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I'm not saying he's 'like' Davies, I'm saying he has the attributes we rate in Davies. The work rate, drive and running that we always raved about. He also lacks the technical attributes people moan that Davies doesn't have. Doyle is also unlike Davies, but people compare him to Davies due to work rate and willingness. A "guesser"......cute.

I meant amongst Bolton fans. I can say "it seems like almost nobody rates him" if you like, but "nobody" doesn't have to include everyone. It's like saying "I've packed everything".....you haven't literally packed everything there is. Context gives meaning. Let me say it another way. I am yet to hear from any Bolton fan who would see him as a positive signing and have heard many say they hope we don't want him.

It's interesting nobody rates the guy, when he has essentially the same attributes that everyone likes in KD. His work rate is phenomenal and he holds up the ball well. He even has enough of a leap on him for him to flick the ball on. He's not great in terms of touch and passing, but nor is KD. He's not got KD's power, but he's quicker. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he seems like the sort of player who is suited to do a specific 'job'; rather than just a great player. KD has been great for us because he does the job we need him to do; CMS may be a similar sort of player for whomever he signs for.

What about Orient?

Burnley and Cardiff.

I've no idea which one is right, to be honest. He could use a loan in a higher league, which he had with Coventry until he got injured.

Fair enough. I can only say that I've seen him a few times, including going to see him play for Swindon, and that's my view of him. I've seen him smash in a few good goals and he's been on Sky before this season and with Swindon before that, I've just taken the time to watch him. I just don't think he can be written off as not good enough. We've sent him on loan 3 times. Twice he's done extremely well and once he got injured. I'm not sure how much more can be expected of the lad thus far. A Championship loan next season would be a good measure of the kid.

Yeah Rembrandt, I'm a bit confused by that. It's only our site that has that as his birthday (you'd assume we'd know, obviously), others have him a year younger. Plus he's announced as 19 before the game today and was interviewed a few weeks back and the guy said "you're only 19, what are your ambitions?" (or something along those lines) and he didn't correct the guy. I had assumed our dob was a typo.

So hang on, Garrp. Someone watches a player play some games, then has a view on that player, but that is somehow not permissible to you? Do you want to run the rationale for that one by me? How else is someone supposed to make a judgement on a player?

Or there's the two he smashed in the other week, although the keeper made an error on one. Just because you have no idea what you're talking about, doesn't mean other people don't.

And the rest of his time there and at Swindon. Amazing isn't it? You watch a player play, and then you can say things about how they play........it's like some kind of magic.

Ward is 19. I'd be amazed if he was good enough for the Prem at that age. He has a bit of pace, a bit of skill and a bit of power; but offers nothing special in any of those areas. He has a terrific shot on him and can put in a decent ball. He also has good control on his headers and good work rate. He's actually a similar player to Davies when he was at Chesterfield. He's not a world beater, but he's a better player than Jon Walters was at his age; and a few have said they'd have him off Stoke.

It sounds like his wages would mean we'd need to see him as vital to the side for the next few seasons, if we invested in him.

Good point.

We didn't get 34 points though, did we?