Eddie Howe ta

DNA and a style of play is definitely something we don't really have.

But in this instance for me, TT had the opportunity to go for the jugular and didn't. It wasn't really anything to do with the players. He made a very poor decision tactically and that's what flipped the game.

1 hour ago, bwfc6ix said:

DNA and a style of play is definitely something we don't really have.

But in this instance for me, TT had the opportunity to go for the jugular and didn't. It wasn't really anything to do with the players. He made a very poor decision tactically and that's what flipped the game.

Can't disagree. Carbon copy of what Southgate did in the Euro final against Italy in a way.

Evatt.

Imagine Evattball with marginally competent players & a couple of stars.

Foden and Palmer would've been out of position or sat on the bench watching Bellingham be far better than them. TAA would've been helpful to have but the lack of backup right back didn't hinder us at crunch time.

Simply put Tuchel went too defensive too early and failed to change it when Argentina equalised. Making the correct decisions in those moments are why he's one of the highest paid international managers around and he fucked it up.

Can't fault the players for this it's all on Tuchel

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Foden and Palmer would've been out of position or sat on the bench watching Bellingham be far better than them. TAA would've been helpful to have but the lack of backup right back didn't hinder us at crunch time.

Simply put Tuchel went too defensive too early and failed to change it when Argentina equalised. Making the correct decisions in those moments are why he's one of the highest paid international managers around and he fucked it up.

Can't fault the players for this it's all on Tuchel

Yeah I agree here. I don't think theres a real argument for leaving them at home. With the way TT set up in those last 30 mins, they wouldnt have had any impact in that moment.

Saka/Rashford on the bench were the pacey players that were needed.

37 minutes ago, bwfc6ix said:

Yeah I agree here. I don't think theres a real argument for leaving them at home. With the way TT set up in those last 30 mins, they wouldnt have had any impact in that moment.

Saka/Rashford on the bench were the pacey players that were needed.

Palmer had been shit for weeks at Chelsea

Foden hardly does anything for England

Think hindsight is deciding who should have gone

12 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Palmer had been shit for weeks at Chelsea

Foden hardly does anything for England

Think hindsight is deciding who should have gone

I said it at the time but I wasn't too upset at them two being left out. Gibbs-White was the one for me that I was more surprised about. As you say, Palmer and Foden have done nothing for 95% of the season.

There was no reason that the players he had at his disposal couldn't have won that game on Wednesday.

11 hours ago, gonzo said:

He's blaming England's DNA and lack of passers etc.

He left them all at home the massive fucking weirdo.

He opted for a team of attacking wingers that can barely pass the ball. 4 of the fucking things.

If he wanted ball players he had Palmer Foden and Trent all sat at home who can pass the ball better than any of our squad combined.

What a deluded wanker. Sack him now.

Wharton was the quick passing midfielder we've missed the whole tournament. But Henderson has vibes or something so it's ok..

11 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Sticking up for tuchel a touch on one tiny detail it wasn't his squad selection that let him down it was the in game management.

At 1-1 Bellingham broke away and had no cunt up there with him to pass to at that point I knew we'd fucked it.

I've had a think about it since the loss and think it was a bit of both.

In game management was abysmal and main cause of the loss. It was like watching Nuneaton Town if they go 1 nil up at Man City away in the cup. He just gave up any pretence of trying to play and loaded the defence to try to last for 40+ mins.

But I think the squad selection may have played a part here as he clearly didn't like the look of his back up midfield and attacking options. If he had Foden, Palmer, Wharton in his squad would he have made better subs?

Either way it's all on Tuchel. Needs sacking immediately

11 hours ago, royal white said:

There’s not many English managers to go for. To be honest the next manager could be the head of the Taliban for all I care as long as he brings it home. Pep and Klopp would obviously be a good shout but it looks like we are stuck with him for the next tournament.

Moving away from the managers and how kids are coached over here I read this comment last night and I agree with it massively

“Until we learn in academy football we should be teaching technical players to be great athletes and not athletes to be great footballers we will always fall short,

If you look at Spain and Argentina, where are the big strong athletes who can run and run and run”

At a broad level I agree with this. We prioritise size over skill throughout the whole youth system.

However, at the very top level i.e. national squad, our squad was more than a match for Argentina, and used well should have won.

Agree we should look at Spain and France for how they've created such a wide pool of elite players