Twitter

[Alf Hartigan]

Yes that’s why I changed o to 0

[Spider]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

That’s something I’ve always pondered. If someone searches for porn, they’ll probably get porn on their feeds. Seems strange that people seem to get loads of ‘right wing’ stuff. 
What are they looking at or searching for?

 

If - let’s say at random - the owner of Twitter wanted the “for you” feeds to be mainly right wing, I reckon that could happen.

Of course, I’m not nearly cynical enough to suggest that such a thing may be happening.

 

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

If - let’s say at random - the owner of Twitter wanted the “for you” feeds to be mainly right wing, I reckon that could happen.

Of course, I’m not nearly cynical enough to suggest that such a thing may be happening.

 

Of course, you could always ignore the ‘ for you’ feed like I do. Just like I didn’t read what was on the side of a bus. It was you who mentioned numb. 👍

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Of course, you could always ignore the ‘ for you’ feed like I do. Just like I didn’t read what was on the side of a bus. It was you who mentioned numb. 👍

Rather than edit.

If you don’t like the Mail- Don't read it.

If you don’t like the Mirror-don’t read it. 
Read whatever you want and let others read whatever they want. 
Life is really simple. 

[Spider]

34 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Of course, you could always ignore the ‘ for you’ feed like I do. Just like I didn’t read what was on the side of a bus. It was you who mentioned numb. 👍

Following - that’s people you’ve chosen to follow so isn’t part of the algorithm.

You asked why searching for porn would bring it up on feeds - that’s what the “for you” feed supposedly does, shows you things it “thinks” you may want to see. Now supposedly this is based on your search history and other things you look at repeatedly. I merely suggested that it isn’t and is potentially influenced by the owner of the platform instead.

I answered your question.

[BobyBrno]

16 minutes ago, Spider said:

Following - that’s people you’ve chosen to follow so isn’t part of the algorithm.

You asked why searching for porn would bring it up on feeds - that’s what the “for you” feed supposedly does, shows you things it “thinks” you may want to see. Now supposedly this is based on your search history and other things you look at repeatedly. I merely suggested that it isn’t and is potentially influenced by the owner of the platform instead.

I answered your question.

Well yeh. We all know how it works. If you don’t want to see stuff, don’t look.

Before the internet, porn magazines (soft porn) used to be on the top shelf in the newsagent.  It was there for people who wanted to see and buy it. 
Everyone knew that.

Those who didn’t, didn’t. It really isn’t difficult. Have you ever heard of the term ‘personal responsibility’? 
It’s like blaming the newsagent for selling naughty magazines. 
 

[Not in Crawley]

21 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Well yeh. We all know how it works. If you don’t want to see stuff, don’t look.

Before the internet, porn magazines (soft porn) used to be on the top shelf in the newsagent.  It was there for people who wanted to see and buy it. 
Everyone knew that.

Those who didn’t, didn’t. It really isn’t difficult. Have you ever heard of the term ‘personal responsibility’? 
It’s like blaming the newsagent for selling naughty magazines. 
 

You don't really have a grasp on how algorithms for digital media work.

That's fine, not many people do.

[mickbrown]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

That’s something I’ve always pondered. If someone searches for porn, they’ll probably get porn on their feeds. Seems strange that people seem to get loads of ‘right wing’ stuff. 
What are they looking at or searching for?

 

It’s well known the algorithms are designed to drive engagement. They definitely do that by seeding argument and division. 
 

When I used it the folk I followed couldn’t be more different than the absolute cunts served up in the ‘for you’ tab. That’s by design. And another reason I fucked it off. 

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

I’ve raised this point before only to be called a simpleton by cheese 🧀 😀

The ultimate fucking irony.

[Ani]

25 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

It’s well known the algorithms are designed to drive engagement. They definitely do that by seeding argument and division. 
 

When I used it the folk I followed couldn’t be more different than the absolute cunts served up in the ‘for you’ tab. That’s by design. And another reason I fucked it off. 

At first I found the for you bit interesting as it presented a different than I got on my following and there could a decent debate. Now it is the same enraged people everyone pushing the latest message. 
 

I look at the for you tab very rarely now

[London Wanderer]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

You don't really have a grasp on how algorithms for digital media work.

That's fine, not many people do.

Aye

 heard criticisms of algorithms targeting teenage boys in recent years, with some fairly dark content.

 The ‘don’t like it, don’t look’ argument is just naive 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdqzxypdzo.amp

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Zico]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

 heard criticisms of algorithms targeting teenage boys in recent years, with some fairly dark content.

 The ‘don’t like it, don’t look’ argument is just naive 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdqzxypdzo.amp

 

I think this is one area where Twitter has it right 

For You, and Following 

Whereas if I go on FB and Instagram I'm constantly being shown suggested content

[BobyBrno]

9 hours ago, mickbrown said:

It’s well known the algorithms are designed to drive engagement. They definitely do that by seeding argument and division. 
 

