It's the only way we'll stay up. Unfortunately, Gartside is so pigheaded that he won't do the right thing. It's criminal what has happended to this club since Allardyce left: solid top-eight team to dire relegation hopefuls in less than 12 months. Outrageous.

when he came from Soton he was on the scrap heap, Sam made him half decent, point is Big Sam gets the best out of people, Megson doesn't.

 

 

I agree with that, Megson seems to de-motivate players

davies played much better yesterday than he has for a good few weeks.

 

fukc the manager, thats down to the player.

davies played much better yesterday than he has for a good few weeks.

 

fukc the manager, thats down to the player.

 

your explanation for Nolans poor form? bsa man mangement is badly missed

bsa man mangement is badly missed

Is this not a mute point?

Is this not a mute point?

I'd say it's a moot point, unless you're implying that Allardyce communicated in sign language. I'll get me coat.

your explanation for Nolans poor form? bsa man mangement is badly missed

 

allardyce was an exceptional man manager, he got alot out of distinctly average players.

 

ok, maybe megson cant do that, but that does not make him a bad person.

 

maybe megson would counteract that by buying players that wouldnt need an arm round the shoulder when the going got tough. steinsson and taylor certainly seem like that kind of player to me. not matter how shite they are playing they get thier head down and graft.

your explanation for Nolans poor form? bsa man mangement is badly missed

Are you seriously suggesting nolan has only been poor since fsa left?

I'd say it's a moot point, unless you're implying that Allardyce communicated in sign language. I'll get me coat.

Apologies. I'm hanging my head in shame.

I think the last time I saw Allardyce though I could well have used sign language towards him.

steinsson and taylor certainly seem like that kind of player to me. not matter how shite they are playing they get thier head down and graft.

 

I thought Taylor's head was down because he was totally and utterly fcuked, due to being an unfit, fat fcuker. You live and learn...

NO FINNNNN WAY CAN ALLARDYCE COME BACK

allardyce was an exceptional man manager, he got alot out of distinctly average players.

 

ok, maybe megson cant do that, but that does not make him a bad person.

 

maybe megson would counteract that by buying players that wouldnt need an arm round the shoulder when the going got tough. steinsson and taylor certainly seem like that kind of player to me. not matter how shite they are playing they get thier head down and graft.

 

I know a lot of nice people. Shite at their job but nevertheless nice people. When does being nice enter the equation?

 

I also know a lot of head down grafters and a lot of them play in Unibond and the like, not in the Premierleague. For gods sake these grafters are millionaires.

 

Megson cannot motivate, has obvious internal player issues, has made 2 shocking purhases, we cannot score, cannot win and people are saying he's a nice bloke and the players and grafters.

 

I really have heard it all now.

we werent a solid top 8 team in allardyces last 4 months.

 

 

I disagree, strongly. Terms like 'Top eight team' only make sense over the course of a full season.

 

We had bad spells under Allardyce before, really bad spells, they weren't indicative of a terminal decline.

 

You can't take a few results in isolation and say we weren't a top eight side, when in fact we had been for four years.

 

Even if we were on the slide, it shouldn't have come to this, and THAT was the point...

allardyce was an exceptional man manager, he got alot out of distinctly average players.

 

ok, maybe megson cant do that, but that does not make him a bad person.

 

maybe megson would counteract that by buying players that wouldnt need an arm round the shoulder when the going got tough. steinsson and taylor certainly seem like that kind of player to me. not matter how shite they are playing they get thier head down and graft.

 

Perm any one from hundreds of players in the championship that get their heads down and graft, this is exactly the type of player megson is comfortable with and bwfc have ended up with. But these do not have the class to cut it without the foreign quality around them.

 

They are playing shiite because the opposition is out classing them in the dept. that matters.

 

btw I am not a bad person either, but i reckon i could have done no worse than megson.

Edited March 23, 200818 yr by Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion

I disagree, strongly. Terms like 'Top eight team' only make sense over the course of a full season.

 

We had bad spells under Allardyce before, really bad spells, they weren't indicative of a terminal decline.

 

You can't take a few results in isolation and say we weren't a top eight side, when in fact we had been for four years.

 

Even if we were on the slide, it shouldn't have come to this, and THAT was the point...

And that's why I blame Allardyce

 

He didn't have the bottle to correct what seemed to be going downhill. He took the easy option, of taking Newcastle's millions (for him and new players), in the hope he could get to the next level for him.

 

He knew the restrictions at Bolton (not that bad, he spent ?8m on Anelka 6 months previously), but didn't want to have to battle again.

And that's why I blame Allardyce

 

He didn't have the bottle to correct what seemed to be going downhill. He took the easy option, of taking Newcastle's millions (for him and new players), in the hope he could get to the next level for him.

 

He knew the restrictions at Bolton (not that bad, he spent ?8m on Anelka 6 months previously), but didn't want to have to battle again.

 

IMO that was not the case!. He tried to keep a club on verge of breaking into the top 4 or winning a FA cup on course, but his bosses did not share the vision either because of internal feuds or personality clashes. He became disillusioned and left leaving the club in a very healthy position.

