If I'm honest pal I'm on a Bolton forum and a new member and a evertonian, so I did not want to start taking one person to task. It's just that what I'm trying to understand people are still saying scousers are at in some part to blame. I'm asking how in people's opinion do people think LFC fans contribute to Hillsbrough? The only respons seems to be drink. This can't be proved and is not fact. What is fact is what came to light yesterday. People go on about heysel but that is a different matter. We are debating Hillsbrough and what happened there. As for heysel as a evertonian I feel agrived more than the average football fan over that, as in my opinion we had just won the cup winners cup and I believe had the team to challenge for the european cup but we never got the chance, we suffered massively because of heysel and the ban, So this is not me saying LFC fans are always innocent. They are not. However where Hillsbrough is concerned they where made to be scapegoats and the mud threw at them has stuck. They where innocent and in no way shape of form did LFC fans contribute to Hillsbrough.