Yes, but many on here said we should have signed them, along with Louis Saha!

Newcastle have sold Milner,Dyer,Luque,Parker and Rozenhal for a combined ?29.9 million in Ashleys time

Not strictly true.

 

Ashley paid for Rozenhal and then sold him for the same ?2.9m fee, so he doesn't count.

Milner, Dyer and Parker went for ?17m.

Luque for around ?4m!

So Surely with that appalling squad, they are NOT a good investment.

 

Compare that squad to Evertons, which only needs tweaking, not a complete refurbishment......which can be done on the ground!!!

Good article in the times today which should get the geordie idiots foaming at the mouth.

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle4761813.ece

 

Here is a message for the whining, whingeing, self-pitying, self-indulgent and deluded fans on Tyneside, otherwise known as the Toon Army: Kevin Keegan is not the Messiah; Alan Shearer is not an aspect of the trinity; Mike Ashley is not the Devil; Tony Jimenez is not on the secret payroll of Sunderland; and Dennis Wise is not an evil dwarf.

 

Newcastle United are not a ?massive? club and do not have a divine right to remain in the Premier League; St James' Park is not the world's greatest stadium; and, in case you were wondering, your team will not break into the top four any time soon, with or without Ashley, Keegan, Wise or any of the other men who are heroes, villains and sometimes both in the febrile imaginations of the world's most whimsical supporters.

 

Oh, and you are not the most loyal, valiant and wonderfully dependable fans on the planet. Check out the attendances when Newcastle were languishing in the second division at the start of the 1990s and you will get the measure of the myth that has clung to the black-and-white-shirted men and women for far too long. That's right, they were often much fewer than 20,000 and with the Gallowgate end partially deserted. Is that what you call loyalty?

 

The banners castigating Ashley for being a southerner during Saturday's comically self-important protest were the final straw for many of us who have long endured the tedious soap opera on Tyneside. That and the ill-informed, conspiracy-laden and melodramatic messages posted on the dozens of message boards that these fans seem to spend their lives reading.

 

Where is the gallows humour, the sense of irony, the satirical edge? Where is the old-fashioned self-mockery that characterises most other groups of English football fans when their team are having a bad time of it?

 

The only way that Newcastle fans are ever going to be truly happy is when they have formed a collective to buy the club and have made a pig's ear, as they inevitably would, of a kind that would make Freddy Shepherd's last remaining strands stand on end. When they have rehired Keegan to manage the team, Shearer to be his assistant and the ghost of Jackie Milburn to do the scouting. When they have got control of the club and discovered that their own volatility makes it practically ungovernable.

 

Sure, passion and commitment are great things and we all know that in a big city with only one football club, there is bound to be a siege mentality and more than a little self-absorption. But many Newcastle fans have turned navel-gazing into an art form. They need to get out more and discover that their beloved club, who have not won a trophy for decades, are virtually unknown beyond these shores. They need a little perspective, not least in terms that passion does not equate to knowledge, nor does enthusiasm equate to expertise on how to run a football club.

 

This is a group of fans who agitated for the sacking of Sam Allardyce after only six months because the football was not pretty enough, even though he had put in place a much-needed science support structure and cleared out the dead wood from the Shepherd era. These are fans who want nothing to do with Ashley because he is from ?down South? and because he insisted on a continental scouting system to support a manger who, by his own admission, had not attended a live match for three years and so was the last person who could have done the scouting job.

 

Sure, mistakes were made by Ashley, not least in the appointment of Keegan - something that was bound to end in tears - and in spheres of responsibility not being properly spelt out to the main protagonists. But let's get real. The fundamental problem with Newcastle is no longer the corporate management, but those who used to be described as the club's greatest assets: the fans - or at least those who are making all the noise at present.

That is superb....and spot on!

So Surely with that appalling squad, they are NOT a good investment.

 

Compare that squad to Evertons, which only needs tweaking, not a complete refurbishment......which can be done on the ground!!!

 

Which ground?

i heard ashley bought the club without looking at the books so was a bit surprised to find how much they were actually in debt

Which ground?

 

 

Whatever the potential New Owners wanted....?200 Million new ground.....or a ?200 Million re-developed Goodison.