Edited March 23, 200818 yr by Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion

IMO he wanted more cash than the club felt it could afford

 

sams buys at newcastle don't support his opinion the management got it wrong

 

sam allardyce by the end was too big for us

IMO he wanted more cash than the club felt it could afford

 

sams buys at newcastle don't support his opinion the management got it wrong

 

sam allardyce by the end was too big for us

I'm sure he would agree!!!

sam allardyce by the end was too big for us

 

Yep, that's about the strength of it.

 

There again we've spent plenty this season (by the standards he'd been used to).

 

I don't disagree his time was up, but I think that on the pitch we were still useful enough. Whoever took over shouldn't have got us in this predicament.

Perm any one from hundreds of players in the championship that get their heads down and graft, this is exactly the type of player megson is comfortable with and bwfc have ended up with. But these do not have the class to cut it without the foreign quality around them.

 

Really? Because the same sort of 'grafters' are managing to cut it at Sunderland, Reading, Wigan, Boro, etc. Players who give their all aren't the problem. Those that think they're better than they are and are coasting through this season on past reputations, are the f**king problem.

Yep, that's about the strength of it.

 

There again we've spent plenty this season (by the standards he'd been used to).

 

I don't disagree his time was up, but I think that on the pitch we were still useful enough. Whoever took over shouldn't have got us in this predicament.

We averaged a point a game in the 2nd half of last season, the team was finished. It was relegation form and material. We needed fresh blood, teams had sussed us out, we were predictable and were mastered by lowly teams.

 

Allardyce was best placed to turn it around, knowing the place inside out (he created it). In a sense, he owed it to the club to turn it around, before leaving the club in a better (than a point agame) position. This season we just carried on where he left off, but without his insights.

 

Too big? Yes

 

Bottle gone? Yes

 

Cheat & liar? Yes

 

Great times for BW? Totally, the best in my years.

 

Forgiveable?

We averaged a point a game in the 2nd half of last season, the team was finished. It was relegation form and material. We needed fresh blood, teams had sussed us out, we were predictable and were mastered by lowly teams.

 

Allardyce was best placed to turn it around, knowing the place inside out (he created it). In a sense, he owed it to the club to turn it around, before leaving the club in a better (than a point agame) position. This season we just carried on where he left off, but without his insights.

 

Too big? Yes

 

Bottle gone? Yes

 

Cheat & liar? Yes

 

Great times for BW? Totally, the best in my years.

 

Forgiveable?

 

Some think the rot had set in back end of last season, some don't. I don't. We'll never know, and it's unprovable. I'm sure it hadn't reached the stage where we should be bottom three though.

 

When it all comes down to it, there's one glaring root of all these problems, and it's the appointment of Lee.

 

Lee himself did an appalling job. But I blame Gartside more for appointing him. His derogatory statements about Allardyce gave the game away, he was utterly complacent and thought he could appoint anyone, and with Garty's guidance they'd continue to be a top half side. With a bit of flair thrown in, because after all, it's that easy isn't it?

 

All things considered I think the club could do with a clearout from top to bottom. Certainly a change of direction.

 

It's just a shame we lurched for the change in direction when we didn't actually need one...

And that's why I blame Allardyce

 

He didn't have the bottle to correct what seemed to be going downhill. He took the easy option, of taking Newcastle's millions (for him and new players), in the hope he could get to the next level for him.

 

He knew the restrictions at Bolton (not that bad, he spent ?8m on Anelka 6 months previously), but didn't want to have to battle again.

 

how many ragging seasons did he have to keep battling for? he earnt the chance to have some money and we shat on him and he rightly though fcuk you and went! and ?8 million(which he had to beg and beg for) on Anelka is fcuk all, Megson comes in and has money available at the click of his fingers

Edited March 23, 200818 yr by YW

how many ragging seasons did he have to keep battling for? he earnt the chance to have some money and we shat on him and he rightly though fcuk you and went! and ?8 million(which he had to beg and beg for) on Anelka is fcuk all, Megson comes in and has money available at the click of his fingers

I fully understand how difficult it must have been for him.

 

But then, if you know the situation, why sign a 10-year contract?

how many ragging seasons did he have to keep battling for? he earnt the chance to have some money and we shat on him and he rightly though fcuk you and went! and ?8 million(which he had to beg and beg for) on Anelka is fcuk all, Megson comes in and has money available at the click of his fingers

 

Allardyce had money to spend at Newcastle. He signed a load of shite defenders plus Joey Barton, Mark Viduka and Alan Smith. Of those, only Smith has been a regular this season.

Maybe Megson will resign on Tuesday.......along with Gartside and other board members.

 

In my mind, it looks like Megson has no idea what to do, his body language looked like he has given up the ghost....i look at the fixtures left, and then at the result on tuesday, and I think most of us had us down on the predictor as a win against the massives, and I think Megson did aswell........perhaps we need to totally change the attack, we need to do something to freshen the team up......and I am talking about using Harsanyi, Wolfe and Sinclair for Taylor, Diouf and Davies, we are creating chances but cannot score, so perhaps some drastic changes what have we got to lose