the fuck is this going to achieve

The opposite of what he probably wants.

Stupid.

 

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

Just read this on the BBC site. The last bit is where people get the ‘two tier policing’ accusations from. 

Police reviewing anti-racism guidance.

A national unit of senior police chiefs says it will review anti-racism guidance that has been at the centre of criticism over the actions of officers who arrested murder victim Henry Nowak as he was dying.

The National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) has announced it will look into policies in the Race Action Plan, with NPCC chairman Gavin Stephens saying it is "listening to legitimate concerns about how some of these commitments are worded or phrased".

"Where needed we can and will make changes, but this should not detract from the intent, which is to improve the quality of policing," he says.

The guidance, which was issued last year, suggested officers should treat ethnic minorities differently in order to ensure what it calls "equality of outcomes".

 

There are similar examples throughout public bodies.

RAF email/edict saying they should steer away from white applicants.

10 hours ago, Zico said:

aye, unfortunately one of those spaccas might be our next PM 

Give over. Your mammary manipulating moron hasn't a fucking chance.

9 hours ago, Zico said:

seems he has a knee in both camps

Keir Starmer says he "felt sick" watching bodycam footage of Henry Nowak, 18, being handcuffed and arrested before his death

"There are serious questions for the police to answer," the PM says, including how "accusations of racism" informed decision-making

He hasn't a clue which side he is on - other than his own.