Apologies in advance to anyone who reads this and sees it as a Danny Dyeresque romp through the murky depths of 1980?s football hooliganism, this is how it was, this is what happened and this, marrers is why I detest Bolton Wanderers Football Club and it?s supporters with such a vengance! It takes two to tango sure, but it was the way that they danced that put them in a different league to any other fans, hoolies or otherwise that I?ve come across whilst watching Latics all these years.
It all started at the end of the 1981/82 season when they came to play in John Browns testimonial, after the match I found meself absent mindedly walking down First Avenue beside the little group of Bolton grufters who had spent the game stood in the corner near the supporters club, the little mob of Wiganers who had followed them out and across the car park gave the ?Come On? , I realised me mistake and was trying to scurry away to the other side of the street, too late
A rather portly chap came alongside me and cracked me on the back of the head, ?fcuk off yer little Wigan pussy? he said, I looked at him in a bemused ?What the hell was that for?? fashion and he did it again! ?fcuk this for a game o? soldiers? says I and swung a kick that missed it?s target miserably then legged it to a safe distance to watch these two little groups having pops at each other all the way up to Wallgate Station.It?d be over 18 months until our paths crossed again on Boxing Day 1983 and we all got off the free bus in our new Tachini and Fila Christmas presents, me heart skipped a beat as we walked across the cobbled car park towards the Tech and Park Road and a group of about 20 Bolton men came round the Gas Showrooms corner, the 6 of us had visions of spending Boxing Day inside a gas cooker, a couple of ?em came towards us ready for action, ?Leave ?em, they?re only kids..?, the two rejoined their mates without incident, we went our way, they went theirs, it was the last time I?d ever hear that phrase come from the lips of a Bolton Wanderers fan!
We lost one nil, there was a missed penalty, they packed out the Shevvy End and had plenty in the Wigan end during one of our rare forays into over 10,000sville for a League game, and some of them had walked it in fancy dress, who came a cropper on their way back as they trudged through Scholes and past the Balc I believe!
Anyway, it was an incident after the game that always sticks in me mind about this one, just as the game had finished a load of Bolton rushed through the open gates near the supporters club. We were at the top of the steps and who do yer reckon was at the front of these men at the bottom?, aye, uglier than a monkeys armpit in all his glory, 18 months on and still swiping out at anyone he didn?t recognize.There was a big set to on the steps and during the panic and scrapping and confusion a barrier went over on the terrace and it was all a bit chaotic but God, how I wanted to have a swing at that bastard!
I was upset about the result cos they?d come, won and took the piss and I was very upset about a big black mark on me new trainers as someone had stood on me foot during the melee at the end. It was a hell of a turn out for the away fixture, our first at Burnden Park, won 1-0 with a goal from a mon who got called things that in this politically correct day and age would have folk cringing!
?Is he t?first blackie we?ve ever had??
?Aye, I reckon so, but he?s only quarter past int he??
Weird as it sounds, even though there was 4,000 less on at Burnden than Springfield it seemed more, it was a Wigan following full of bravado before the game with everyone together in the pubs but the sign of things was come became evident as groups started splintering off, our lot got jumped on pretty badly coming out of the Sweet Green Tavern, we went onto a pub on Manchester Road and got a warm reception which spilled out into the traffic and the sort of carnival atmosphere with everyone together on the train turned into one where everyone was looking out for their own little groups, but that?s football, how it was, if you went away you took it as part and parcel of the crack and it was stomach churningly exciting it has to be said!
What we weren?t prepared for was what came after the match, we won, we were happy, they?d lost and they weren?t! The Bobbies started to escort us up Manchester Road, the home hordes were on the other side of the road, then, performing a trick that David Copperfield would surely be proud of, the coppers just disappeared , telling? yer, they were there one minute then they?d gone the next! Then just as silently the road disappeared as well as Bolton just came across it and joined us, as they used to say on The Banana Splits, ?Uh Oh,?Jungo?!?
They were in us, behind us, in front of us, kicking at our heels, knocking us into their mates in front and generally being a set of menacing bastards RUN WIGAN, FUCKIN? RUN! One of the twats shouted, how the hell could we? Where did you leg it to? So the kick offs started, little skirmishes that turned into big ones and lasted all the way up to the turn off for the station, blokes as old as me Dad wanting to kick me head in, amongst their young lads were fellas in their 40?s slapping and kicking boys barely out of school, yeah sure I felt belting in me Benetton top, me tight jeans with a flare at the bottom and trainers but instead of Benetton it could have read ?Punch Me!? with an advert on me arse saying ?Kick This!? which they did at regular intervals! The David Copperfield phenomenon struck again as we turned left up to go to the station, we had one last jousting session and then the Bobbies had suddenly appeared again!All smiles as we got up there,
?Enjoy your trip lads?? said one,
?Where the fcuk were you lot?? one lad said to him,
?What the fcuk did yer come here for then yer soft red ginger??, he had a point like but the folk who?d come on the train just to watch the match didn?t deserve to get the same sort of shit that we did, and a lot of what you?d class as innocents got thumped that day, the experience certainly affected some, as the next seasons turn out proved!