 

Either way, with the cost of the Club, and the relatively low (less that ?100 Mil) on the team. Its sill less than what Newcastle are for sale for!!

Good article in the times today which should get the geordie idiots foaming at the mouth.

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle4761813.ece

 

 

Hmm, interesting, but devalued by the fact it was written by Matthew Syed: former international table-tennis player and failed Labour candidate.

He urged Man United to sack Ferguson 2 or 3 yrs ago, because he was clueless!

But he's still reet!

 

Did you see what Ashley has done at Newcastle ??

 

Lowerd Ticket Prices, free drink for every season ticket holder, every game, reduced Merchandise prices.

 

The one thing he did wrong, before hiring Keegan, is he Shut out the Local Rag up their.....big Mistake, they have run a "Get Ashley Out" petition ever since he did it,

so the geordies already had theor backs up....then he hired Keegan to get them back on side.

 

Ashely has done nothing wrong.

.

 

Ashely has done nothing wrong.

 

Other than perpetuating crimes against fashion?

Whats wrong with bright orange Donnay trackie bottoms?

 

Whats wrong with bright orange Donnay trackie bottoms?

 

 

Nothing if you're a geordie.

Whats wrong with bright orange Donnay trackie bottoms?

 

 

 

They must be worn with umbro trainers though or they'll look shite!

Other than perpetuating crimes against fashion?

 

 

Hey.... I saw your Shirts in Tenerife.........::...!!!!

They must be worn with umbro trainers though or they'll look shite!

 

And white Donnay socks, 5 pairs for a quid

Hey.... I saw your Shirts in Tenerife.........::::...!!!!

 

Times have changed, since I found out I was colour blind!

 

I no longer choose my own clothes!

Times have changed, since I found out I was colour blind!

 

I no longer choose my own clothes!

 

 

Actually, looking at some of the photo's, I don't think i am in a position to comment!!!!

Actually, looking at some of the photo's, I don't think i am in a position to comment!!!!

 

I was too polite to say!

I was too polite to say!

 

 

Your such a Gent!

Whatever the potential New Owners wanted....?200 Million new ground.....or a ?200 Million re-developed Goodison.

 

Either way, with the cost of the Club, and the relatively low (less that ?100 Mil) on the team. Its sill less than what Newcastle are for sale for!!

 

Everton don't have the fan base Newcastle do. So you need to factor in a lot of money for that.

I think the poisoned porno dwarf speaks a modicum of sense:

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4152957,00.html

Birmingham City co-owner David Sullivan feels sympathy for Mike Ashley, but has described his Newcastle counterpart as 'naive'.

Magpies owner Ashley came in for heavy criticism in the wake of manager Kevin Keegan's shock resignation and fans staged angry protests during Saturday's home defeat to Hull City.

Businessman Ashley has since announced that he is looking to sell Newcastle after listening to the complaints of the Toon Army.

And Sullivan, who suffered the brunt of Birmingham supporters' unrest when the Blues were relegated from the Premier League last season, sympathises with Ashley.

"The demands of fans can have a wearing effect," said Sullivan in the Daily Mirror.

Ashley has defended his role in the exit of Keegan, who left following restricted activity in the summer transfer market, and claims to have spent ?110million in a bid to manage the club's debts.

Sullivan has praised Ashley's business approach in the North East, but he believes the Newcastle owner has suffered from a lack of football knowledge.

"All Mike Ashley has done is throw money at the club, tried to balance the books and been castigated for it," added Sullivan.

"He's maybe a bit naive and not a football person, but he is not a mug.

"He took on the club as a business with massive debts and pumped in a lot of money to keep Newcastle going, but that is not sustainable.

"And though I think in England you have to let the manager manage, Kevin Keegan's track record is not that good."

I wouldn't let keegan run a bath, never mind a multi-million pound business.

Everton don't have the fan base Newcastle do. So you need to factor in a lot of money for that.

 

 

I think you will find that we do.

 

Newcastle as a population is about half the size of Liverpool.

 

 

Everton have a fanbase in the region of 750,000 to 1 Million UK wide, similar to the likes of Newcastle, City, Spurs and Villa.

 

 

Either way, fans base will have very very little to do with it.

 

Why have City been taken over twice in 18 months ?? Is it becaue of their MASSIVE fanbase, as that no bigger than Everton's.