See a doctor has spoken out about the overuse of these permitted anti inflammatory medicines for injury treatment. Reckons health problem looming in future.

One former player said its very common.

I know we have a few posters connected with the game so what's the situation- is it common place?

Steroid injections used to be the problem, particularly into the knees Tommy Smith (ex-Liverpool for those not old enough) used to have them regularly - completely fucked his knees up

 

Basically, yes, NSAIDs have taken over - reduce inflammation and treat the pain - problem is it's simply masking the injury so ultimately worsens the injury over time. It's very common - pressure from the club on the doctor to get their players able to play, and/or pressure from the players who are scared of losing their place

I used to have an a six-monthly cortisone injection in my elbow. I think it hid the symptoms rather than cured them. Eventually I found a Bowen Practitioner which was the best £30 I ever spent.

What's a Bowen practioner and what do they do?

 

Any good for backs? Mine went into spasm about 4 days ago. Absolute fucking agony and the GP is refusing to prescribe diazepam to relax the muscles

Doctors think it's mumbo jumbo because it hasn't come from a medical book. It's basically a whole of body treatment.

When describing it in the past, I've likened it to imagining a diagram in a book of how muscles lie over bones and then more muscles lie over the first muscles. Well, a Bowen Practitioner kind of puts all those muscles in the right place.

OK. Cheers. I get that. Might give that a go

 

Recently learned about Langers Lines and why surgeons make incisions where they do. Makes similar sense

What's a Bowen practioner and what do they do?

 

Any good for backs? Mine went into spasm about 4 days ago. Absolute fucking agony and the GP is refusing to prescribe diazepam to relax the muscles

Osteopath, similar to what Micky said but they concentrate on the back, neck and shoulders. Not medically recognised but they'll sort you out. To echo, best £30-40 quid I've ever spent. I was having time off regularly because of my back, this fella had me back in work the next day. Got to a point now when I feel my backs about to go I go see him to prevent it. He was recommended off here, has clinics in bolton and waterfoot. Pm if you want his number, I'm sure he's a poster off here.

What's a Bowen practioner and what do they do?

 

Any good for backs? Mine went into spasm about 4 days ago. Absolute fucking agony and the GP is refusing to prescribe diazepam to relax the muscles

Codeine worked for me when I had a spasm.

The last time I slept on an air bed.

Osteopath, similar to what Micky said but they concentrate on the back, neck and shoulders. Not medically recognised but they'll sort you out. To echo, best £30-40 quid I've ever spent. I was having time off regularly because of my back, this fella had me back in work the next day. Got to a point now when I feel my backs about to go I go see him to prevent it. He was recommended off here, has clinics in bolton and waterfoot. Pm if you want his number, I'm sure he's a poster off here.

PM'ed you I think

Codeine worked for me when I had a spasm.

The last time I slept on an air bed.

Doesn't work for me. I tried to get diazepam and tramadol from both my GP and the local walk in centre and both refused despite the fact I only asked for a weeks worth. They gave me Zapain last time (codeine/paracetamol) and all it did was constipate me

But aren't these things merely masking the issues you have rather than fixing them?

The diazepam at a low dose acts as a muscle relaxant and stops the spasms. I know the issue. I tore three of the muscles that go down the side of my spine attaching to each vertebra, the big fan shaped muscle that goes from the centre of the spine to the pelvis and the deep muscle just above the back of the pelvis. According to the Physio they've "knotted" when they healed. Every now and then when I make a sudden movement those muscles especially the deep one spasm and continue to do so for a week or two because they are damaged. The diazepam is perfect as it relaxes them. Yeah the tramadol eases the pain but does mask it but fuck me it feels like someone is stabbing me so need summat so at times like this I don't give a shit even though I know it's wrong

Yes, something to relax the muscles.

Micky, that's how to doctor explained it it me- a muscle injury can then cause adjacent muscles to lock up in a spasm, so relaxing then is useful. Obviously need to sort out the initial damage too.

 

I've had two once on holiday and one in a woodyard loading my van.

Mancs sound much worse though.