What a load of fucking bollocks.

Looked in to this as our fixed price deal was coming to an end.

Looks like a no brainer, 8p kw/h during the night. But then they absolutely bend you over during the day with 35p kw/h

Ran all my numbers and even with 15k miles a year (which is way more than we'll do) couldn't make it to pay.

Ran it through chatgpt for a laugh. Told me it would work if I boiled my kettle and cooked all my food after midnight. Fucking AI

45 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

What a load of fucking bollocks.

Looked in to this as our fixed price deal was coming to an end.

Looks like a no brainer, 8p kw/h during the night. But then they absolutely bend you over during the day with 35p kw/h

Ran all my numbers and even with 15k miles a year (which is way more than we'll do) couldn't make it to pay.

Ran it through chatgpt for a laugh. Told me it would work if I boiled my kettle and cooked all my food after midnight. Fucking AI

I'm so glad I don't drive anymore

I’ve got a plugin hybrid and Mrs has full EV

Can’t remember the numbers I got quoted but came to the same conclusion

At least one of us is WFH every day so the daytime costs would have been enormous

Just chose decent standard tariff

40 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

I’ve got a plugin hybrid and Mrs has full EV

Can’t remember the numbers I got quoted but came to the same conclusion

At least one of us is WFH every day so the daytime costs would have been enormous

Just chose decent standard tariff

Exactly the same situation as us.

14 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Exactly the same situation as us.

Currently with E-on and get these offers so just stick one of the cars on charge and collect the rebate. Worked out it costs about £4 to charge mine for about 40 miles of battery. Had up to £3.50 rebate on their most generous offer

I’ll give that a look. Ta. 👍

I pay around 35p/kwh for leccy anyway.

If I was to go on an ev rate, then the day time rate would be higher!

On the face of it, that doesn't sound too bad!

I don't use an ev set up though, as my mileage is bugger all.

Just checked again- got it wrong, around 22p per khr.

Bastard standing charge is the twatty bit.

Who are you with Mick?

I've just reviewed and renewed with octopus.

New 12 month fixed tariff has seen electricity go up 2.8p/kwh, but standing charge fall by a similar amount.

Likewise with gas- unit price increased by standing charge fell.

God knows why, but I've snapped their hands off, given what's been happening in the world.

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Who are you with Mick?

I've just reviewed and renewed with octopus.

New 12 month fixed tariff has seen electricity go up 2.8p/kwh, but standing charge fall by a similar amount.

Likewise with gas- unit price increased by standing charge fell.

God knows why, but I've snapped their hands off, given what's been happening in the world.

We were with octopus. Just gone to Fuze.

I'm octopus agile, when is cheap, or free (like it is from 12:00 to 14:00 today) I charge the car and also top up my batteries.

I've found this tariff by far the cheapest, but it probably only really works if you have some level of battery storage

Do you have solar panels too?

I’m on Eon wife’s car only does about 4k a year charge it once a week didn’t bother changing the tariff not noticed any difference with the bill so doesn’t seem worth the bother .

Just tried to charge it at some pod point charger at some retail park in Middlesbrough slow as fuck be there till midnight rate it was putting it in had to put credit on there app before using it so that will be on there for ever and a day won’t be using pod point again

I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go. Full EV and paying about the same as I did before I had the EV car. So all my car fuel is "free". I do about 10k a year.

If they have "spare" electricity in the daytime, it charges the car at that time (as long as it's plugged in obviously) and the rest of the electric in your house is charged at the 8p per KWH at the same time. Yesterday presumably because there was massive surplus's of solar power it charged between 1700-22.00. Still got cheap house electric overnight for the 6 hours as well. We just put the dishwasher on as we go to bed or on the timer, same with the washing machine.

Edited Sunday at 16:432 days by TrickyTrotter

3 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go. Full EV and paying about the same as I did before I had the EV car. So all my car fuel is "free". I do about 10k a year.

If they have "spare" electricity in the daytime, it charges the car at that time (as long as it's plugged in obviously) and the rest of the electric in your house is charged at the 8p per KWH at the same time. Yesterday presumably because there was massive surplus's of solar power it charged between 1700-22.00. Still got cheap house electric overnight for the 6 hours as well. We just put the dishwasher on as we go to bed or on the timer, same with the washing machine.

Bloody hell. This. Word for word.

In the summer I can do 5 days commute on one charge so literally costs me about £4.50 for the full week rather than the £30 it cost in petrol. Big chunk of savings that pays towards the car loan each month.

39 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Bloody hell. This. Word for word.

In the summer I can do 5 days commute on one charge so literally costs me about £4.50 for the full week rather than the £30 it cost in petrol. Big chunk of savings that pays towards the car loan each month.

