Youri Djorkaeff

Bolty's getting angry and blaming the commies and spelling to win the joust. Jobs a goodun. A few have compared it to genocide, in some districts they were wiped out and bred out, its up there with the worst thats all im saying. I never said they were all wiped only said they were in Tasania. I agree with Carlos too, you shouldn't judge the past on modern values. Context of the time an all that, if i was alive 200 years ago i would have thought we were inferior and thus justified to conquer and kill in the name of the civilized world. All im arguing is that its important we learn from the past and don't commit the same atrocities. "useless bastards"... if i need treatment then you need to calm it down with the generalisations. All this us and them bullshit and its alright to call anyone whose asian a "paki." There's a reason drug and alcohol abuse might be higher amongst native populations in old colonies (although your exaggerations are a tad fucked,) recovery from such abuse doesn't happen overnight. Goodnight

Well at least your not denying these atrocities... Just seems a little fucked that your trying to justify them. The invasion of Australia hasn't exactly given me "my Britain." Rabbit Proof fence was based on a true story and was one of thousands of similar stories. If genocide fills you with patriotic pride then so be it. Rule Britannia

Jumping to conclusions again brother. I've been to Melbourne for a couple of weeks then Tasmania for another week. The whole population of Tasmanian Aboriginess was wiped out pretty quickly. I wouldn't say it was vast knowledge, everyone knows that what the Aborignees went through at the hands of colonist was horrible. Kidnapping children from families and breeding out the colour for one. You can't go on to argue that it was all justified because of the comfortable life most Australians now live. You could of had all the positive aspects of European influence without wiping out indigenous populations. Hence why they have been seeking justice in the courts over the past few decades. Smithy's ignorant idea of how the indigenous population lived doesn't help much either, you can't justify "genocide" with the development of a country. He's got a point in that drug and alcohol use are high amongst the aboriginees. As they are amongst N.A Indians and S.A Indians. If you went to Smithy's town, took away his land, wiped out his mates with disease then im sure you would find him down the pub drinkin his sorrows away in 20 years time. I'm not arguing we or any Australian should feel guilty about the past only that sick mistakes were made during these conquests. Glorfying these acts is bullshit and i'm glad we have now learn't from these mistakes.

This one of late has done ma heed in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPqr6B_zEY

Sorry mate, didn't mean to offend your new found paridise. I guess it's all worth it now you've got a cushty job and suburbian box Fuck the past ey

I think what we did in Australia would be up there with the worst.

Can't say i know many "lefties" who aren't aware of all this, but thanks for the reminder. Not sure what ya point is other than the world is a tad fucked. I was only arguing empire usually involves more attrocities than niceties, whichever nation decides to embark upon it. Our empire caused as much harm as any other but the difference is we put alot of that behind us before most other countries. And your right there are a selection of Islamic nations who still live in a medieval timewarp.

I only said for some of the atrocities, not all British influence was negative, India benfited from our influence. We aplogised to the Kenyas as during the 60s our soldiers were torturing men and women on a daily basis.

A wee verse from that song.. "The nations, not so blest as thee,Must, in their turns, to tyrants fall;" It's war glorifying bollocks." Wouldn't it be great if people could be proud of where they come from without thinking they were superior. How do you know you live a prouder existence that another bloke in Belgium? There are parts of this Islands history that make me proud and parts that make me ashamed. Nostalgic love of empire seems a little pointless to me. But if you want to fire guns into the sky whilst wearing a bearskin hat then be my guest

I bet your a closet Celt pretending not to give a fook when you will be home alone in your paddy guiness hat tomorow eve.

aye, twice yesterday.

Im a sucker for these kind of tournaments to. Im just as excited as i was last time round when England didn't qualify. Fuck all this tribal bullshit its a beautiful game and this is one of it's biggest events. Thought with less pressure on England we might have a chance but we just don't compare to the other big guns. 10/10 for excitement, 9/10 after the opening day. Got a fiver on holland, fiver on poland and fiver on portugal. 20-1 on portugal is pretty good odds at the moment.

Even if i did misunderstand Micky's comment you show exactly what i was getting at. I didn't know what the fook to do with my life back then so i volunteered at a couple of places and took some time to figure shit out. If "folk" on this site wouldn't have the balls to be interested in someones opinion because they took some time out of working then thats pretty depressing to be fair.

The Rodger Federer comment was a joke case you couldn't tell. Can i just say that i never based my opinion on the British Empire on George Orwell. They just gave me an idea of what life was like for most Brits back then. Whilst we were out conquering the world our own county wasn't exactly the pinacle of justice and equality. Britain's military might may been important for world history but that doesn't mean it was a good thing for world history. Anyhow I do love a good recommendation, i will give it a read.

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