84/85 saw another Boxing Day derby at Springy, another 1-0 win for Latics but the crowd was over 1,200 down on the previous, they brought the same, beating them was beginning to feel not just better but fist and teeth clenchingly better, there was a big, big scrap on the crossroads at the Pagey, someone threw a big firecracker thing into them, it went off, tremendous BANG!
?That could?ve hit anyone!?
?Who fuckin? cares??
The bloke who answered must?ve had a stroll up Manchester Road the previous April
And on to our next April rendezvous at Burnden Park, Everyone was going but nobody came!, well, that?s a bit of a fib cos the following in the ground was excellent, it?s just that not many fancied getting there (and back) on the train! There were 14 young bucks at Wallgate at 12 o'clock, by 1pm the number had risen to 19! No mobile phones of course in them days, whoever didn?t turn up just didn?t, and can you blame anyone for being sensible when we were doing something rather foolish? Of course, football doesn?t work like that does it?, so curses were cast in the direction of those who had sense! One rather tall chap took matters in hand in the way that only he could (and still can!) and said ?We?ll go late?, so everyone camped in the Raven for a few drinks before getting a train at about 2.30, arriving at the station at about 10 to 3 the Bobbies were all waiting for us on the platform, along with two of ours who?d made it a bit earlier and met a few of the locals, ?Is this it?? said a plod as we took a right out of the station, with the bobbies all round us, by the time we were taking our next right turn down Manny Road the conjurers had been at it again, the cops being mysteriously replaced by local hoodlums who?d awaited our arrival, how the hell did they keep doing do that? At which point one of them said, ?Fuckin Ell, Is this it then?? !!The locals shepherded us down to the ground, I think everyone had at least one at the side of him with a nice number of them around us for good measure, no punching, no kicking just a weird silence and a sinister farewell as we turned for the ground, ?See yer all later boys! A mutual sharp intake of breath as we went in, again, the crowd was less than at Springy by over 2,500 this time and we lost, 1-0, well it had to be didn?t it?
It was the usual pantomime after the game, us, the good guys, against the panto villains, first in Police uniforms who?d taunt as they took us onto the main road about how ?their lads? were gonna eat us to be replaced by folk in a different kind of uniform made up of various foreign sportswear manufacturers who would fully take advantage of the numbers and have us put in our place, but we were there for Wigan Athletic and we didn?t give a fcuk, ?.oh yes we did, ?..oh no we didn?t,? sorry!!!
By the time we got back to the station and the shift changover I had a footprint on the back of my jacket and to be honest when you looked at how many folk had made the trip I was quite relieved that that was all I had! And so to 1985/86, a four game Bolton season, yummy yummy! It was actually New Years Day 1986 before our paths crossed and what a way to see in the New Year! A break from the 1-0?s saw us win 2-1 at Burnden, in front of a higher than Burnden average 9,000, apart from at Wembley in the Freight Rover I hadn?t celebrated a final whistle with such vigour and joy, just punching the air shouting ?Get in yer bassstrurds!? With it being New Years Day I?d gone on me todd on the coach, gone in the seats and scrawled me name in the bogs then got a transfer onto the terrace, then I saw a lad who I?d worked with who?d come with his Dad in the car, anyroad, the Hogmanay Hangover was kicking in so I asked if I could cadge a lift back to Wigan with ?em, not fancying the coach trip sat next to someone who knew bloody everything about everything, I know it was only a short journey, but believe me the trip in was like being sat next to Bamber Gascoigne on speed! Sorted! A lift back, so after the game we moseyed back to where the car was parked just past the Dog Track, and I?m smiling a little bit too much, in fact I?m virtually skipping and all but singing in the street at the result and the fact that for the first time we?d played Bolton I?d come out unscathed, as we got to the car a mon says to me,
?Good result eh??,
?ragging Beltin!? says I, then THWACK!, the red ginger gave me one right on the ear , a proper old burner/stinger then ran off!