This is the point I made years ago about being able to afford an EV.

Folk not understanding that the fuel savings compensate for extra cost.

Maintenance also much cheaper.

Had mine 5 years now, and the battery still charges to 90% of its original level, which it has done pretty much from a few months- the slight drop in capacity seemed to happen early on, and hasn't dropped since.

Also charges pretty much to the same level in winter.

Latest research says batteries will last far longer than initial, conservative estimates.

5 hours ago, Farnywhite said:

I’m on Eon wife’s car only does about 4k a year charge it once a week didn’t bother changing the tariff not noticed any difference with the bill so doesn’t seem worth the bother .

Just tried to charge it at some pod point charger at some retail park in Middlesbrough slow as fuck be there till midnight rate it was putting it in had to put credit on there app before using it so that will be on there for ever and a day won’t be using pod point again

Just a "low power" charger- maybe an 11kv job.

Not necessarily a fault, or a bad manufacturer, just a slower charger. You should find it cheaper per kwh than a fast one too.

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This is the point I made years ago about being able to afford an EV.

Folk not understanding that the fuel savings compensate for extra cost.

Maintenance also much cheaper.

Had mine 5 years now, and the battery still charges to 90% of its original level, which it has done pretty much from a few months- the slight drop in capacity seemed to happen early on, and hasn't dropped since.

Also charges pretty much to the same level in winter.

Latest research says batteries will last far longer than initial, conservative estimates.

I’ve saved a fortune on my plug-in. Last 3 cars have been mid-sized SUVs. Gone from petrol to self-charging to plug in. Saved a fortune on BIK as it’s a company car but fuel costs are so far down it’s incredible

Another thing I’ve noticed is when I charge the car it say I’ve got 43 miles battery. From here and back to my mums in Bolton is 38 miles. Used to get about 33 miles. I now get the full trip with a couple of miles to spare. Seems like the battery has improved with age?

On 21/06/2026 at 04:31, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Do you have solar panels too?

Yes

8 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

I’ve saved a fortune on my plug-in. Last 3 cars have been mid-sized SUVs. Gone from petrol to self-charging to plug in. Saved a fortune on BIK as it’s a company car but fuel costs are so far down it’s incredible

Another thing I’ve noticed is when I charge the car it say I’ve got 43 miles battery. From here and back to my mums in Bolton is 38 miles. Used to get about 33 miles. I now get the full trip with a couple of miles to spare. Seems like the battery has improved with age?

Depends on the time of year as much as anything. Range says 220 on ours but it’s nearer to 180 with motorway driving. Did Burton and back no problem on a nice day, but when it was colder we had to charge by Keele on the way back!

Air con doesn't use as much power as a heater.

Next time round, I'll make sure the vehicle has a heat pump instead of a normal heater.

I’ve got a heat pump. Not sure what difference it makes, a few miles per kWh I guess.

Wet roads as well as cold weather impacts mine, the friction I presume. But did manage a 330 mile trip to Cornwall last December on Boxing Day with one 20 min charge at Michaelwood and arrived with plenty of miles/kwh for the next day.

Cold weather will purely from using the heater/blowers and wipers.

I once had to do a course about driving for efficiency, in a mondeo. Apparently, I'm naturally geared that way, nevertheless with the heater and blowers on, on a cold wet day, the fuel efficiency dropped quite a bit, irrespective of driving style.

Not just evs that suffer.

Talking of EVs, I'm in China at the minute, and we stopped off at a roadside charger....they're all Government subsidised here (so I'm informed) it costs next to fuck all to use them. Fast charging up to 500km in about 15 minutes, for well under $2, No wonder about 50% of the cars here are EV - our "public" chargers are a fucking rip off, some up at well over 60p/KWh, which might well put people off if they can't charge at home

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

Talking of EVs, I'm in China at the minute, and we stopped off at a roadside charger....they're all Government subsidised here (so I'm informed) it costs next to fuck all to use them. Fast charging up to 500km in about 15 minutes, for well under $2, No wonder about 50% of the cars here are EV - our "public" chargers are a fucking rip off, some up at well over 60p/KWh, which might well put people off if they can't charge at home

I suppose the subsidy helps there though.

Ours aren't, and without doubt they're a bit of a rip off.

I understand that these high powered jobs will cost more, and need better supply, which all needs paying for, but if prices are too high then folk will avoid them.

If time permits, folk should use the lower power ones.

5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If time permits, folk should use the lower power ones.

Aye, but the one thing most folk don't have is time...... The superchargers are amazing (both here and there) no fucker wants to plug into an 11KWh system when they're out and about, we need 400KWh+ - although, as you point out, our infrastructure isn't up to it