January 19, 201016 yr Author The plans look quite good to me. Can't help think though that Bolton are missing a trick here whereby you could combine the train and bus stations fully. The bus station is a dump so I can understand making a new one and moving it near the train station but could they not build a fully integrated interchange rather than putting it next to the shitty rail station and adding a walkway? No doubt that walkway will attract loads of scrotes too? Ideally yes but then the whole bus station would have to be suspended over the train tracks and cost a fecking fortune, plus Network Rail own all the land around there and probably wouldn't allow it or charge a fecking fortune as they're a bunch of cunts.
January 19, 201016 yr which one? Sorry meant walkaway with the arch over it not footbridge and I would argue the train station needs doing up before the bus station but anything that improves the town is a good thing just aslong as it done for as little cost as possible and with the best people doing it.
January 19, 201016 yr Ideally yes but then the whole bus station would have to be suspended over the train tracks and cost a fecking fortune, plus Network Rail own all the land around there and probably wouldn't allow it or charge a fecking fortune as they're a bunch of cunts. Typical, a proper lasting solution that would attract visitors and investment isn't possible because it make too much sense. I wouldn't think it would cost that much more to build over the tracks, how many huge buildings have underground car parks, surely its the same principle? I know it would be a nightmare whilst it was being built (fuck knows what would happen to the trains ) but it would be a good move in the long term. Anyway, isn't Network Rail state owned now?
January 19, 201016 yr Author Typical, a proper lasting solution that would attract visitors and investment isn't possible because it make too much sense. I wouldn't think it would cost that much more to build over the tracks, how many huge buildings have underground car parks, surely its the same principle? I know it would be a nightmare whilst it was being built (fuck knows what would happen to the trains ) but it would be a good move in the long term. Anyway, isn't Network Rail state owned now? It's a damn site more complex than it should be, they are state owned but run as a private company witht he intention of making profit etc. So can be stubborn cunts when they want to be. Take Orlando Street bridge for example, they own the bridge and are responsable for the cost of improving it. The bridge is utterly shagged hense the weight restriction in place. but because the bridge will not fall down under it's own weight they will not fund the refurb of the bridge. It was the same problem on Newport Street (which i think is what Big Sharps is rambling on about) but the council managed to get a funding source together for it, but due to new rules brought in by network rail (or railtrack as it was at the time) the underside of any new bridge on a mainline had to be a certain height above track level which ruled out any form of bridge supported from below so the cheapest viable option was a single arch bridge. which is what got built.
January 19, 201016 yr It's a damn site more complex than it should be, they are state owned but run as a private company witht he intention of making profit etc. So can be stubborn cunts when they want to be. Take Orlando Street bridge for example, they own the bridge and are responsable for the cost of improving it. The bridge is utterly shagged hense the weight restriction in place. but because the bridge will not fall down under it's own weight they will not fund the refurb of the bridge. It was the same problem on Newport Street (which i think is what Big Sharps is rambling on about) but the council managed to get a funding source together for it, but due to new rules brought in by network rail (or railtrack as it was at the time) the underside of any new bridge on a mainline had to be a certain height above track level which ruled out any form of bridge supported from below so the cheapest viable option was a single arch bridge. which is what got built. Im guessing your work revolves around this issue or you have a fetish for guys in high visibility jackets who would be working on said job which is it?
January 19, 201016 yr Author Im guessing your work revolves around this issue you guess correct sort of. I've no say over what goes on, just a real dislike of the lack of facts given in any article on this subject by the likes of the Bolton News
January 19, 201016 yr Talk about arse about face way of running things. The thing is, the line from Manchester to Preston via Bolton is due to be converted to electric is it not? Therefore there is going to be fucking loads of disruption while this happens, why not kill 2 birds with one stone and build a new train/bus interchange at the same time? Trains on the bottom floor, buses above, maybe even offices or retail space included while we are at it?
January 19, 201016 yr Author Talk about arse about face way of running things. The thing is, the line from Manchester to Preston via Bolton is due to be converted to electric is it not? Therefore there is going to be fucking loads of disruption while this happens, why not kill 2 birds with one stone and build a new train/bus interchange at the same time? Trains on the bottom floor, buses above, maybe even offices or retail space included while we are at it? They're going into the new bus station as i said the main problem with your otherwise brilliant idea lies with Network Rail being a buch of cunts plus any future land sales etc as Network rail like to keep ownership of their land and GMPTE also like to have land ownership of any of their facilities
January 19, 201016 yr They're going into the new bus station as i said the main problem with your otherwise brilliant idea lies with Network Rail being a buch of cunts plus any future land sales etc as Network rail like to keep ownership of their land and GMPTE also like to have land ownership of any of their facilities Perhaps someone should persuade Network Rail to go into retail and build a combined shopping centre/railway station like there is in Wimbledon (and that has TfL involved in it too).
January 19, 201016 yr Perhaps someone should persuade Network Rail to go into retail and build a combined shopping centre/railway station like there is in Wimbledon (and that has TfL involved in it too). That would be a nice setup.
January 19, 201016 yr Author Perhaps someone should persuade Network Rail to go into retail and build a combined shopping centre/railway station like there is in Wimbledon (and that has TfL involved in it too). problem is TfL have a shit load more money than GMPTE. If the money being spent on crossrail (about 10 billion last i heard) was spread across the countrys next 10 biggest cities then plenty of places would be able to have rometly decent public transport systems. But London needs another trainline.
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