Happy New Fuckin? Year!! OK, so it wasn?t big or clever but it happened!
from a Wigan fan
Apologies in advance to anyone who reads this and sees it as a Danny Dyeresque romp through the murky depths of 1980?s football hooliganism, this is how it was, this is what happened and this, marrers is why I detest Bolton Wanderers Football Club and it?s supporters with such a vengance! It takes two to tango sure, but it was the way that they danced that put them in a different league to any other fans, hoolies or otherwise that I?ve come across whilst watching Latics all these years.
It all started at the end of the 1981/82 season when they came to play in John Browns testimonial, after the match I found meself absent mindedly walking down First Avenue beside the little group of Bolton grufters who had spent the game stood in the corner near the supporters club, the little mob of Wiganers who had followed them out and across the car park gave the ?Come On? , I realised me mistake and was trying to scurry away to the other side of the street, too late
A rather portly chap came alongside me and cracked me on the back of the head, ?fcuk off yer little Wigan pussy? he said, I looked at him in a bemused ?What the hell was that for?? fashion and he did it again! ?fcuk this for a game o? soldiers? says I and swung a kick that missed it?s target miserably then legged it to a safe distance to watch these two little groups having pops at each other all the way up to Wallgate Station.It?d be over 18 months until our paths crossed again on Boxing Day 1983 and we all got off the free bus in our new Tachini and Fila Christmas presents, me heart skipped a beat as we walked across the cobbled car park towards the Tech and Park Road and a group of about 20 Bolton men came round the Gas Showrooms corner, the 6 of us had visions of spending Boxing Day inside a gas cooker, a couple of ?em came towards us ready for action, ?Leave ?em, they?re only kids..?, the two rejoined their mates without incident, we went our way, they went theirs, it was the last time I?d ever hear that phrase come from the lips of a Bolton Wanderers fan!
We lost one nil, there was a missed penalty, they packed out the Shevvy End and had plenty in the Wigan end during one of our rare forays into over 10,000sville for a League game, and some of them had walked it in fancy dress, who came a cropper on their way back as they trudged through Scholes and past the Balc I believe!
Anyway, it was an incident after the game that always sticks in me mind about this one, just as the game had finished a load of Bolton rushed through the open gates near the supporters club. We were at the top of the steps and who do yer reckon was at the front of these men at the bottom?, aye, uglier than a monkeys armpit in all his glory, 18 months on and still swiping out at anyone he didn?t recognize.There was a big set to on the steps and during the panic and scrapping and confusion a barrier went over on the terrace and it was all a bit chaotic but God, how I wanted to have a swing at that bastard!
I was upset about the result cos they?d come, won and took the piss and I was very upset about a big black mark on me new trainers as someone had stood on me foot during the melee at the end. It was a hell of a turn out for the away fixture, our first at Burnden Park, won 1-0 with a goal from a mon who got called things that in this politically correct day and age would have folk cringing!
?Is he t?first blackie we?ve ever had??
?Aye, I reckon so, but he?s only quarter past int he??
Weird as it sounds, even though there was 4,000 less on at Burnden than Springfield it seemed more, it was a Wigan following full of bravado before the game with everyone together in the pubs but the sign of things was come became evident as groups started splintering off, our lot got jumped on pretty badly coming out of the Sweet Green Tavern, we went onto a pub on Manchester Road and got a warm reception which spilled out into the traffic and the sort of carnival atmosphere with everyone together on the train turned into one where everyone was looking out for their own little groups, but that?s football, how it was, if you went away you took it as part and parcel of the crack and it was stomach churningly exciting it has to be said!
What we weren?t prepared for was what came after the match, we won, we were happy, they?d lost and they weren?t! The Bobbies started to escort us up Manchester Road, the home hordes were on the other side of the road, then, performing a trick that David Copperfield would surely be proud of, the coppers just disappeared , telling? yer, they were there one minute then they?d gone the next! Then just as silently the road disappeared as well as Bolton just came across it and joined us, as they used to say on The Banana Splits, ?Uh Oh,?Jungo?!?
They were in us, behind us, in front of us, kicking at our heels, knocking us into their mates in front and generally being a set of menacing bastards RUN WIGAN, FUCKIN? RUN! One of the twats shouted, how the hell could we? Where did you leg it to? So the kick offs started, little skirmishes that turned into big ones and lasted all the way up to the turn off for the station, blokes as old as me Dad wanting to kick me head in, amongst their young lads were fellas in their 40?s slapping and kicking boys barely out of school, yeah sure I felt belting in me Benetton top, me tight jeans with a flare at the bottom and trainers but instead of Benetton it could have read ?Punch Me!? with an advert on me arse saying ?Kick This!? which they did at regular intervals! The David Copperfield phenomenon struck again as we turned left up to go to the station, we had one last jousting session and then the Bobbies had suddenly appeared again!All smiles as we got up there,
?Enjoy your trip lads?? said one,
?Where the fcuk were you lot?? one lad said to him,
?What the fcuk did yer come here for then yer soft red ginger??, he had a point like but the folk who?d come on the train just to watch the match didn?t deserve to get the same sort of shit that we did, and a lot of what you?d class as innocents got thumped that day, the experience certainly affected some, as the next seasons turn out proved!