When I used it the folk I followed couldn’t be more different than the absolute cunts served up in the ‘for you’ tab. That’s by design. And another reason I fucked it off. 

I guess you’re saying the same as me in a way. I control who I follow. I don’t use the for you tab and rarely look at the trends. All that is in my control. You chose to control it by not using it which is fair enough. I’m sure the odd advert I get is controlled by algorithms but there is nothing offensive or political in them. 

[BobyBrno]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

 heard criticisms of algorithms targeting teenage boys in recent years, with some fairly dark content.

 The ‘don’t like it, don’t look’ argument is just naive 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdqzxypdzo.amp

 

That’s a much wider issue though. I thought we were talking about the adults on here and their experience with X?

Just for the record, I often read my X feed on the bus, train, cafe or pub. I never open WW though in case someone is behind me. Some real dodgy photos on here.😉

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

That’s a much wider issue though. I thought we were talking about the adults on here and their experience with X?

Just for the record, I often read my X feed on the bus, train, cafe or pub. I never open WW though in case someone is behind me. Some real dodgy photos on here.😉

Your point initially was about algorithms.

I don’t often look at the “for you” tab either, but when I do it’s a cesspit. And it categorically isn’t driven by my interests.

my following tab is a calmer place and balanced.

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, Spider said:

Your point initially was about algorithms.

I don’t often look at the “for you” tab either, but when I do it’s a cesspit. And it categorically isn’t driven by my interests.

my following tab is a calmer place and balanced.

I don’t think it was. It has always been about personal control. I am aware of algorithms. I mentioned algorithms because there seems to be some conflict in others opinions. Some say they are getting stuff they don’t want some saying it’s because of search algorithms etc. I asked what were they searching for. The only time I see Trump, Robinson or Fox, is on here. 
Your initial point was that X was full of cranks. X is the world. Just like real life, you can either seek them out or avoid them.

[BobyBrno]

I’ve just been on the ‘for you feed’ and saw this. It’s why I don’t go on it 😊

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

As it happens, there's a 40% off Premium offer this weekend, which offers a larger "Reply Boost" for the algorythmically minded

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

You don't really have a grasp on how algorithms for digital media work.

That's fine, not many people do.

Exactly how they work, I would imagine you're right, few understand it.

Eventually though, it does come down to choice.

The choice not to bother in the first place even.

Sometimes think Elon should just pack it all into one of his big fuck off rockets and crash it on Mars. 

For younger folk though, without so much life experience, and perhaps being more vulnerable, I think the risk of harm is evident. 

Quite like the Australian approach, though not sure how it is enforceable. 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

For younger folk though, without so much life experience, and perhaps being more vulnerable, I think the risk of harm is evident. 

A lot of adults have been radicalised by social media

Especially Facebook

[Spider]

22 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

A lot of adults have been radicalised by social media

Especially Facebook

U ok hun?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

U ok hun?

I'll inbox you

[kent_white]

12 hours ago, mickbrown said:

It’s well known the algorithms are designed to drive engagement. They definitely do that by seeding argument and division. 
 

When I used it the folk I followed couldn’t be more different than the absolute cunts served up in the ‘for you’ tab. That’s by design. And another reason I fucked it off. 

Case in point. On Facebook - I started arguing with some flat earthers.

The algorithm now continually bombards me with 

* Flat earth pages

* We didn't land on the moon pages

* Vaccines are part of an Illuminati mind control programme pages

* The pyramids were built by aliens pages

* Chemtrails pages

* There is no Nandos at Middlebrook pages

So basically it has figured out what it is that pisses me off and then bombards me with it so that I will interact - which strengthens the algorithm even further. Much of my time on Facebook was devoted to constantly pressing the 'not interested' button to try and 'clean up' the algorithm. 

Basically I've realised this is pointless which is why I've largely sacked off social media altogether these days. 

Similarly - if your politics is to the left, it bombards you with things which will make you want to argue and engage. Not sure whether this happens in reverse or not? 

What an utterly shite and depressing system that is though! 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

A lot of adults have been radicalised by social media

Especially Facebook

No doubt.

Even more reason to decide not to bother in the first place. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Case in point. On Facebook - I started arguing with some flat earthers.

The algorithm now continually bombards me with 

* Flat earth pages

* We didn't land on the moon pages

* Vaccines are part of an Illuminati mind control programme pages

* The pyramids were built by aliens pages

* Chemtrails pages

* There is no Nandos at Middlebrook pages

So basically it has figured out what it is that pisses me off and then bombards me with it so that I will interact - which strengthens the algorithm even further. Much of my time on Facebook was devoted to constantly pressing the 'not interested' button to try and 'clean up' the algorithm. 

Basically I've realised this is pointless which is why I've largely sacked off social media altogether these days. 

Similarly - if your politics is to the left, it bombards you with things which will make you want to argue and engage. Not sure whether this happens in reverse or not? 

What an utterly shite and depressing system that is though! 

Good man. 

Ever tried feeshin?