Moderators Zico Posted November 13, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2022 Seems to me we've got the best defensive record in the league and play pretty much the same defence every game We're pretty shite going forward and don't score as much as we need to, and we play a different midfield and attack every game Anyway, it's just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: While we all want to go up, we'd do well to remember we are one of a number of clubs who belong at a higher level historically. A few will have spent more than us too. We'd get relegated if we went up with this team. We are simply not ready yet. Could we get up? Absolutely. No good if we're getting pumped though Same was true when we came up. We strengthened and went again. If or when we get out of this league, we'd improve the squad again. As it happens I reckon we do have decent squad now, and for me, at the moment, it's not delivering as well as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Same was true when we came up. We strengthened and went again. If or when we get out of this league, we'd improve the squad again. As it happens I reckon we do have decent squad now, and for me, at the moment, it's not delivering as well as it should. I agree with that, we know what they can do and capable of, they’re just not clicking, it’s just a blip in our season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 That team had more goals in the strikers than we have in the entire team. Goals can dig you out the shit, we simply don't score enough - hopefully that's just for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: While I do agree, I honestly thought last January's window would have us ready this season. I've said for a while, if we can ship about 5 or 6 out in January but use their wages to sign 2 or 3 quality championship class players, we might well have enough to be ready. Evatt is trying too hard to keep his squad happy enough until January. We can't carry on with this chopping and changing Offloading could be the problem take kachunga would love to see him go however who will take him? One of highest earners his contract will have to run Sadlier is a decent player he won’t go short of takers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Zico said: Seems to me we've got the best defensive record in the league and play pretty much the same defence every game We're pretty shite going forward and don't score as much as we need to, and we play a different midfield and attack every game Anyway, it's just a thought Well howdy there internet people, it's Zico again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Sadlier is a decent player he won’t go short of takers Hasn’t been given a proper go, IMO. looks a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Hasn’t been given a proper go, IMO. looks a player. He hasn’t which is a shame Unless IE changes it he will want first team football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Hasn’t been given a proper go, IMO. looks a player. Personally I don’t see it with Sadlier. I understand he hasn’t had a consistent run, but he’s played in about half a dozen different positions now and the only time he looked any good was against Salford. I don’t think he even knows what his best position is, never mind Evatt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted November 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Personally I don’t see it with Sadlier. I understand he hasn’t had a consistent run, but he’s played in about half a dozen different positions now and the only time he looked any good was against Salford. I don’t think he even knows what his best position is, never mind Evatt. Maybe it's because he keeps getting played in different positions?.... Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Maybe it's because he keeps getting played in different positions?.... Just a thought. Quite possibly, but he seemed to have a similar issue at his previous clubs, and he doesn’t really seem to have many stand out attributes that would direct him to a particular position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Personally I don’t see it with Sadlier. I understand he hasn’t had a consistent run, but he’s played in about half a dozen different positions now and the only time he looked any good was against Salford. I don’t think he even knows what his best position is, never mind Evatt. Not sure how you can read his mind! Same could be said of Dapo - for all we know they know exactly which is their best position, but if the manager is playing a wingback system and there's no position for you it doesn't make any difference. I think its fair to say if they were filling in their CV, Sadlier and Dapo wouldn't put their position down as wingback. Re only looking good in 1 or 2 games, that can be said about every single attacking player except Bradley and JDB, the difference is Sadlier is the only player in the squad yet to start a league game, even less than Isgrove and Sheehan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not sure how you can read his mind! Same could be said of Dapo - for all we know they know exactly which is their best position, but if the manager is playing a wingback system and there's no position for you it doesn't make any difference. I think its fair to say if they were filling in their CV, Sadlier and Dapo wouldn't put their position down as wingback. Re only looking good in 1 or 2 games, that can be said about every single attacking player except Bradley and JDB, the difference is Sadlier is the only player in the squad yet to start a league game, even less than Isgrove and Sheehan. As above, he’s played all over the place for previous clubs and never made a position his own, nor does he have any real stand out attributes that would nudge him in any particular direction. Tbf we knew that from day one when he was described as a generic ‘forward’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Quite possibly, but he seemed to have a similar issue at his previous clubs, and he doesn’t really seem to have many stand out attributes that would direct him to a particular position. I do get that, he's not obviously a central midfielder or obviously a winger, fair point. But I'd say the same is true of Kachunga and Dapo, difficult to nail down where they should play. Kacha is definitely not a striker or centre forward but gets played up front most games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On reflection, quite solid. 2 great saves from traff. why no sub goalie when you can name 7? Stupid and / or ignorant. Missed 2 guilt edged chances, jones and Charles. Too many long balls and so little created by midfield for attackers to run on to. (And I have been crying out for Morley) good teams win that game. just frustrating. if you have seen the Charles stats (us and Ireland) just not good enough. sadlier plays a fraction of the time and nearly the same. for me dapo will leave in jan and we will have ballsed up big time. last 10 games we have been shite and still 7th ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 hours ago, marple whites said: On reflection, quite solid. 2 great saves from traff. why no sub goalie when you can name 7? Stupid and / or ignorant. Missed 2 guilt edged chances, jones and Charles. Too many long balls and so little created by midfield for attackers to run on to. (And I have been crying out for Morley) good teams win that game. just frustrating. if you have seen the Charles stats (us and Ireland) just not good enough. sadlier plays a fraction of the time and nearly the same. for me dapo will leave in jan and we will have ballsed up big time. last 10 games we have been shite and still 7th ! Evatt has explained this, the reason is it is very rare keepers get injured and he’d rather have extra outfield player who can effect the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Evatt has explained this, the reason is it is very rare keepers get injured and he’d rather have extra outfield player who can effect the game. And when is he planning on finding one of those? 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: And when is he planning on finding one of those? 😊 Was going to say that’s not exactly going to plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Evatt has explained this, the reason is it is very rare keepers get injured and he’d rather have extra outfield player who can effect the game. Absolutely ridiculous fair enough if we had 3 subs like but it’s just pure stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big E said: Absolutely ridiculous fair enough if we had 3 subs like but it’s just pure stupidity Sadlier, Sheehan & lee all unused Saturday surely one of them could effect the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 The only thing left to try is Dapo upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) everyone happy to trust evatt to bring players in during the jan window? dont forget all these we want to offload are his signings. if hes going to continue with this system, he needs players that fit it Edited November 14, 2022 by L/H White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I was so frustrated with Morley on Saturday. Like others, I've been banging a drum for him to start and he just didn't perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Traf said: I was so frustrated with Morley on Saturday. Like others, I've been banging a drum for him to start and he just didn't perform. But this is what happens Bad game then dropped next cant work like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: But this is what happens Bad game then dropped next cant work like that Agreed. Look at Thomason - played a few games in a row and settled into it as confidence grew. But he was benched against Accrington, played against Barnsley, dropped again at the weekend. It’s like the Hokey Kokey. As for Dempsey, Sheehan, Morley, Dapo, Lee, Sadlier etc - zero chance to get a decent run of games to be able to get into a rhythm. How do you get to know how to play effectively with your teammates if you have different teammates each week? Training drills at Euxton isn’t the same as 90 mins in a league game. Edited November 14, 2022 by Jol_BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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