84/85 saw another Boxing Day derby at Springy, another 1-0 win for Latics but the crowd was over 1,200 down on the previous, they brought the same, beating them was beginning to feel not just better but fist and teeth clenchingly better, there was a big, big scrap on the crossroads at the Pagey, someone threw a big firecracker thing into them, it went off, tremendous BANG!
?That could?ve hit anyone!?
?Who fuckin? cares??
The bloke who answered must?ve had a stroll up Manchester Road the previous April
And on to our next April rendezvous at Burnden Park, Everyone was going but nobody came!, well, that?s a bit of a fib cos the following in the ground was excellent, it?s just that not many fancied getting there (and back) on the train! There were 14 young bucks at Wallgate at 12 o'clock, by 1pm the number had risen to 19! No mobile phones of course in them days, whoever didn?t turn up just didn?t, and can you blame anyone for being sensible when we were doing something rather foolish? Of course, football doesn?t work like that does it?, so curses were cast in the direction of those who had sense! One rather tall chap took matters in hand in the way that only he could (and still can!) and said ?We?ll go late?, so everyone camped in the Raven for a few drinks before getting a train at about 2.30, arriving at the station at about 10 to 3 the Bobbies were all waiting for us on the platform, along with two of ours who?d made it a bit earlier and met a few of the locals, ?Is this it?? said a plod as we took a right out of the station, with the bobbies all round us, by the time we were taking our next right turn down Manny Road the conjurers had been at it again, the cops being mysteriously replaced by local hoodlums who?d awaited our arrival, how the hell did they keep doing do that? At which point one of them said, ?Fuckin Ell, Is this it then?? !!The locals shepherded us down to the ground, I think everyone had at least one at the side of him with a nice number of them around us for good measure, no punching, no kicking just a weird silence and a sinister farewell as we turned for the ground, ?See yer all later boys! A mutual sharp intake of breath as we went in, again, the crowd was less than at Springy by over 2,500 this time and we lost, 1-0, well it had to be didn?t it?
It was the usual pantomime after the game, us, the good guys, against the panto villains, first in Police uniforms who?d taunt as they took us onto the main road about how ?their lads? were gonna eat us to be replaced by folk in a different kind of uniform made up of various foreign sportswear manufacturers who would fully take advantage of the numbers and have us put in our place, but we were there for Wigan Athletic and we didn?t give a fcuk, ?.oh yes we did, ?..oh no we didn?t,? sorry!!!
By the time we got back to the station and the shift changover I had a footprint on the back of my jacket and to be honest when you looked at how many folk had made the trip I was quite relieved that that was all I had! And so to 1985/86, a four game Bolton season, yummy yummy! It was actually New Years Day 1986 before our paths crossed and what a way to see in the New Year! A break from the 1-0?s saw us win 2-1 at Burnden, in front of a higher than Burnden average 9,000, apart from at Wembley in the Freight Rover I hadn?t celebrated a final whistle with such vigour and joy, just punching the air shouting ?Get in yer bassstrurds!? With it being New Years Day I?d gone on me todd on the coach, gone in the seats and scrawled me name in the bogs then got a transfer onto the terrace, then I saw a lad who I?d worked with who?d come with his Dad in the car, anyroad, the Hogmanay Hangover was kicking in so I asked if I could cadge a lift back to Wigan with ?em, not fancying the coach trip sat next to someone who knew bloody everything about everything, I know it was only a short journey, but believe me the trip in was like being sat next to Bamber Gascoigne on speed! Sorted! A lift back, so after the game we moseyed back to where the car was parked just past the Dog Track, and I?m smiling a little bit too much, in fact I?m virtually skipping and all but singing in the street at the result and the fact that for the first time we?d played Bolton I?d come out unscathed, as we got to the car a mon says to me,
?Good result eh??,
?ragging Beltin!? says I, then THWACK!, the red ginger gave me one right on the ear , a proper old burner/stinger then ran off!
Happy New Fuckin? Year!! OK, so it wasn?t big or clever but it happened!
To be continued in story below